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Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #240 on: July 08, 2022, 05:48:24 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team

Problems with that:

1. Poetl is probably overqualified to be a backup.
2. He's an expiring that would cost like 45 million total in salary and luxury tax
3. The Spurs almost certainly want a 1st for him, and probably justifiably so. That's a lot to give for a backup center on an expiring contract.

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #241 on: July 08, 2022, 05:49:25 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team

2 unprotected 1st and Pritchard for Poeltl???  I'm very glad you are not the GM. 

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #242 on: July 08, 2022, 06:01:43 PM »

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How about this one… Enes “Freedom” Kanter. As backup center and for the Vet min, I doubt the C’s can do better.

Can’t tell if serious…

Name someone better for the Vet min.

Better to leave the roster spot empty.  He’d be subtraction by addition.

He’d immediately be an upgrade over Kornet. He is a good rebounder and can at least score underneath. Luke doesn’t do anything well.

Luke doesn’t complain when he doesn’t see the court, which neither he nor Kanter would most nights.  If you’re a fringe player, as both are at this point, it’s better to not complain about everything.

He’s also awful on defense.  Kornet isn’t great, but he’s better than Kanter at that end.

I don’t recall Kanter complaining about lack of playing time. All I know is that Kanter is a legitimate NBA player that has career averages of 11pts/8rebs over 12 seasons. He just turned 30, so he’s still in his physical prime. Kornet is a G-league player and cannot be the first Center off the bench. Rob Will miss games and so will Al. They need someone better.
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Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #243 on: July 08, 2022, 06:51:38 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team

Problems with that:

1. Poetl is probably overqualified to be a backup.
2. He's an expiring that would cost like 45 million total in salary and luxury tax
3. The Spurs almost certainly want a 1st for him, and probably justifiably so. That's a lot to give for a backup center on an expiring contract.

A first for an expiring contract? I could see that if he had at least 2 years left. Evan Fournier cost us 2 2nd picks when he had half a season left. That’s what I would offer.

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #244 on: July 08, 2022, 06:54:14 PM »

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Bam Adebayo in a 3-way with the Nets involving KD. :P

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KD's preferred destinations are Phoenix and Miami. I would assume the Heat would be willing to sacrifice Bam. Problem is, the Nets are not allowed to acquire Bam because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule. A third team would have to come into play. Enters Boston.

It's possible that the Heat would like us to be the 3rd team cause
a) we can send them a Bam replacement in Timelord
b) we can send Brooklyn a massive expiring in Horford

Tatum - Brown - Bam would be the best young core in the NBA!

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #245 on: July 08, 2022, 06:58:45 PM »

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Bam Adebayo in a 3-way with the Nets involving KD. :P

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KD's preferred destinations are Phoenix and Miami. I would assume the Heat would be willing to sacrifice Bam. Problem is, the Nets are not allowed to acquire Bam because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule. A third team would have to come into play. Enters Boston.

It's possible that the Heat would like us to be the 3rd team cause
a) we can send them a Bam replacement in Timelord
b) we can send Brooklyn a massive expiring in Horford

Tatum - Brown - Bam would be the best young core in the NBA!
Why would the Nets make that trade?  They're getting an old Horford.  A very overpaid bench player.  An overrated and soon to be overpaid player.   

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #246 on: July 08, 2022, 07:00:17 PM »

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Bam Adebayo in a 3-way with the Nets involving KD. :P

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KD's preferred destinations are Phoenix and Miami. I would assume the Heat would be willing to sacrifice Bam. Problem is, the Nets are not allowed to acquire Bam because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule. A third team would have to come into play. Enters Boston.

It's possible that the Heat would like us to be the 3rd team cause
a) we can send them a Bam replacement in Timelord
b) we can send Brooklyn a massive expiring in Horford

Tatum - Brown - Bam would be the best young core in the NBA!
Why would the Nets make that trade?  They're getting an old Horford.  A very overpaid bench player.  An overrated and soon to be overpaid player.

It's a great trade for the Heat. Why does Boston do this?

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #247 on: July 08, 2022, 07:00:59 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team

Problems with that:

1. Poetl is probably overqualified to be a backup.
2. He's an expiring that would cost like 45 million total in salary and luxury tax
3. The Spurs almost certainly want a 1st for him, and probably justifiably so. That's a lot to give for a backup center on an expiring contract.

A first for an expiring contract? I could see that if he had at least 2 years left. Evan Fournier cost us 2 2nd picks when he had half a season left. That’s what I would offer.
First, Poeltl is better than Fournier and his fit is excellent. Second, as I stated, extend Poeltl so you have him for years. Since Horford's contract is gone once Poeltl's extension kicks in, that extension, financially, will be saving some money. Third, Poeltl would only be a backup one year and in that year would start a bunch of games as Horford and Timelord get rest. Lastly, if everything works right, those two firsts will be 28-30 in the first round, or basically, expensive salary 2nds.
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Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #248 on: July 08, 2022, 07:01:07 PM »

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Bam Adebayo in a 3-way with the Nets involving KD. :P

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KD's preferred destinations are Phoenix and Miami. I would assume the Heat would be willing to sacrifice Bam. Problem is, the Nets are not allowed to acquire Bam because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule. A third team would have to come into play. Enters Boston.

It's possible that the Heat would like us to be the 3rd team cause
a) we can send them a Bam replacement in Timelord
b) we can send Brooklyn a massive expiring in Horford

Tatum - Brown - Bam would be the best young core in the NBA!

We couldn't get Bam for the same reason.

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #249 on: July 08, 2022, 07:05:58 PM »

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Bam Adebayo in a 3-way with the Nets involving KD. :P

(click on image to enlarge)


KD's preferred destinations are Phoenix and Miami. I would assume the Heat would be willing to sacrifice Bam. Problem is, the Nets are not allowed to acquire Bam because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule. A third team would have to come into play. Enters Boston.

It's possible that the Heat would like us to be the 3rd team cause
a) we can send them a Bam replacement in Timelord
b) we can send Brooklyn a massive expiring in Horford

Tatum - Brown - Bam would be the best young core in the NBA!

We couldn't get Bam for the same reason.
Tatum's Designated Rookie Contract wasn't traded to the Celtics, so Boston could take on Bam. The thing with Designated Rookie Contracts is you can have two on your roster, they just both can't have been traded to your team. At least that's what I read somewhere.

The C's couldn't trade for Anthony Davis' Designated Rookie Contract because we had Kyrie that was on one and we traded for Kyrie. Nets can't trade for one of those contracts because Simmons, who they traded for, is on one.

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #250 on: July 08, 2022, 07:13:00 PM »

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Bam Adebayo in a 3-way with the Nets involving KD. :P

(click on image to enlarge)


KD's preferred destinations are Phoenix and Miami. I would assume the Heat would be willing to sacrifice Bam. Problem is, the Nets are not allowed to acquire Bam because of the Designated Rookie Extension rule. A third team would have to come into play. Enters Boston.

It's possible that the Heat would like us to be the 3rd team cause
a) we can send them a Bam replacement in Timelord
b) we can send Brooklyn a massive expiring in Horford

Tatum - Brown - Bam would be the best young core in the NBA!

We couldn't get Bam for the same reason.
Tatum's Designated Rookie Contract wasn't traded to the Celtics, so Boston could take on Bam. The thing with Designated Rookie Contracts is you can have two on your roster, they just both can't have been traded to your team. At least that's what I read somewhere.

The C's couldn't trade for Anthony Davis' Designated Rookie Contract because we had Kyrie that was on one and we traded for Kyrie. Nets can't trade for one of those contracts because Simmons, who they traded for, is on one.

Oh, Thanks for explaining that. It's still a really bad trade for the Celtics and Nets and great for the Heat.


Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #251 on: July 08, 2022, 07:13:56 PM »

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Better trade targets:

Holmes
Gafford (interesting contract that would mean limited luxury tax this year)
Plumlee
Favors

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #252 on: July 08, 2022, 07:24:55 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team

Love this idea Nick. Would be ecstatic if we could pull this off

Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #253 on: July 08, 2022, 07:29:24 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team
2 unprotected FRP’s for a backup big man is a wild amount to give up.
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Re: Which center should we sign?
« Reply #254 on: July 08, 2022, 07:31:34 PM »

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Just reported that Spurs making Poeltl and Richardson available. Too expensive though given our tax situation.
Grabbing Poeltl with the TPE would be huge for this team. Yes, the owners have to pay a tax big time this year, but if they extend Poeltl, they have the perfect Horford replacement for the future when Al's $27 million come off the books next year.

Meanwhile for this year, it would make the Celtics one of, if not the strongest defensive interior team's in the league and allow a reduction in minutes for Al and Timelord so they are injury free and rested for a long playoff run.

Poeltl for two unprotected first and the TPE could do it. Maybe you thrown in Pritchard.

Smart/Brogdon
Brown/White
Tatum/Grant
Horford/Gallo
Timelord/Poeltl

Love that team's balance and talent level. A very serious 10 deep team
2 unprotected FRP’s for a backup big man is a wild amount to give up.
See my above response to JBcat