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So, 82-0?
« on: October 03, 2022, 11:49:16 AM »

Offline droopdog7

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I kid, I kid, but the job Stevens has done to put the finishing touches on the team is wild.  So many guys that can switch, so many guys that can drive, so many guys that can shoot and defend.  That said, one bad sign from yesterday was the turnovers, which are difficult to ignore since they essentially doomed our championship dreams last year.  The other is size and rebounding with Rob out.

But if the team stays healthy, could be a nightmare for opposing team on offense and defense.

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2022, 11:56:46 AM »

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I'm not all that impressed by the "finishing touches".  I'm not seeing quite the same things you are.

I'm definitely happy with the core, though, and Hauser looks like he could step into the Gallinari role.  Kabengele looks like a great energy guy on a 2-way.  Once Timelord comes back, the team should definitely be better than last year, which is impressive.


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Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2022, 12:33:13 PM »

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I'm not all that impressed by the "finishing touches".  I'm not seeing quite the same things you are.

I'm definitely happy with the core, though, and Hauser looks like he could step into the Gallinari role.  Kabengele looks like a great energy guy on a 2-way.  Once Timelord comes back, the team should definitely be better than last year, which is impressive.
Brad's finishing touches include Al, White, Brogdon, Gallo, and Griffin

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2022, 12:57:26 PM »

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I'm not all that impressed by the "finishing touches".  I'm not seeing quite the same things you are.

I'm definitely happy with the core, though, and Hauser looks like he could step into the Gallinari role.  Kabengele looks like a great energy guy on a 2-way.  Once Timelord comes back, the team should definitely be better than last year, which is impressive.
Brad's finishing touches include Al, White, Brogdon, Gallo, and Griffin

Ah.  I didn't interpret it that way.  Yeah, if you go back to last year and incorporate all of his moves, then yes, he's done an excellent job.  I can quibble about the last four spots on the roster, or not using the TPEs, but he's created a legit contender.  The Brogdon trade in particular is masterful, in that it gives us a third star at no real cost.

I'm irritated by some of the non-moves, but we're still in a better position that 25+ other teams.


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Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2022, 05:33:22 PM »

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I look forward to building on last season.  We were still 0.500 in what, January?  The ball movement wasn't there.  Moving without the ball was not there.  The offense was very predictable.  It improved significantly from that point on.  We got more healthy, that helped, but you could see things really start to click on offense, even though we added White (who never looked comfortable).

Now we need to pick up where we left off, even though we have a new coach.  Should be similar schemes.  Players should be more comfortable right from the start.  We are starting out with injuries again but I still feel that we should be better, especially in the first half of the season.




Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2022, 06:27:48 PM »

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This team has embraced an identity, chemistry, resilience, and our best players are in or closer to their prime. They picked up where they left off this preseason showing those dominant qualities. With health, 60+ wins are well within reach.

Brad’s done a great job of building around the Jays, Smart, and Rob, keeping and trading for the right players and trading the others without tampering with the core.

I would love to see Tatum and/or Brown have one efficient go-to move that doesn’t involve dribbling from the perimeter; other than that, this team will be dominant.

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2022, 06:57:14 PM »

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I look forward to building on last season.  We were still 0.500 in what, January?  The ball movement wasn't there.  Moving without the ball was not there.  The offense was very predictable.  It improved significantly from that point on.  We got more healthy, that helped, but you could see things really start to click on offense, even though we added White (who never looked comfortable).

Now we need to pick up where we left off, even though we have a new coach.  Should be similar schemes.  Players should be more comfortable right from the start.  We are starting out with injuries again but I still feel that we should be better, especially in the first half of the season.

I hope they pick up where they left off.  Adversity is usually part of the picture in an NBA season. I wonder how CStrong will respond when the new coach faces some challenges.  Does he get any rope as a young, first year coach?  Or will we be seeing fire him / hate his rotations threads the first time the Cs drop 2 straight? 

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2022, 07:26:15 PM »

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I look forward to building on last season.  We were still 0.500 in what, January?  The ball movement wasn't there.  Moving without the ball was not there.  The offense was very predictable.  It improved significantly from that point on.  We got more healthy, that helped, but you could see things really start to click on offense, even though we added White (who never looked comfortable).

Now we need to pick up where we left off, even though we have a new coach.  Should be similar schemes.  Players should be more comfortable right from the start.  We are starting out with injuries again but I still feel that we should be better, especially in the first half of the season.

I hope they pick up where they left off.  Adversity is usually part of the picture in an NBA season. I wonder how CStrong will respond when the new coach faces some challenges.  Does he get any rope as a young, first year coach?  Or will we be seeing fire him / hate his rotations threads the first time the Cs drop 2 straight?

Have we ever had a season where large numbers of forum members were not calling for the head coach to be fired at some point during the season?

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2022, 07:36:57 PM »

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I look forward to building on last season.  We were still 0.500 in what, January?  The ball movement wasn't there.  Moving without the ball was not there.  The offense was very predictable.  It improved significantly from that point on.  We got more healthy, that helped, but you could see things really start to click on offense, even though we added White (who never looked comfortable).

Now we need to pick up where we left off, even though we have a new coach.  Should be similar schemes.  Players should be more comfortable right from the start.  We are starting out with injuries again but I still feel that we should be better, especially in the first half of the season.

I hope they pick up where they left off.  Adversity is usually part of the picture in an NBA season. I wonder how CStrong will respond when the new coach faces some challenges.  Does he get any rope as a young, first year coach?  Or will we be seeing fire him / hate his rotations threads the first time the Cs drop 2 straight?

Have we ever had a season where large numbers of forum members were not calling for the head coach to be fired at some point during the season?
I know it happened in 2007-08. Go figure.

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2022, 09:42:16 PM »

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I look forward to building on last season.  We were still 0.500 in what, January?  The ball movement wasn't there.  Moving without the ball was not there.  The offense was very predictable.  It improved significantly from that point on.  We got more healthy, that helped, but you could see things really start to click on offense, even though we added White (who never looked comfortable).

Now we need to pick up where we left off, even though we have a new coach.  Should be similar schemes.  Players should be more comfortable right from the start.  We are starting out with injuries again but I still feel that we should be better, especially in the first half of the season.

I hope they pick up where they left off.  Adversity is usually part of the picture in an NBA season. I wonder how CStrong will respond when the new coach faces some challenges.  Does he get any rope as a young, first year coach?  Or will we be seeing fire him / hate his rotations threads the first time the Cs drop 2 straight?

Have we ever had a season where large numbers of forum members were not calling for the head coach to be fired at some point during the season?
I know it happened in 2007-08. Go figure.

Oh yeah, there were plenty of 'fire Doc!' posts that season

Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2022, 11:41:22 PM »

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I look forward to building on last season.  We were still 0.500 in what, January?  The ball movement wasn't there.  Moving without the ball was not there.  The offense was very predictable.  It improved significantly from that point on.  We got more healthy, that helped, but you could see things really start to click on offense, even though we added White (who never looked comfortable).

Now we need to pick up where we left off, even though we have a new coach.  Should be similar schemes.  Players should be more comfortable right from the start.  We are starting out with injuries again but I still feel that we should be better, especially in the first half of the season.
I hope they pick up where they left off.  Adversity is usually part of the picture in an NBA season. I wonder how CStrong will respond when the new coach faces some challenges.  Does he get any rope as a young, first year coach?  Or will we be seeing fire him / hate his rotations threads the first time the Cs drop 2 straight?

Have we ever had a season where large numbers of forum members were not calling for the head coach to be fired at some point during the season?
Pretty sure very little people were calling for Brad's head in the mid-2010s. Also Mozzarella doesn't really need a ton of rope considering how we started off last season, he's bound to do better with what he ran yesterday :laugh:
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Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2022, 12:38:44 AM »

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We are Stacked...even without Timelord.....and we have players like Hauser/Grant/PP improving all the time.
Took us half a season to figure it out....we are ready.
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Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2022, 03:37:49 AM »

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Amazing what difference a good result makes…we go from leaderless trash no hopers with no bench to unbeatable with huge depth  :police:

My opinion is the same as before the game result…I think we’re a solid team that is one of the favorites in the East. I, not as worried about end of bench depth as others were, because those end of bench spots are hard to fill with vets who are willing to be out of the rotation until someone gets injured or someone loses form. As always those spots become important when we lose people, but as long as we have the option to sign people then I’m ok with waiting. I do think our rotation is as good as anyone in the league, our first three off the bench could probably start for many other teams (Malcolm, Derrick, GWill). Our team leadership is good.

 I think schematically Joe won’t have a problem, he has enough support around him to carry that on…the challenge will be the things thst come out of left field, e.g. an injury to one of the Jays or managing the egos when people aren’t playing well and the team goes on a losing streak and the media and fans pile on the pressure,  and he has to change minutes or adjust rotations or lay the law down for a discipline breach.

I think we should be competing for a top 3 spot heading into the playoffs. The challenges will be when they hit adversity and start to doubt themselves and when the media and fans start to doubt them. It will be a fun season seeing how they respond.

Let’s see if anyone opinion changes if we lose against the Raptors in Wed…it’s a fan roller coaster after all  :angel:
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Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2022, 06:43:29 AM »

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The hope and expectation is always 82-0. It is then revised to 81-1, 80-2, and so on. I assume most fans operate similarly.

That said - the team didn't turn it last season around until I visited the US - I've planned my visit for the fall, so hopefully we all don't have to suffer through such a middling start this time :)
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Re: So, 82-0?
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2022, 07:10:29 AM »

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The hope and expectation is always 82-0. It is then revised to 81-1, 80-2, and so on. I assume most fans operate similarly.

That said - the team didn't turn it last season around until I visited the US - I've planned my visit for the fall, so hopefully we all don't have to suffer through such a middling start this time :)

Appreciate the sacrifice for the team.

There really is no reason for a slow start this season.  The coaching situation is a risk of course but it seems that they are taking the same philosophies forward this season.  Slow starts are not the end of the world of course.  Both teams in the finals last season had slow starts.  But for a young team like the Celtics, I think it is important to build on last season.  Tighten up the schemes and execution.  Build more nuance into the offensive sets.  That is what they need to do to get over the top.