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Our "Role" players put us over the top.
« on: May 16, 2022, 12:37:43 PM »

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In the playoffs when the stars are steady role players put you over the top. We had the Al Horford game and the Grant Williams game. Pritchard made some good plays and shot well in game 7. White had a couple of good offensive games along with steady D when he got in games. they came up big a couple of times in tiny minutes. The Bucks not giving PJ Tucker his money at the beginning of the year was a big mistake. Not having Tucker made them less flexible and it could be argued is the reason they ducked the Nets.

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Bucks thought Grayson Allen was the answer for something. They really should've kept the championship role players together...

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Agreed. It is our guys 3-7 that put us over the top.

Smart, Horford, Rob Williams, Derrick White, Grant Williams.

To a lesser extent Pritchard.

Nobody else in the East has this sort of power / this quality in their depth. Golden State is the only team left that has some comparable / competitive level of quality supporting cast. Nobody else does.

And that is what separates Boston from the pack.

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what is good about that is we do not need JB or JT to be a hero. just have each put in 20 something or maybe 30 from 1 of them

as long as AL, smart, gwill get double digits AND we get something from PP and white.

if we could get anything from theis and timelord we really would be sitting pretty.

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They did, and just as accurately, the Bucks' role players sunk them.  Outside of Giannis and Jrue, Pat Connaughton was their best scorer, at 10.3 points per game.



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They did, and just as accurately, the Bucks' role players sunk them.  Outside of Giannis and Jrue, Pat Connaughton was their best scorer, at 10.3 points per game.

that 4 for 33 from 3 was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. we did give up a ton of layups tho. bucks could not throw it in the ocean it seemed at times. but our defense deserves credit also.
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Got to have good players to advance in playoffs..look in 2008, we had Sam Cassell, James Posey, Glen Davis, pj Brown
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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This Celtics team should get more credit for beating Teams with "better" players than we have. Kyrie and KD are supposedly better than the guys we have, I disagree but it was said. Giannis was the best player in the world. The narrative has been that great players win championships but I disagree. Great teams win!

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They did, and just as accurately, the Bucks' role players sunk them.  Outside of Giannis and Jrue, Pat Connaughton was their best scorer, at 10.3 points per game.
which is why they really really needed Middleton. 
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this has truly been a "team" which is what's making it so fun.

for die hard fans like us who know every player - not just the stars - and obsess over the small points of who our 7-9th guy should be - this is truly fantastic to see each guy contribute in their way and play to their highest potential at times

so fun to watch
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Bucks thought Grayson Allen was the answer for something. They really should've kept the championship role players together...

Grayson Allen is actually making more over the next two years than PJ Tucker is this year and next. Despite how people feel personally about Allen, he is actually a decent player, but it was still an odd decision to make that trade-off for a team that just won a Title. They gave up 2 2nd rounders in the process, as well.

At the deadline, they tried to correct their mistake by acquiring Ibaka and trading away DiVincenzo. They also managed to acquire 2 2nd rounders to make up for the ones they traded away for Allen. Unfortunately for the Bucks, Ibaka made nowhere near the impact that Tucker did last year. So much so, that he barely even played in the playoffs.

So, yeah, Tucker and DiVincenzo would have been a much better duo than Allen and Ibaka. In hindsight, that is just really rough decision making on two separate trades by their GM, Jon Horst.

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Bucks thought Grayson Allen was the answer for something. They really should've kept the championship role players together...

Grayson Allen is actually making more over the next two years than PJ Tucker is this year and next. Despite how people feel personally about Allen, he is actually a decent player, but it was still an odd decision to make that trade-off for a team that just won a Title. They gave up 2 2nd rounders in the process, as well.

At the deadline, they tried to correct their mistake by acquiring Ibaka and trading away DiVincenzo. They also managed to acquire 2 2nd rounders to make up for the ones they traded away for Allen. Unfortunately for the Bucks, Ibaka made nowhere near the impact that Tucker did last year. So much so, that he barely even played in the playoffs.

So, yeah, Tucker and DiVincenzo would have been a much better duo than Allen and Ibaka. In hindsight, that is just really rough decision making on two separate trades by their GM, Jon Horst.

Weren't the Bucks rumored to be interested in Grant, but we weren't willing to just take bake DiVincenzo and wanted a first? You have to think the Bucks are regretting not throwing one in (and that Brad is relieved)
I'm bitter.

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Bucks thought Grayson Allen was the answer for something. They really should've kept the championship role players together...

Grayson Allen is actually making more over the next two years than PJ Tucker is this year and next. Despite how people feel personally about Allen, he is actually a decent player, but it was still an odd decision to make that trade-off for a team that just won a Title. They gave up 2 2nd rounders in the process, as well.

At the deadline, they tried to correct their mistake by acquiring Ibaka and trading away DiVincenzo. They also managed to acquire 2 2nd rounders to make up for the ones they traded away for Allen. Unfortunately for the Bucks, Ibaka made nowhere near the impact that Tucker did last year. So much so, that he barely even played in the playoffs.

So, yeah, Tucker and DiVincenzo would have been a much better duo than Allen and Ibaka. In hindsight, that is just really rough decision making on two separate trades by their GM, Jon Horst.

Bad moves at the time. Worse now...

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Bucks thought Grayson Allen was the answer for something. They really should've kept the championship role players together...

Grayson Allen is actually making more over the next two years than PJ Tucker is this year and next. Despite how people feel personally about Allen, he is actually a decent player, but it was still an odd decision to make that trade-off for a team that just won a Title. They gave up 2 2nd rounders in the process, as well.

At the deadline, they tried to correct their mistake by acquiring Ibaka and trading away DiVincenzo. They also managed to acquire 2 2nd rounders to make up for the ones they traded away for Allen. Unfortunately for the Bucks, Ibaka made nowhere near the impact that Tucker did last year. So much so, that he barely even played in the playoffs.

So, yeah, Tucker and DiVincenzo would have been a much better duo than Allen and Ibaka. In hindsight, that is just really rough decision making on two separate trades by their GM, Jon Horst.

Weren't the Bucks rumored to be interested in Grant, but we weren't willing to just take bake DiVincenzo and wanted a first? You have to think the Bucks are regretting not throwing one in (and that Brad is relieved)

I think the Bucks might also regret trading DiVencenzo.

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This flips now though and I think Miami is deeper than us, at least at guard.  Things don't match up exactly but I like our "big 3" over Miami's:

Tatum, Brown, Smart vs. Butler, Adebayo, Lowry; is an edge for us but not a huge edge.

Then we go (ordered roughly by minutes expected to be played):

Horford, White, Williams, Williams, Pritchard, Theis, Nesmith
vs.
Tucker, Strus, Herro, Oladipo, Vincent Robinson, Dedmon

Again, hard to align these as match ups but we have better size depth but Miami has better guard depth.  I don't mind putting Nesmith out there if we need another guard for spot minutes (if Smart does not play).  Tell him to stay glued to Strus.  Only shoot if you have a dunk.