Celtics Team Vaccination status

[Celtics2021]

Just saw a post on basketball forever for instagram Jaylen brown and Al Horford are unvaccinated, does anyone know anymore details about this?

Playing Toronto is problematic for a lot of teams it seems.

Mannix said this in an interview with TSN recently, and it’s picking up steam. Mannix does have good sources and intel on the C’s.

Scal has also implied this in the past, so I hate to say it but it feels likely Jaylen and Horford aren’t vaccinated. Which is a bit odd in Horford’s case since he said he’ll be available whenever needed so does that mean Horford might get the vaccine soon?

Some people on Twitter were also joking that Jaylen went all out tonight to try and win because he wants to avoid a series with Toronto lol which would be the case if they are 4 seed

To enter Canada you need to be fully vaccinated.

It's too late to be fully vaccinated, that means 2 full doses and a booster right? Or just at least 2 full doses? Either way, won't make it in time if they haven't even gotten the first dose.

Our season may potentially come down to who is unvaccinated, so better to avoid Toronto for a potential first-round matchup lol. Then again, it could also be problematic if Toronto upsets another team who faces them and moves onto the East Semis. That would be interesting.

To meet Canada’s vaccine mandate, two weeks after a single dose of the Johnson and Johnson shot qualifies.  A player could have gotten the shot this week to qualify, maybe even as late as yesterday depending on scheduling.

[KeepBigAl]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

[Roy H.]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

It's also US law going the other way, I think.  So, it's hard to grant an exemption if you're not going to go the other way.

And, if the NBA got an exemption, the NHL would undoubtedly want one as well. 

I don't have a lot of sympathy.  Get the shot.

[Donoghus]

Probably going to be a moot point.  Narrow needle to thread to get to the 4 seed. 

Then you wouldn't have to worry about it until a potential conference finals matchup which would be pretty unlikely.

[mef730]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

Well, it's just what you said. The NBA has no jurisdiction over Canadian laws, and Canada isn't going to change them to accommodate athletes. Whether you (or anyone else) believe it makes sense or not is irrelevant.

Mike

[mef730]

Probably going to be a moot point.  Narrow needle to thread to get to the 4 seed. 

Then you wouldn't have to worry about it until a potential conference finals matchup which would be pretty unlikely.

Agree on the moot point. Stevens and Udoka must know who is vaccinated, so if it looks like a risk that they have to play Toronto, you'd think that they will go for the win in Memphis and start everyone, while Memphis rests its starters.

Mike

[KeepBigAl]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

Well, it's just what you said. The NBA has no jurisdiction over Canadian laws, and Canada isn't going to change them to accommodate athletes. Whether you (or anyone else) believe it makes sense or not is irrelevant.

Mike

Agreed - but everything you've ever discussed here (trades, lineups, etc) is also totally irrelevant - but we still post our opinions.   The NHL issue is certainly a good one, but having this out of balance for one team is a bad look for the NBA, not to mention a bad precedent.  We all know the NBA obviously does not have jurisdiction over Canada, but does hold financial and other sway here. I'm just hoping they made an effort, especially with zero safety upside if the 19 other teams are all mixing both vaxed and unvaxed - rendering this rule totally irrelevant.

[jambr380]

Just saw a post on basketball forever for instagram Jaylen brown and Al Horford are unvaccinated, does anyone know anymore details about this?

Playing Toronto is problematic for a lot of teams it seems.

You know basketball forever, they obviously have all of the inside sources on the Celtics and their vaccination status.

I find this whole thing extremely bizarre. How can anybody still think that Jaylen and Al are unvaccinated? It would be such a huge scandal based on their and the team's answers to these questions. Never mind the fact that they would likely be facing charges from Canadian authorities for breaking protocol in November at the team dinner.

Either way, it looks unlikely that we will ever find out, but I am just surprised people are buying the hype.

[Moranis]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

Well, it's just what you said. The NBA has no jurisdiction over Canadian laws, and Canada isn't going to change them to accommodate athletes. Whether you (or anyone else) believe it makes sense or not is irrelevant.

Mike

Agreed - but everything you've ever discussed here (trades, lineups, etc) is also totally irrelevant - but we still post our opinions.   The NHL issue is certainly a good one, but having this out of balance for one team is a bad look for the NBA, not to mention a bad precedent.  We all know the NBA obviously does not have jurisdiction over Canada, but does hold financial and other sway here. I'm just hoping they made an effort, especially with zero safety upside if the 19 other teams are all mixing both vaxed and unvaxed - rendering this rule totally irrelevant.

or just get vaccinated

[KeepBigAl]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

Well, it's just what you said. The NBA has no jurisdiction over Canadian laws, and Canada isn't going to change them to accommodate athletes. Whether you (or anyone else) believe it makes sense or not is irrelevant.

Mike

Agreed - but everything you've ever discussed here (trades, lineups, etc) is also totally irrelevant - but we still post our opinions.   The NHL issue is certainly a good one, but having this out of balance for one team is a bad look for the NBA, not to mention a bad precedent.  We all know the NBA obviously does not have jurisdiction over Canada, but does hold financial and other sway here. I'm just hoping they made an effort, especially with zero safety upside if the 19 other teams are all mixing both vaxed and unvaxed - rendering this rule totally irrelevant.

or just get vaccinated

Yes - we all know that solves it for an individual, but the rule remains out of balance. 

If this is really about safety, have players test before departure, and daily when in Toronto. If you want to play it further, ask unvaxed to quarantine when not at games/practice.  Tests aren't perfect, but are a substantially better indicator of current infection status vs just having been vaccinated at some point in the past.   The NBA should be pushing for these types of exceptions to bring fairness to their playoffs.

[gift]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

Well, it's just what you said. The NBA has no jurisdiction over Canadian laws, and Canada isn't going to change them to accommodate athletes. Whether you (or anyone else) believe it makes sense or not is irrelevant.

Mike

 I'm just hoping they made an effort, especially with zero safety upside if the 19 other teams are all mixing both vaxed and unvaxed - rendering this rule totally irrelevant.

Don't act like the policy is an arbitrary thing that can be dismissed just because its effects are infinitesimal. Being unvaccinated is the only arbitrary variable in this scenario because its effects on others are infinitesimal. 

[angryguy77]

If Canada had no laws against PED's or drugs, do we think the NBA would allow that? They would take action to ensure the whole league is on an even playing field.

As I stated in another thread, teams in places with mandatory vaccines should be told they have to play at a neutral site with no mandates for their home games.

Problem solved.

[jbpats]

Would folks rather take the 2 seed with a chance (almost guarantee) to play Brooklyn at full strength or risk losing out and taking the 4 seed to play Toronto without Jaylen and Horford for half the series?
I almost feel like the Nets are the lesser of two evils here

[angryguy77]

I know it's a tough spot with the national law - but completely ridiculous that we are having to deal/strategize around this. What kind of safety upside is there by having this rule in place in only ONE city?  Not sure if they could have done more, but the NBA should have pressured hard to get some form of exception here.  Totally unfair and accomplishes nothing.

It's also US law going the other way, I think.  So, it's hard to grant an exemption if you're not going to go the other way.

And, if the NBA got an exemption, the NHL would undoubtedly want one as well. 

I don't have a lot of sympathy.  Get the shot.

In the past three weeks these people have all tested positive for Covid...


Hillary Clinton
Jen Psaki
Kamala's husband
Adam Schiff
Merrick Garland
Mayor Bowser
Nancy Pelosi


All have had the shot. Can we stop the charade and allow people to make their own healthcare decisions. Unless you can 100% gurantee there will be no adverse side effects to these athletes, no one should be forced to have to decide to potentially put their health at risk to avoid contracting a virus that does not put guys in this demographic at risk.

The shot works or it doesn't. If it does, then those that get it should be fine right?

[Celtics2021]

If Canada had no laws against PED's or drugs, do we think the NBA would allow that? They would take action to ensure the whole league is on an even playing field.

As I stated in another thread, teams in places with mandatory vaccines should be told they have to play at a neutral site with no mandates for their home games.

Problem solved.

Players should just get vaccinated.  Problem solved.