NBA Season 2022-23

[celticsclay]

Lebron is now 4th all time in assists.  He entered the Knicks game 7 behind Mark Jackson and 8 behind Steve Nash.  He ended up with 11 and now has 10,338.  Paul currently has 11,246, Kidd is at 12,091, and Stockton is a basically unreachable (for probably everyone) at 15,806. 

Stockton also has nearly 600 more steals than anyone else (3,265 to Kidd's 2,684) and is about 800 ahead of Paul who is in 4th at 2,496.  Lebron is 10th in those at 2,175, moving ahead of Hakeem earlier this year (he could pass Drexler for 9th later this year).  Speaking of Hakeem, he is the official block leader with 3,830, Dikembe is 2nd at 3,289.  Of course everyone knows that Wilt would be 1st and Bill would be 2nd both well ahead of Hakeem.  That said, I'm not sure anyone will come all that close to Hakeem, especially with all of the outside shooting.  Duncan ended up in 6th at 3,020.  Ibaka is the highest active player in 29th place with 1,759.  Lopez is next in 32nd with 1,651.  For rebounds, Wilt has over 2,300 more than Bill who himself has nearly 4,000 more than Moses (and that includes his ABA numbers).  Dwight made it up to 11th, but he is nearly 10,000 behind Wilt. 

I mention this because, Lebron passing Kareem next week might be the last time anyone posting on here sees one of the big 5 records fall, especially if Lebron really does play several more seasons.  You can never say never, but the all time leaders are all going to end up with such a huge gap to even 2nd place, I really don't know if they will fall ever and almost certainly won't in my lifetime.

Mo, I know you have no love lost for me but you really should make your own Lebron fan blog. This stuff doesn’t belong on a Celtics blog. I’m honestly surprised how far the mods have let you go with this on a Celtics fan forum

I'm surprised how far the mods let you go with yur constant digs and disses of Moranis' opinions. Last thing we need is to return to the days of hypersensativity and banning those that we disagree with.

Do your actions fall under the rule of questioning fanhood?

What rule has Moranis broken?

To be fair, Moranis certainly does break some of the rules here including the past bumping his own threads on Lebron and making bad faith arguments. It’s also extremely unclear to me how you interpretted me pointing out his Lebron fan hood is question his fan hood. He himself has regularly admitted he is a Lebron fan. Maybe leave being a mod up to the mods.  what Roy said is actually extremely well stated and is generally how I feel. Will just do a better job not responding when the material becomes extremely grating.

[Vermont Green]

Lebron is now 4th all time in assists.  He entered the Knicks game 7 behind Mark Jackson and 8 behind Steve Nash.  He ended up with 11 and now has 10,338.  Paul currently has 11,246, Kidd is at 12,091, and Stockton is a basically unreachable (for probably everyone) at 15,806. 

Stockton also has nearly 600 more steals than anyone else (3,265 to Kidd's 2,684) and is about 800 ahead of Paul who is in 4th at 2,496.  Lebron is 10th in those at 2,175, moving ahead of Hakeem earlier this year (he could pass Drexler for 9th later this year).  Speaking of Hakeem, he is the official block leader with 3,830, Dikembe is 2nd at 3,289.  Of course everyone knows that Wilt would be 1st and Bill would be 2nd both well ahead of Hakeem.  That said, I'm not sure anyone will come all that close to Hakeem, especially with all of the outside shooting.  Duncan ended up in 6th at 3,020.  Ibaka is the highest active player in 29th place with 1,759.  Lopez is next in 32nd with 1,651.  For rebounds, Wilt has over 2,300 more than Bill who himself has nearly 4,000 more than Moses (and that includes his ABA numbers).  Dwight made it up to 11th, but he is nearly 10,000 behind Wilt. 

I mention this because, Lebron passing Kareem next week might be the last time anyone posting on here sees one of the big 5 records fall, especially if Lebron really does play several more seasons.  You can never say never, but the all time leaders are all going to end up with such a huge gap to even 2nd place, I really don't know if they will fall ever and almost certainly won't in my lifetime.

Mo, I know you have no love lost for me but you really should make your own Lebron fan blog. This stuff doesn’t belong on a Celtics blog. I’m honestly surprised how far the mods have let you go with this on a Celtics fan forum

I'm surprised how far the mods let you go with yur constant digs and disses of Moranis' opinions. Last thing we need is to return to the days of hypersensativity and banning those that we disagree with.

Do your actions fall under the rule of questioning fanhood?

What rule has Moranis broken?

FWIW, I am fine with Moranis's comments on LeBron.  I am absolutely a Celtics fan first and foremost but I am also a basketball fan (probably most others here are as well).  I wholly appreciate what LeBron has done/is doing (on the court, not always otherwise) and have no issue at all with someone posting about it.  Basketball fans should be debating/discussing where LeBron fits in or ranks amongst the greatest ever.

[mobilija]

Lebron is now 4th all time in assists.  He entered the Knicks game 7 behind Mark Jackson and 8 behind Steve Nash.  He ended up with 11 and now has 10,338.  Paul currently has 11,246, Kidd is at 12,091, and Stockton is a basically unreachable (for probably everyone) at 15,806. 

Stockton also has nearly 600 more steals than anyone else (3,265 to Kidd's 2,684) and is about 800 ahead of Paul who is in 4th at 2,496.  Lebron is 10th in those at 2,175, moving ahead of Hakeem earlier this year (he could pass Drexler for 9th later this year).  Speaking of Hakeem, he is the official block leader with 3,830, Dikembe is 2nd at 3,289.  Of course everyone knows that Wilt would be 1st and Bill would be 2nd both well ahead of Hakeem.  That said, I'm not sure anyone will come all that close to Hakeem, especially with all of the outside shooting.  Duncan ended up in 6th at 3,020.  Ibaka is the highest active player in 29th place with 1,759.  Lopez is next in 32nd with 1,651.  For rebounds, Wilt has over 2,300 more than Bill who himself has nearly 4,000 more than Moses (and that includes his ABA numbers).  Dwight made it up to 11th, but he is nearly 10,000 behind Wilt. 

I mention this because, Lebron passing Kareem next week might be the last time anyone posting on here sees one of the big 5 records fall, especially if Lebron really does play several more seasons.  You can never say never, but the all time leaders are all going to end up with such a huge gap to even 2nd place, I really don't know if they will fall ever and almost certainly won't in my lifetime.

Mo, I know you have no love lost for me but you really should make your own Lebron fan blog. This stuff doesn’t belong on a Celtics blog. I’m honestly surprised how far the mods have let you go with this on a Celtics fan forum

I'm surprised how far the mods let you go with yur constant digs and disses of Moranis' opinions. Last thing we need is to return to the days of hypersensativity and banning those that we disagree with.

Do your actions fall under the rule of questioning fanhood?

What rule has Moranis broken?

To be fair, Moranis certainly does break some of the rules here including the past bumping his own threads on Lebron and making bad faith arguments. It’s also extremely unclear to me how you interpretted me pointing out his Lebron fan hood is question his fan hood. He himself has regularly admitted he is a Lebron fan. Maybe leave being a mod up to the mods.  what Roy said is actually extremely well stated and is generally how I feel. Will just do a better job not responding when the material becomes extremely grating.

Bumping your own threads and making bad faith arguments is against the rules? News to me, good bye to half the blog I guess...

Attacking a poster because he supports a player that has been a thorn in the Celtics side is a direct questioning of whether that poster likes said player or the Celtics better. Explanation clearer? Prolly wouldn't hold up in a court of law but there is my interpretation...

Maybe leave being a mod up to the mods....hahaha, kettle calling pot black much? ie u brought up mods getting involved first, thats pretty much which triggered my response. I have a sore spot about calling for mods/calling for bans when people disagree, esp not in the CE forum.

I'm sure thats enuff of this. But have ur say if u need to, I've had mine. Peace to you Clay and TP for no bad blood!

[Moranis]

Wizards and Pistons game is postponed as the ice storm in Dallas prevented the Pistons from returning home in time to play tonight. 

[gouki88]

Speaking of following players from other teams...

Has anybody checked out how dominant Jokic has been lately?  Like, he's always elite, but in January he was putting up some of the most impressive numbers I can recall:

January:  24.0 points / 11.6 rebounds / 11.3 assists / 67.7% FG% / 53.8% 3PT% / 89.7% FT% / .760 TS%

It's the efficiency that is startlingly good.

Mindbogglingly efficient. It's quite outrageous that he can seemingly just do as he pleases

[slamtheking]

Speaking of following players from other teams...

Has anybody checked out how dominant Jokic has been lately?  Like, he's always elite, but in January he was putting up some of the most impressive numbers I can recall:

January:  24.0 points / 11.6 rebounds / 11.3 assists / 67.7% FG% / 53.8% 3PT% / 89.7% FT% / .760 TS%

It's the efficiency that is startlingly good.

Mindbogglingly efficient. It's quite outrageous that he can seemingly just do as he pleases

not to take away from his greatness as a player in this era but he certainly enjoys the benefit of playing against the weakest generation of centers that I can remember. 

[jpotter33]

Speaking of following players from other teams...

Has anybody checked out how dominant Jokic has been lately?  Like, he's always elite, but in January he was putting up some of the most impressive numbers I can recall:

January:  24.0 points / 11.6 rebounds / 11.3 assists / 67.7% FG% / 53.8% 3PT% / 89.7% FT% / .760 TS%

It's the efficiency that is startlingly good.

Mindbogglingly efficient. It's quite outrageous that he can seemingly just do as he pleases

not to take away from his greatness as a player in this era but he certainly enjoys the benefit of playing against the weakest generation of centers that I can remember.

Agreed.

Additionally, he gets away with being a subpar defender in this era where that wouldn't be the case in eras past. When you watch him, he's probably worse than Luka defensively. Can't stay in front of anyone, and the only reason he has any chance defensively is due to his size.

I think teams will really expose him in the playoffs in the high PnR, and Denver isn't good enough defensively to cover for it. He's about as good as they get offensively and is super efficient, but I don't know how well his game transitions to the playoffs when teams can gameplan for you.

[Moranis]

Speaking of following players from other teams...

Has anybody checked out how dominant Jokic has been lately?  Like, he's always elite, but in January he was putting up some of the most impressive numbers I can recall:

January:  24.0 points / 11.6 rebounds / 11.3 assists / 67.7% FG% / 53.8% 3PT% / 89.7% FT% / .760 TS%

It's the efficiency that is startlingly good.

Mindbogglingly efficient. It's quite outrageous that he can seemingly just do as he pleases

not to take away from his greatness as a player in this era but he certainly enjoys the benefit of playing against the weakest generation of centers that I can remember.

Agreed.

Additionally, he gets away with being a subpar defender in this era where that wouldn't be the case in eras past. When you watch him, he's probably worse than Luka defensively. Can't stay in front of anyone, and the only reason he has any chance defensively is due to his size.

I think teams will really expose him in the playoffs in the high PnR, and Denver isn't good enough defensively to cover for it. He's about as good as they get offensively and is super efficient, but I don't know how well his game transitions to the playoffs when teams can gameplan for you.

the last three post seasons Denver has been better with him on the bench, which is the opposite of the regular season, so I'm with you.  I need to see Denver do well in the playoffs and them not be better with Jokic on the bench to really start elevating him into the all time great discussion.

[W8ting2McHale]

Speaking of following players from other teams...

Has anybody checked out how dominant Jokic has been lately?  Like, he's always elite, but in January he was putting up some of the most impressive numbers I can recall:

January:  24.0 points / 11.6 rebounds / 11.3 assists / 67.7% FG% / 53.8% 3PT% / 89.7% FT% / .760 TS%

It's the efficiency that is startlingly good.

Mindbogglingly efficient. It's quite outrageous that he can seemingly just do as he pleases

not to take away from his greatness as a player in this era but he certainly enjoys the benefit of playing against the weakest generation of centers that I can remember.

Agreed.

Additionally, he gets away with being a subpar defender in this era where that wouldn't be the case in eras past. When you watch him, he's probably worse than Luka defensively. Can't stay in front of anyone, and the only reason he has any chance defensively is due to his size.

I think teams will really expose him in the playoffs in the high PnR, and Denver isn't good enough defensively to cover for it. He's about as good as they get offensively and is super efficient, but I don't know how well his game transitions to the playoffs when teams can gameplan for you.

the last three post seasons Denver has been better with him on the bench, which is the opposite of the regular season, so I'm with you.  I need to see Denver do well in the playoffs and them not be better with Jokic on the bench to really start elevating him into the all time great discussion.

In past decades would he be a subpar defender?

Or would he be pushing Lambier out of the way? Or Nate Thurmond? He’s certainly big enough and he’s not one to back down from a fight. He plays like Sabonis would have without the injuries and being held back by team USSR. That’s a good to great player in any era.

[slamtheking]

Speaking of following players from other teams...

Has anybody checked out how dominant Jokic has been lately?  Like, he's always elite, but in January he was putting up some of the most impressive numbers I can recall:

January:  24.0 points / 11.6 rebounds / 11.3 assists / 67.7% FG% / 53.8% 3PT% / 89.7% FT% / .760 TS%

It's the efficiency that is startlingly good.

Mindbogglingly efficient. It's quite outrageous that he can seemingly just do as he pleases

not to take away from his greatness as a player in this era but he certainly enjoys the benefit of playing against the weakest generation of centers that I can remember.

Agreed.

Additionally, he gets away with being a subpar defender in this era where that wouldn't be the case in eras past. When you watch him, he's probably worse than Luka defensively. Can't stay in front of anyone, and the only reason he has any chance defensively is due to his size.

I think teams will really expose him in the playoffs in the high PnR, and Denver isn't good enough defensively to cover for it. He's about as good as they get offensively and is super efficient, but I don't know how well his game transitions to the playoffs when teams can gameplan for you.

the last three post seasons Denver has been better with him on the bench, which is the opposite of the regular season, so I'm with you.  I need to see Denver do well in the playoffs and them not be better with Jokic on the bench to really start elevating him into the all time great discussion.

In past decades would he be a subpar defender?

Or would he be pushing Lambier out of the way? Or Nate Thurmond? He’s certainly big enough and he’s not one to back down from a fight. He plays like Sabonis would have without the injuries and being held back by team USSR. That’s a good to great player in any era.

I think he'd still be a terrific offensive player in any era.  thing is, he doesn't have many centers in the game today that make him defend.  KAT, Embiid and not really anyone else. 

[Roy H.]

Both Thybulle and Hyland are heavily involved in rumors.  Would a one-for-one deal make sense?  Philly wants to cut salary and Denver wants less of an offensive freelancer.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Give me all of your Bones Hyland stock. He’s another Tyrese Maxey or Anfernee Simons. I’d be shocked in the Nuggets actually moved him.

[Moranis]

I know this wouldn't happen but

Boston - Hyland
Denver - Pritchard

Boston - Thybulle
Philly - HOU 2nd

Boston - Collins
Atlanta - White, Jackson

New roster

Smalls - Smart, Brogdon, Hyland, Thybulle, Davison
Swings - Tatum, Brown, Grant, Hauser
Bigs - Rob, Horford, Collins, Kornet, Griffin, Gallinari

I like that team more than what we have now.

[Roy H.]

I know this wouldn't happen but

Boston - Hyland
Denver - Pritchard

Boston - Thybulle
Philly - HOU 2nd

Boston - Collins
Atlanta - White, Jackson

New roster

Smalls - Smart, Brogdon, Hyland, Thybulle, Davison
Swings - Tatum, Brown, Grant, Hauser
Bigs - Rob, Horford, Collins, Kornet, Griffin, Gallinari

I like that team more than what we have now.

I agree with you twice:  it would never happen, but it does make us better.

[celticsclay]

I know this wouldn't happen but

Boston - Hyland
Denver - Pritchard

Boston - Thybulle
Philly - HOU 2nd

Boston - Collins
Atlanta - White, Jackson

New roster

Smalls - Smart, Brogdon, Hyland, Thybulle, Davison
Swings - Tatum, Brown, Grant, Hauser
Bigs - Rob, Horford, Collins, Kornet, Griffin, Gallinari

I like that team more than what we have now.

Hyland Pritchard seems like it could actually happen. Hyland has clashed with Malone and they want more ball movement. Would make sense for both teams. Philly can get more for thybulle than a second round pick I would think.