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Nesmith over Bane because of Arm length
« on: March 04, 2022, 11:23:44 PM »

Offline KG Living Legend

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 We all know Danny's obsession with Wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan.  While Bane is 6'6" with a dreaded 6'4" wingspan.

 If its close between two players Ainge goes with wingspan ten times out of ten.  I have a side theory that the best shooters in nba history typically have normal wingspans or slightly longer than their height.

 That's why Durant is such a freak of nature.  Anyway we took Nesmith over Bane because if arm length.  Change my mind.

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2022, 11:36:18 PM »

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 We all know Danny's obsession with Wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan.  While Bane is 6'6" with a dreaded 6'4" wingspan.

 If its close between two players Ainge goes with wingspan ten times out of ten.  I have a side theory that the best shooters in nba history typically have normal wingspans or slightly longer than their height.

 That's why Durant is such a freak of nature.  Anyway we took Nesmith over Bane because if arm length.  Change my mind.
There is an entire thread dedicated to Bane with Liam screaming his name in about 100 posts in the thread. Do we really have to rehash this again...two years later?

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2022, 11:51:39 PM »

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 We all know Danny's obsession with Wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan.  While Bane is 6'6" with a dreaded 6'4" wingspan.

 If its close between two players Ainge goes with wingspan ten times out of ten.  I have a side theory that the best shooters in nba history typically have normal wingspans or slightly longer than their height.

 That's why Durant is such a freak of nature.  Anyway we took Nesmith over Bane because if arm length.  Change my mind.
There is an entire thread dedicated to Bane with Liam screaming his name in about 100 posts in the thread. Do we really have to rehash this again...two years later?



 Yes. It makes me vomit that we have to start Nesmith with Brown down.  Now Nesmith suffered a bad injury and we are left with Stauskas?

 Long arms not always the smartest move.  Especially since Bane is built like a linebacker.

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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2022, 11:58:26 PM »

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Maybe you should start a "Ainge only likes short armed bigs and lost out on Giannis because of it" thread. That's fairly recent. Only 9 years old. Definitely fair game to bring up again.

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2022, 12:34:11 AM »

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 We all know Danny's obsession with Wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan.  While Bane is 6'6" with a dreaded 6'4" wingspan.

 If its close between two players Ainge goes with wingspan ten times out of ten.  I have a side theory that the best shooters in nba history typically have normal wingspans or slightly longer than their height.

 That's why Durant is such a freak of nature.  Anyway we took Nesmith over Bane because if arm length.  Change my mind.
There is an entire thread dedicated to Bane with Liam screaming his name in about 100 posts in the thread. Do we really have to rehash this again...two years later?



 Yes. It makes me vomit that we have to start Nesmith with Brown down.  Now Nesmith suffered a bad injury and we are left with Stauskas?

 Long arms not always the smartest move.  Especially since Bane is built like a linebacker.
You vomit over Bane?  He's just a regular dude.  I mean, a fine player but nothing to invest too much energy over.

Anyway, to answer your question, Bane vs Nesmith was never even a thing.  When Nesmith was picked, Bane wasn't even a consideration.  And the only reason Bane was picked by the Celts was to be traded.  Who cares?  We may have missed on Nesmith and that sucks, but it's not some franchise altering thing.

Even looking back, you can see why someone like Nesmith gets picked over Bane.  Much bouncier athlete with much for potential on both sides on the ball.  Bane looks like a football player and moves like an offensive lineman.

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2022, 02:23:23 AM »

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 We all know Danny's obsession with Wingspan.  Nesmith is 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan.  While Bane is 6'6" with a dreaded 6'4" wingspan.

 If its close between two players Ainge goes with wingspan ten times out of ten.  I have a side theory that the best shooters in nba history typically have normal wingspans or slightly longer than their height.

 That's why Durant is such a freak of nature.  Anyway we took Nesmith over Bane because if arm length.  Change my mind.
There is an entire thread dedicated to Bane with Liam screaming his name in about 100 posts in the thread. Do we really have to rehash this again...two years later?



 Yes. It makes me vomit that we have to start Nesmith with Brown down.  Now Nesmith suffered a bad injury and we are left with Stauskas?

 Long arms not always the smartest move.  Especially since Bane is built like a linebacker.
You vomit over Bane?  He's just a regular dude.  I mean, a fine player but nothing to invest too much energy over.

Anyway, to answer your question, Bane vs Nesmith was never even a thing.  When Nesmith was picked, Bane wasn't even a consideration.  And the only reason Bane was picked by the Celts was to be traded.  Who cares?  We may have missed on Nesmith and that sucks, but it's not some franchise altering thing.

Even looking back, you can see why someone like Nesmith gets picked over Bane.  Much bouncier athlete with much for potential on both sides on the ball.  Bane looks like a football player and moves like an offensive lineman.


 Totally wrong take. All these misses hurt our depth badly. I advocated to trade all 3 picks for Haliburton. Nesmith Bust. Prichard Bust. Trade Bane for two seconds Bust.

 We need shooting Bane is one of the best shooters in the leauge. Could have traded up for Hero, drafted Romeo. Bust.

 Thank God Grant has made a leap or we would be really in trouble.

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2022, 03:12:28 AM »

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The idea that arm length was THE criterion that drove the Nesmith selection seems very unlikely given the consensus at the time was that the younger and taller Nesmith had the better future. Nesmith was projected as a lottery pick according to the NBA.com mock draft consensus.

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13. Aaron Nesmith | New Orleans Pelicans

Vanderbilt | Position: F | Height: 6-6
Status: Freshman

Most Common: 12 (3)

Possibly the best shooter in the draft, one who can score off the dribble, catch-and-shoot or in transition; has the size and length to become an elite player on both ends of the floor.

https://www.nba.com/news/2020-consensus-mock-draft

Nesmith was considered a top 50 prospect coming out of high school, unlike Bane. As a  sophomore, Nesmith scored more than Bane did as a senior and shot at a higher 2FG%, 3FG%, and FT% than Bane did. 

According to Bane, he expected to be picked in the second half of the 1st round and he barely made it when the first 29 teams passed on him and the Cs only picked him to trade him.

https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2020/06/29/desmond-bane-tcu-nba-mock-draft-range-first-round-projection/

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2022, 06:40:56 AM »

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Bane will be 24 in June  and was a senior. Everyone knew he had a more NBA ready skill. Nesmith will be 23 in October.  Based on the flashes from Nesmith last year and the effort he plays with I am willing to give him time to develop before writing him off.  Nesmith was selected for his potential to develop and Bane was drafted for his existing skill. 



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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2022, 06:43:49 AM »

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Bane will be 24 in June  and was a senior. Everyone knew he had a more NBA ready skill. Nesmith will be 23 in October.  Based on the flashes from Nesmith last year and the effort he plays with I am willing to give him time to develop before writing him off.  Nesmith was selected for his potential to develop and Bane was drafted for his existing skill.

I haven't given up on Nesmith but he was also supposed to be NBA ready with skills supposedly being transferrable

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What about the 3-4 players taken right after Nesmith who are WAY better players than Nesmith? Like actual NBA players — in some cases quite good ones — where Nesmith is simply not?

In his waning years,Ainge’s lazy college scouting combined with short term roster management influences over focusing on talent accrual really hurt this team.

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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2022, 09:23:25 AM »

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Complaining about Ainge’s misses while you root for a team whose top four players are Brown, Tatum, Smart, and R Williams is rich.

I’m sorry that Ainge was not a perfect drafter.

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« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2022, 09:47:48 AM »

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Complaining about Ainge’s misses while you root for a team whose top four players are Brown, Tatum, Smart, and R Williams is rich.

I’m sorry that Ainge was not a perfect drafter.
Exactly.  Can you imagine picking fultz (or even Ball) over Tatum?  What about Chriss, hield, or that euro dude over brown?  Or the fact that rob, Grant Williams, and PP in the 20’s? 

Some people want ainge to be perfect.  It’s unrealistic.  There’s always going to be guys picked later that are better.  That’s the way it goes.

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Complaining about Ainge’s misses while you root for a team whose top four players are Brown, Tatum, Smart, and R Williams is rich.

I’m sorry that Ainge was not a perfect drafter.

You might as well add Grant Williams in there, too, who is looking to be a great value pick at #22.

Yes, Ainge may have missed on some mid-1sts, but we only had those mid-1sts because he so badly ripped off other teams in trades. Would anybody be batting an eye if we had taken Tatum #1 and not had the Romeo pick? What if all we got in 2015 for Jeff Green was a 2nd instead of the Nesmith pick? Don't like James Young? No worries, we got Tatum and Brown (and Kyrie) using the other picks from BKN.

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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2022, 10:09:03 AM »

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Just for poops and giggles, let's look at the last 10 years of Ainge's drafting in baseball terms:

Fab Melo - Strikeout on 3 pitches. Never swung the bat
Jared Sullinger - Double, could've been a triple, couldn't leg it out
Marcus Smart - Triple
James Young - First pitch ball, strikeout on four pitches
Terry Rozier - Single, caught stealing
RJ Hunter - Popout to shallow left
Jaylen Brown - Two-run HR
Guerschon Yabusele - Reached first due to error on pop fly, somehow stole 2nd, stranded there
Ante Zizic - Groundout to short
Jayson Tatum - Grand slam
Robert Williams - Triple, could potentially steal home
Romeo Langford - Single; pinch-run for by Derrick White
Grant Williams - Single misplayed by centerfielder, scored a double
Aaron Nesmith - On deck
Peyton Prichard - At bat

So according to my logic, in his last 10 drafts he went 8/13, with one out in the 9th and Prichard and Nesmith up next. Pretty productive if you ask me.

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Just for poops and giggles, let's look at the last 10 years of Ainge's drafting in baseball terms:

Fab Melo - Strikeout on 3 pitches. Never swung the bat
Jared Sullinger - Double, could've been a triple, couldn't leg it out
Marcus Smart - Triple
James Young - First pitch ball, strikeout on four pitches
Terry Rozier - Single, caught stealing
RJ Hunter - Popout to shallow left
Jaylen Brown - Two-run HR
Guerschon Yabusele - Reached first due to error on pop fly, somehow stole 2nd, stranded there
Ante Zizic - Groundout to short
Jayson Tatum - Grand slam
Robert Williams - Triple, could potentially steal home
Romeo Langford - Single; pinch-run for by Derrick White
Grant Williams - Single misplayed by centerfielder, scored a double
Aaron Nesmith - On deck
Peyton Prichard - At bat

So according to my logic, in his last 10 drafts he went 8/13, with one out in the 9th and Prichard and Nesmith up next. Pretty productive if you ask me.
Terry Rozier, for where he was picked and the blowback he got, was a home run.