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Re: Who adds more, Valentine or Kemba?
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2022, 12:11:08 PM »

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For a regular 5 minute type spot, I'd take Valentine, but if I needed a guy to play starter minutes every once in a while I'd prefer Kemba.

I don't think Kemba is that guy anymore...
I think Kemba would be fine every once in awhile playing big minutes.  He had several very nice games last year with New York.  He can't do it consistently though and he isn't good enough for anyone to want him to, but in a pinch when other guys are out, I'd trust Kemba a lot more than a lot of players to not hurt the team.

Agreed.  For a vet minimum I'd pick him up in a heartbeat.

So whose time are you taking away in order to give Kemba 5-10mins per game:Brown, Smart, Brogdon, White or Pritchard?
I believe you have misread this line of posts.

So the C’s would sign Kemba and not give him any minutes unless multiple guys are out? He is a high volume shooter who needs many reps in order to get into a rhythm and be effective. You can’t put Kemba on ice and then periodically throw him out there for big minutes and expect good results. This isn’t NBA2K
the C's aren't signing kemba or Denzel.  It was a hypothetical which I answered.  I just think you weren't following at all as you don't seem to be getting it.

Right, 90% of what is discussed on this site is hypothetical. Should be somewhat realistic, though.
Sure, but I never said Kemba would go weeks without playing and then start and play for a few games and then go back to not playing.  That was entirely your assumption, which just wasn't accurate, which comes back to me saying, you weren't following what was being said.

I asked how it would work in the scenario you gave in terms of minutes distribution and never received an answer. So how would it work? Whose minutes would be reduced or eliminated to allow Kemba to get some court time.
I answered it was a hypothetical. It has no application to the roster.   Neither guy would get any time so neither is worth signing.
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Re: Who adds more, Valentine or Kemba?
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2022, 12:51:20 PM »

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For a regular 5 minute type spot, I'd take Valentine, but if I needed a guy to play starter minutes every once in a while I'd prefer Kemba.

I don't think Kemba is that guy anymore...
I think Kemba would be fine every once in awhile playing big minutes.  He had several very nice games last year with New York.  He can't do it consistently though and he isn't good enough for anyone to want him to, but in a pinch when other guys are out, I'd trust Kemba a lot more than a lot of players to not hurt the team.

Agreed.  For a vet minimum I'd pick him up in a heartbeat.

So whose time are you taking away in order to give Kemba 5-10mins per game:Brown, Smart, Brogdon, White or Pritchard?
I believe you have misread this line of posts.

So the C’s would sign Kemba and not give him any minutes unless multiple guys are out? He is a high volume shooter who needs many reps in order to get into a rhythm and be effective. You can’t put Kemba on ice and then periodically throw him out there for big minutes and expect good results. This isn’t NBA2K
the C's aren't signing kemba or Denzel.  It was a hypothetical which I answered.  I just think you weren't following at all as you don't seem to be getting it.

Right, 90% of what is discussed on this site is hypothetical. Should be somewhat realistic, though.
Sure, but I never said Kemba would go weeks without playing and then start and play for a few games and then go back to not playing.  That was entirely your assumption, which just wasn't accurate, which comes back to me saying, you weren't following what was being said.

I asked how it would work in the scenario you gave in terms of minutes distribution and never received an answer. So how would it work? Whose minutes would be reduced or eliminated to allow Kemba to get some court time.
I answered it was a hypothetical. It has no application to the roster.   Neither guy would get any time so neither is worth signing.

If you took into account roster construction I think Valentine is a more versatile player at this point. Kemba is an undersized shooter but I'd prefer PP over Kemba at this point. Valentine can play 3 positions from the deep bench.

I might prefer Justin Jackson to either Kemba or Valentine...
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Re: Who adds more, Valentine or Kemba?
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2022, 02:59:16 PM »

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Throwing out names, I'm thinking one of those Utah guys Danny has--Clarkson or Bogdanovich for White plus a draft pick. I don't know about the money.

Kevin Love might be ripe for a buyout and a vet min signing, but the Cavs are now Eastern contenders, so I doubt they'd do it.

Re: Who adds more, Valentine or Kemba?
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2022, 03:29:27 PM »

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Throwing out names, I'm thinking one of those Utah guys Danny has--Clarkson or Bogdanovich for White plus a draft pick. I don't know about the money.

Kevin Love might be ripe for a buyout and a vet min signing, but the Cavs are now Eastern contenders, so I doubt they'd do it.

White is a better player than those to players.

Re: Who adds more, Valentine or Kemba?
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2022, 03:59:49 PM »

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Throwing out names, I'm thinking one of those Utah guys Danny has--Clarkson or Bogdanovich for White plus a draft pick. I don't know about the money.

Kevin Love might be ripe for a buyout and a vet min signing, but the Cavs are now Eastern contenders, so I doubt they'd do it.

White is a better player than those to players.
Yep.  Probably could have had Clarkson before the big TPE expired though, of course I'm not sure he'd be the right add. 

I'd consider something like White for Clarkson, Vanderbilt, but I don't think Utah would do that.
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