What’s up with JB?

[Goldstar88]

Last 5 games he’s averaging 17.6pts, 3.4reb, 3.8ast while shooting 28% from 3pt and 64.7% from the line. I’m sure his ankle is still not 100%, but for some reason he just doesn’t look engaged out there at times on both ends.

Tatum is getting all of the attention right now, but this team goes as far as JT AND JB take them. If Jaylen doesn’t play at an all star level come playoff time, this team isn’t going to be able to make a deep run. Hopefully he snaps out of it soon.

[bdm860]

Last 5 games include his 2 minutes vs Atlanta.  Last 5 games:

2/26: 27 points, 1/6 from 3
2/27: 23 points, 2/5 from 3
3/1: 2 points, 0/0 from 3
3/6: 21 points, 3/6 from 3
3/9: 15 points, 1/8 from 3

This doesn't look like anything to worry about to me.

[smokeablount]

At times he looks like our worst starter. He is the worst defender and passer in our starting lineup and he’s probably the worst free throw shooter accounting for position. He is the sloppiest as well. We are getting similar results whether he plays or not and he should be a big difference maker for this team, but he hasn’t been.

[wikkid1]

At times he looks like our worst starter. He is the worst defender and passer in our starting lineup and he’s probably the worst free throw shooter accounting for position. He is the sloppiest as well. We are getting similar results whether he plays or not and he should be a big difference maker for this team, but he hasn’t been.

This.  I love JB but he seems to be a turnover machine as of late, especially the last game against Charlotte.  The handle doesn’t seem to be there.

[Phantom255x]

I'm personally not too worried. I think his ankle may still be bothering him. He did seem to come back quickly after the injury happened, I was surprised he played the BKN game. Also, with Tatum leading the charge over the past week JB hasn't had to do too much. Of course, ideally he can heat up again right before the playoffs and stay healthy

[Moranis]

Obviously you skew the numbers significantly if you include a 2 minute game, but that said, Brown is banged up a bit.  The team though goes as Tatum goes and always has.  Tatum is the guy the team needs to be playing.  Brown is almost irrelevant to Boston's record.

[jambr380]

Last 5 games include his 2 minutes vs Atlanta.  Last 5 games:

2/26: 27 points, 1/6 from 3
2/27: 23 points, 2/5 from 3
3/1: 2 points, 0/0 from 3
3/6: 21 points, 3/6 from 3
3/9: 15 points, 1/8 from 3

This doesn't look like anything to worry about to me.

The OP missed an opportunity to paint a real negative picture of Brown. In his last three games, he has only averaged 12.6ppg. That is unacceptable from a supposed all-star /s

[Celtics2021]

At times he looks like our worst starter. He is the worst defender and passer in our starting lineup and he’s probably the worst free throw shooter accounting for position. He is the sloppiest as well. We are getting similar results whether he plays or not and he should be a big difference maker for this team, but he hasn’t been.

The C’s are 7-8 without Jaylen and 33-19 with him.  He matters, and having Jaylen at 90% because of his ankle is still much better than not having him at all.  The team is as a whole playing better, and Tatum is playing lights out, which makes JB a matter a bit less right now, but the only thing wrong with him is that he’s a little limited in his explosion/agility, but not so much that he can’t play or risks further injury.

Man the things we are able to worry about on this site.  Our #2 player who suffered what looked to be a bad ankle injury only 8 days ago missed one game and has only averaged 18/5/5 with a 2:1 assist-to-turnover ratio.  The horror.

[Celtics2021]

Obviously you skew the numbers significantly if you include a 2 minute game, but that said, Brown is banged up a bit.  The team though goes as Tatum goes and always has.  Tatum is the guy the team needs to be playing.  Brown is almost irrelevant to Boston's record.

The Celtics have a .467 winning percentage in 15 games without Jaylen this year and a .635 winning percentage with him.

[Moranis]

Obviously you skew the numbers significantly if you include a 2 minute game, but that said, Brown is banged up a bit.  The team though goes as Tatum goes and always has.  Tatum is the guy the team needs to be playing.  Brown is almost irrelevant to Boston's record.

The Celtics have a .467 winning percentage in 15 games without Jaylen this year and a .635 winning percentage with him.

Your numbers are wrong, the C's are 8-7 without Jaylen playing at all and also won the 3 minute game, so are really 9-7 (56.25%) without him.  They are 31-20 (62.0%) with him playing a full game, which is obviously better, but not nearly as much as you might imagine.  And it was the Western Road trip in early December that really skew the numbers as Boston went 1-4 on that trip all without Brown (that was the 5 games in 8 nights with 2 separate back-to-backs). 

[Jiri Welsch]

To answer the title of this post: He got injured and is playing through it.

[Celtics2021]

Obviously you skew the numbers significantly if you include a 2 minute game, but that said, Brown is banged up a bit.  The team though goes as Tatum goes and always has.  Tatum is the guy the team needs to be playing.  Brown is almost irrelevant to Boston's record.

The Celtics have a .467 winning percentage in 15 games without Jaylen this year and a .635 winning percentage with him.

Your numbers are wrong, the C's are 8-7 without Jaylen playing at all and also won the 3 minute game, so are really 9-7 (56.25%) without him.  They are 31-20 (62.0%) with him playing a full game, which is obviously better, but not nearly as much as you might imagine.  And it was the Western Road trip in early December that really skew the numbers as Boston went 1-4 on that trip all without Brown (that was the 5 games in 8 nights with 2 separate back-to-backs).

I counted and have now recounted 7-8.  Going through the schedule maybe I mistallied, but I don't think I did, and I recommend you count again.  And I'm not sure how the West Coast trip skewed anything -- having Brown for those games might mean the C's would have won 1-2 more of them, particularly one of the games in LA, which is exactly my point that he does matter. 

So I'll use your accounting method with regards to giving him no credit vs. Atlanta.  That's .500 compared to .627, which is the difference between 8th place and 2nd place in the East.  That's a really big difference, and with Jaylen having missed 16 games, it's not merely small sample size.

Tatum is more important, I'm not arguing that.  But that doesn't mean Brown is unimportant.

[Goldstar88]

Last 5 games include his 2 minutes vs Atlanta.  Last 5 games:

2/26: 27 points, 1/6 from 3
2/27: 23 points, 2/5 from 3
3/1: 2 points, 0/0 from 3
3/6: 21 points, 3/6 from 3
3/9: 15 points, 1/8 from 3

This doesn't look like anything to worry about to me.

The OP missed an opportunity to paint a real negative picture of Brown. In his last three games, he has only averaged 12.6ppg. That is unacceptable from a supposed all-star /s

An opportunity? Does he look right to you. Imo, he hasn’t looked right since going into the all star break.

[showtime]

At times he looks like our worst starter. He is the worst defender and passer in our starting lineup and he’s probably the worst free throw shooter accounting for position. He is the sloppiest as well. We are getting similar results whether he plays or not and he should be a big difference maker for this team, but he hasn’t been.

And that's why I'd trade him to Atlanta for Collins, in the off season!

[ETNCeltics]

Last 5 games he’s averaging 17.6pts, 3.4reb, 3.8ast while shooting 28% from 3pt and 64.7% from the line. I’m sure his ankle is still not 100%, but for some reason he just doesn’t look engaged out there at times on both ends.

Tatum is getting all of the attention right now, but this team goes as far as JT AND JB take them. If Jaylen doesn’t play at an all star level come playoff time, this team isn’t going to be able to make a deep run. Hopefully he snaps out of it soon.

That's kind of silly to put the #s out that way. Excluding the game he got hurt and only played a few minutes, he's averaging 22/gm, on 47% shooting, slightly above his season shooting avg, and right at his career avg. 

JB hit the most important bucket to put the Nets away. I don't think he's disengaged. He's a good player and an important player, but we can win without Brown having big games.

The team goes as far as Tatum takes them. He's on a different level from Brown. We can beat anyone with Tatum on the floor. If he's not the floor, we're just hanging on.