Tied 2-2, Do You Believe?

[DrinkinCelticKool-Aid]

 Yes I believe, I believe Tatum is still undisciplined and  likes to pull up and shoot the long ball, because that is what he has liked to do since day 1. He is too inconsistent of a shooter to just default to shooting 3's. It's evident he like to play this way, but he still hasn't matured to the level of playing the way the team needs him to play versus the way he wants to play. Warriors couldn't stop it him driving to the basket in game 3, so why the hell go away from that? He still hasn't grown past the,  'just settling" portion of his game. I don't think he's ready to deliver on this stage at his age, and without more experience of being here. I'm won't be totally disappointed if we finish choking this series away, which I believe we have officially started to. ( I don't believe we are capable of winning this series now after choking game 4 away.)The sting of blowing game 4 will become seared in the consciousness of everyone on the team and especially Tatum, which I believe is the experience that both him, and the team to some degree, needs. Game 4 may become the gift that keeps on giving and hopefully haunts and eats at Tatum, to the point he transcends into the player the team needs him to be, versus the verion he would like to be. Three's can be an effective weapon, but it's far from being the tool for every job. Sometimes you need to shoot 3's, and sometimes you need to curbstomp.

[libermaniac]

Yes I believe, I believe Tatum is still undisciplined and  likes to pull up and shoot the long ball, because that is what he has liked to do since day 1. He is too inconsistent of a shooter to just default to shooting 3's. It's evident he like to play this way, but he still hasn't matured to the level of playing the way the team needs him to play versus the way he wants to play. Warriors couldn't stop it him driving to the basket in game 3, so why the hell go away from that? He still hasn't grown past the,  'just settling" portion of his game. I don't think he's ready to deliver on this stage at his age, and without more experience of being here. I'm won't be totally disappointed if we finish choking this series away, which I believe we have officially started to. ( I don't believe we are capable of winning this series now after choking game 4 away.)The sting of blowing game 4 will become seared in the consciousness of everyone on the team and especially Tatum, which I believe is the experience that both him, and the team to some degree, needs. Game 4 may become the gift that keeps on giving and hopefully haunts and eats at Tatum, to the point he transcends into the player the team needs him to be, versus the verion he would like to be. Three's can be an effective weapon, but it's far from being the tool for every job. Sometimes you need to shoot 3's, and sometimes you need to curbstomp.

He was 4-8 from 3 and 4-15 inside yesterday. You sure about that analysis?

[SCeltic34]

Just one complete game…start to finish making free throws, not turning it over…moving the basketball on offense. We have not seen this in this series.

Should we be giving GSW's defense more credit for bothering BOS offense?

It is not a fantastic defense but they can switch well and keep enough foot-speed on the ball defensively to force opponents to play more one-on-one basketball than ball movement orientated offense.

I feel like they are not getting enough credit for disrupting BOS offense.

We should certainly give them some credit.  However I'd argue that it's more on Boston not taking advantage of opportunities.  Watching Tatum refuse to attack Bjelica twice on the perimeter (one which resulted in a terrible cross court pass and turnover), and then later getting stripped by Bjelica is maddening.  A star should be salivating at that matchup.

The Warriors cannot contain the Celtics dribble penetration consistently enough throughout the game - they don't have the individual defenders to do this. This was on full display in game 3.  Milwaukee was a much more physical and imposing defense than GS.  The Heat were also better defensively.  If the Celtics make the proper reads there's no reason they should lose this series.

[Larry for 3]

Fact of the matter is through 4 games the Celtics have shown that they have no answer to stop Curry. This isn’t the Bucks or Heat. We’re not beating this team, IMO, if we don’t slow him down. In the end he will beat us. I had no fear of any perimeter payer in the last 2 rounds. And Klay is getting going. Add it to the turnovers and I’m not feeling good at all.

[Rondo9]

Fact of the matter is through 4 games the Celtics have shown that they have no answer to stop Curry. This isn’t the Bucks or Heat. We’re not beating this team, IMO, if we don’t slow him down. In the end he will beat us. I had no fear of any perimeter payer in the last 2 rounds. And Klay is getting going. Add it to the turnovers and I’m not feeling good at all.

So, start talking about the offseason then if you're going to give up like that.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Well, if we were told in Dec that we'd be 2-2 in The Finals with Golden State, We all would have taken it and been happy as crap.
C's in 6

[angryguy77]

Well, if we were told in Dec that we'd be 2-2 in The Finals with Golden State, We all would have taken it and been happy as crap.
C's in 6

Now add to that story about why we're 2-2 and you might not get as positive a response

[hpantazo]

Well, if we were told in Dec that we'd be 2-2 in The Finals with Golden State, We all would have taken it and been happy as crap.
C's in 6

Now add to that story about why we're 2-2 and you might not get as positive a response

I mean, we're in the Finals against an all-time great in Curry. Being upset that we're not up 3-1 vs 2-2 is being spoiled.

I felt going in to this series these are two evenly matched teams. Now after 4 games I feel we've got more talent and athleticism and should be able to pull this out with our slight advantage, but we're not playing against a mediocre team here with a subpar star. Golden State are multiple time former champs with an all-time great looking to cement his legacy. It's not supposed to be easy.

[SparzWizard]

Lou Williams said Kobe Bryant found Steph Curry's weakness back in the day when he competed against him-- just guard to the side of him and shut him down. Curry don't like it.

[No Nickname]

Last night's loss feels like it put us down 1-3, even though it's actually 2-2.  It just felt like a must-win game.

So I keep having to remind myself that it's still 2-2 and GS still has to beat us twice to eliminate us.

[Sophomore]

I have absolutely no idea!

This series is predictably unpredictable.

[slamtheking]

in the other thread with predictions for this series I went with GSW in 6 -- mostly because this team is way too inconsistent not just game to game but quarter to quarter and especially because my predictions are almost always wrong.  for the sake of the team, I'm going to stick with my typical unreliable predictions and go with GSW in 6 still

[DrinkinCelticKool-Aid]

Yes I believe, I believe Tatum is still undisciplined and  likes to pull up and shoot the long ball, because that is what he has liked to do since day 1. He is too inconsistent of a shooter to just default to shooting 3's. It's evident he like to play this way, but he still hasn't matured to the level of playing the way the team needs him to play versus the way he wants to play. Warriors couldn't stop it him driving to the basket in game 3, so why the hell go away from that? He still hasn't grown past the,  'just settling" portion of his game. I don't think he's ready to deliver on this stage at his age, and without more experience of being here. I'm won't be totally disappointed if we finish choking this series away, which I believe we have officially started to. ( I don't believe we are capable of winning this series now after choking game 4 away.)The sting of blowing game 4 will become seared in the consciousness of everyone on the team and especially Tatum, which I believe is the experience that both him, and the team to some degree, needs. Game 4 may become the gift that keeps on giving and hopefully haunts and eats at Tatum, to the point he transcends into the player the team needs him to be, versus the verion he would like to be. Three's can be an effective weapon, but it's far from being the tool for every job. Sometimes you need to shoot 3's, and sometimes you need to curbstomp.

He was 4-8 from 3 and 4-15 inside yesterday. You sure about that analysis?

Yeah I'm sure. Dude those are empty numbers you're throwing around. Anyone watching Tatum knows there are two distinctly different versions with which he chooses to approach playing inside. It usually seems he has decided before tipoff which way he is going to approach driving inside on that night. One game he'll plays with force driving directly to the hoop (game 3 flavor), the other he blows by the rim with an overly finessed layup that doesn't go in. Why go away from playing like he did in game 3? It would have been better than the way he was attacking last night, and much better that just hoisting the rock in the later part of the 4th when it wasn't falling. Since you want to go with stats, Tatum's successful shooting night decided to STB after 10:46 in the 4th, when he makes his last 3, followed by missing 3 shots thereafter, when he doesn't make another shot for the night. To be complete, he also missed a layup in that quarter as well. Give me an aggressive and dominant Tatum against this Warriors team, especially late in the game when his shot isn't falling.

[Phantom255x]

The Celtics better be running layup and FT drills ALL weekend

[angryguy77]

Well, if we were told in Dec that we'd be 2-2 in The Finals with Golden State, We all would have taken it and been happy as crap.
C's in 6

Now add to that story about why we're 2-2 and you might not get as positive a response

I mean, we're in the Finals against an all-time great in Curry. Being upset that we're not up 3-1 vs 2-2 is being spoiled.

I felt going in to this series these are two evenly matched teams. Now after 4 games I feel we've got more talent and athleticism and should be able to pull this out with our slight advantage, but we're not playing against a mediocre team here with a subpar star. Golden State are multiple time former champs with an all-time great looking to cement his legacy. It's not supposed to be easy.

The frustrating thing isn't thr loss, I expected some against a good team like GS. What is sucking the enjoyment out is how they lose.

For.me personally, the loses are maddening and the wins are dampened because you know the odds of then getting sloppy and losing the next are high.