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How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« on: September 02, 2022, 01:10:39 PM »

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Right now, we've got two mid-sized trade exceptions, which allow us to bring back players making a maximum of $7,007,815 and $5,990,000.

Additionally, we're very likely to get a Disabled Player Exception for Gallinari, worth $3,239,500.  This exception can be used to sign a free agent to a one-year deal, or to trade for an expiring contract (if it's a trade, the team can acquire a player making up to $3,339,500).

Here's a list of player salaries.  Who could we realistically target?

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/



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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2022, 01:13:45 PM »

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Right now, we've got two mid-sized trade exceptions, which allow us to bring back players making a maximum of $7,007,815 and $5,990,000.

Additionally, we're very likely to get a Disabled Player Exception for Gallinari, worth $3,239,500.  This exception can be used to sign a free agent to a one-year deal, or to trade for an expiring contract (if it's a trade, the team can acquire a player making up to $3,339,500).

Here's a list of player salaries.  Who could we realistically target?

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/
I wouldn't use the two TPE's yet.

Can the DPE be split?
Maybe use a portion(full) DPE to entice an otherwise Vet min to sign.
« Last Edit: September 02, 2022, 01:28:08 PM by sgrogan »

Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2022, 01:59:19 PM »

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Probably try to sign Carmelo for the minimum or, failing that, trade for Rudy Gay as a backup plan. Both can kind of approximate the bench help you were looking to get from Gallo. If I remember correctly DPEs don't pro-rate as the season goes on, so I'd hold on to that for buyout season, where it effectively becomes a second MLE that you can offer guys.

Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2022, 02:21:49 PM »

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Right now, we've got two mid-sized trade exceptions, which allow us to bring back players making a maximum of $7,007,815 and $5,990,000.

Additionally, we're very likely to get a Disabled Player Exception for Gallinari, worth $3,239,500.  This exception can be used to sign a free agent to a one-year deal, or to trade for an expiring contract (if it's a trade, the team can acquire a player making up to $3,339,500).

Here's a list of player salaries.  Who could we realistically target?

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/players/

Maybe Rudy Gay? He doesn't really fit in Utah's timeline and would fit into the larger TPE. I'm not sure what it would take to pry him away, though, because he isn't worth a first and I don't know how much Ainge wants second rounders given that he may already have too many firsts. Maybe swap rights on our 2023 first, offering to take the worst pick out of the weird HOU/BRK/PHI swap and the Minnesota pick if they're worse than our pick, and a second rounder if no swap occurs?

Justin Holiday would be okay, same with Uncle Jeff. No one else really seems like they'd be worth it, I'd rather sign a minimum guy and see if someone shakes loose closer to the deadline.

I think ideally I'd trade for Gay using the bigger TPE and then sign Dwight with the vet min or DPE, or sign Melo and Dwight using a vet min and the DPE. I'd love to wait until buyout time to use the DPE so we could outbid other contenders, but we need more guys to get through the first half of the season. I don't think we can afford to wait given Rob's history and Al's age.

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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2022, 02:33:06 PM »

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Here's a list of unsigned free agents from NBA.com.

https://www.nba.com/players/free-agent-tracker/2022

Some interesting names:

LaMarcus Aldridge (37yo though)
Melo (38yo)
Bjelica
Moses Brown (THE Moses Brown)
Boogie
Freedom
Blake
Montrezl Harrell
Dwight
Iggy
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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2022, 02:36:07 PM »

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Cam Reddish is available, but I think he wants a bigger role (to maximize his free agent signing this summer) which wouldn't be here, but he'd be an interesting younger guy that could theoretically be here long term though.  Not sure what the Knicks would want for him, but I'd at least make a call to his agent and the Knicks to gauge interest. 

Gay can probably be had relatively cheaply.  Can't see that he has much use in Utah these days.

But other than them, the team is much better off just making a strong push for guys like Carmelo and Dwight.  They seem like far better options.  Also, why Boston should have used the bigger TPE and actually gotten some real depth on the roster.
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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2022, 02:40:13 PM »

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But other than them, the team is much better off just making a strong push for guys like Carmelo and Dwight.  They seem like far better options.  Also, why Boston should have used the bigger TPE and actually gotten some real depth on the roster.

I think I'd sign Carmelo and a legit center.  Probably Boogie for me, but Whiteside or D12 would do.

I'd use the DPE to sign the best available buyout candidate.  Josh Richardson?  Derrick Favors? 

And yes, not using the $17 million TPE is looking like a mistake.  Having even one rotation guy go down puts our depth in serious question, without a decent "chunk" contract to trade for anybody. 


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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2022, 02:50:02 PM »

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Like i said in another post, Harrell is still out there, not a scorer but great on defense & boards..
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Like i said in another post, Harrell is still out there, not a scorer but great on defense & boards..

Harrell is a scorer but horrible defensively...

Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2022, 04:10:05 PM »

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But other than them, the team is much better off just making a strong push for guys like Carmelo and Dwight.  They seem like far better options.  Also, why Boston should have used the bigger TPE and actually gotten some real depth on the roster.

I think I'd sign Carmelo and a legit center.  Probably Boogie for me, but Whiteside or D12 would do.

I'd use the DPE to sign the best available buyout candidate.  Josh Richardson?  Derrick Favors? 

And yes, not using the $17 million TPE is looking like a mistake.  Having even one rotation guy go down puts our depth in serious question, without a decent "chunk" contract to trade for anybody.

They weren’t ever going to spend that kind of money.  Gallinari is making $6.5 million and was going to be somewhere between 7th and 9th in the rotation.  They still have TPEs to get someone of that quality and salary.

Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2022, 04:50:19 PM »

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But other than them, the team is much better off just making a strong push for guys like Carmelo and Dwight.  They seem like far better options.  Also, why Boston should have used the bigger TPE and actually gotten some real depth on the roster.

I think I'd sign Carmelo and a legit center.  Probably Boogie for me, but Whiteside or D12 would do.

I'd use the DPE to sign the best available buyout candidate.  Josh Richardson?  Derrick Favors? 

And yes, not using the $17 million TPE is looking like a mistake.  Having even one rotation guy go down puts our depth in serious question, without a decent "chunk" contract to trade for anybody.

They weren’t ever going to spend that kind of money.  Gallinari is making $6.5 million and was going to be somewhere between 7th and 9th in the rotation.  They still have TPEs to get someone of that quality and salary.

It would be nice to have the flexibility to get somebody better.  For instance, Markannen may be available, but we have no means to get him.  Bogdanovic.  Plenty of others.

Wyc said there was no spending limit.  Should we not trust him?



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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2022, 05:10:58 PM »

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But other than them, the team is much better off just making a strong push for guys like Carmelo and Dwight.  They seem like far better options.  Also, why Boston should have used the bigger TPE and actually gotten some real depth on the roster.

I think I'd sign Carmelo and a legit center.  Probably Boogie for me, but Whiteside or D12 would do.

I'd use the DPE to sign the best available buyout candidate.  Josh Richardson?  Derrick Favors? 

And yes, not using the $17 million TPE is looking like a mistake.  Having even one rotation guy go down puts our depth in serious question, without a decent "chunk" contract to trade for anybody.

They weren’t ever going to spend that kind of money.  Gallinari is making $6.5 million and was going to be somewhere between 7th and 9th in the rotation.  They still have TPEs to get someone of that quality and salary.

It would be nice to have the flexibility to get somebody better.  For instance, Markannen may be available, but we have no means to get him.  Bogdanovic.  Plenty of others.

Wyc said there was no spending limit.  Should we not trust him?
I think we can break the spending code.

Spending into the tax "for a contender" means an nba finalist.
Spending "no spending limit" means a defending champ.

Can't say that I blame them. Deadline/buyout season will show how "cheap" they are.
That said I'm a sooner rather than later fan.




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Re: How should we spend our trade exceptions?
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2022, 06:05:13 PM »

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It would be nice to have the flexibility to get somebody better.  For instance, Markannen may be available, but we have no means to get him.  Bogdanovic.  Plenty of others.

Either of those guys would cost at least the 2025 first and likely more. I'd rather keep that powder dry for a more meaningful hole than "second forward off the bench". Carmelo should be able to fill the role just fine, and if he signs elsewhere Rudy Gay should be essentially free in a trade.

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Muscala just signed a new contract and so can’t be traded for month, and he has veto rights on top of it.  Dieng also is unable to be traded until mid-December.