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Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #285 on: February 25, 2022, 07:23:31 AM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #286 on: February 25, 2022, 08:44:55 AM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.
sure, everyone wants a better player on the roster -- the question is who was available that would have signed here and provided solid minutes when they were on the court?  I look at who was bought out and there's no one that jumps out at me as "we better get them"

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #287 on: February 25, 2022, 10:18:44 AM »

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Underlooked nugget from last night's game:

Jaylen Brown continues to make great progress as a playmaker.  He had 6 assists on one turnover last night.  Including a few beautiful dishes. This got lost in the trouncing, and the fact that he "only" had 18 points.  He had an excellent game.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #288 on: February 25, 2022, 10:19:17 AM »

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I couldn't watch the game live after the 1st so I finished it today.  They spent more time talking about the Nets then the game or the celtics combined.  Why even put the C's on national TV if you are going to deep throat the Nets all [dang] night.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #289 on: February 25, 2022, 10:21:27 AM »

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I couldn't watch the game live after the 1st so I finished it today.  They spent more time talking about the Nets then the game or the celtics combined.  Why even put the C's on national TV if you are going to deep throat the Nets all [dang] night.
my complaint about all Celtic broadcasts on TNT exactly.  they're always ignoring the C's and playing up anything having to do with the other team.  The Philly game was the same way

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« Reply #290 on: February 25, 2022, 10:28:23 AM »

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I couldn't watch the game live after the 1st so I finished it today.  They spent more time talking about the Nets then the game or the celtics combined.  Why even put the C's on national TV if you are going to deep throat the Nets all [dang] night.

Ian Eagle of TNT is also the Nets play by play guy on their local telecasts so it's not a surprise. 


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Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #291 on: February 25, 2022, 10:32:24 AM »

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I did not hear anything about Boston this morning.  It’s like they don’t even exist. 

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #292 on: February 25, 2022, 10:42:50 AM »

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I did not hear anything about Boston this morning.  It’s like they don’t even exist.
They beat the "New Jersey" Nets not news worthy till the full "Brooklyn" team is out there.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #293 on: February 25, 2022, 11:18:44 AM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.
sure, everyone wants a better player on the roster -- the question is who was available that would have signed here and provided solid minutes when they were on the court?  I look at who was bought out and there's no one that jumps out at me as "we better get them"

James Ennis or Abdel Nadar would be better options for backup wings. They are legitimate NBA players and both can shoot the 3 ball at a decent clip. I’d prefer Moses Brown over Kornet. Least Moses can rebound the ball and block shots. He’s young too and has upside.
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Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #294 on: February 25, 2022, 11:30:06 AM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.
sure, everyone wants a better player on the roster -- the question is who was available that would have signed here and provided solid minutes when they were on the court?  I look at who was bought out and there's no one that jumps out at me as "we better get them"

James Ennis or Abdel Nadar would be better options for backup wings. They are legitimate NBA players and both can shoot the 3 ball at a decent clip. I’d prefer Moses Brown over Kornet. Least Moses can rebound the ball and block shots. He’s young, too and has upside.

OKC - which is built to give playing time to promising young talent while they lose - tossed Moses Brown overboard in a salary dump. He’s been on, I think 5 teams in two years. He’s not ready to give them anything this year - and I’m skeptical he’ll be an NBA player. He had a great half against the Cs, which ppl remember. They forget he did very little the rest of that game and hasn’t been good otherwise. As a fourth-string emergency center I’ll take Kornet for now, and a buyout or vet min player if available.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #295 on: February 25, 2022, 11:58:51 AM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.

I think the rotation is starters plus White, GWill, and Pritchard.

I get that the confidence in Nesmith is still not there but I was surprised that Theis was not used until garbage time.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #296 on: February 25, 2022, 12:29:55 PM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.

I think the rotation is starters plus White, GWill, and Pritchard.

I get that the confidence in Nesmith is still not there but I was surprised that Theis was not used until garbage time.

Ime doesnt know Theis. He's an insurance policy for our two..um...delicate starting bigs,4th big in what has been a 3 big rotation.

But, yeah would be good to get Theis comfy in the mix to help rest RWill and Horford.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #297 on: February 25, 2022, 12:34:24 PM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.

I think the rotation is starters plus White, GWill, and Pritchard.

I get that the confidence in Nesmith is still not there but I was surprised that Theis was not used until garbage time.

I think it’ll depend on the opponent who’s 8th between Theis and Pritchard.  I’d expect Theis to be higher in the rotation than Pritchard against teams like Cleveland who go with two bigs, or even against Brooklyn when Simmons has returned.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #298 on: February 25, 2022, 12:35:40 PM »

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7 man rotation looked good... outside of that, not so much. Wish we had legit NBA players instead of guys like Hauser and Kornet. Thomas looked ok. Nesmith and Pritchard are still not there and then we add two wings that can’t shoot. Yeesh.
Some serious nitpicking there. Two games ago every bench player looked like an All-Star during garbage time.
Naw, I think it’s fair criticism.  Kornet is really bad. Almost like Brad purposely avoided adding real NBA players, maybe he’s savings donuts for the buyout market.
No it's not. In this game PP looked okay during non-garbage time. Thomas played really well in garbage time the last few times he has been out there. Nesmith played well tonight and his shot is starting to drop. Theis is a grizzled, proven playoff rotation vet.

You don't need much more than a 7-8 man rotation come the playoffs. They have 8 and if either Nesmith or Pritchard step up, they have 9.

The rest don't matter come playoff time. And Brad sacrificed the bench this year to have his top 7-8 next year with the ability to add some bench depth this summer through trading Horford, trading someone into a TPE, free agency and player development.
The criticism is fair.  First of all, you need 8 rotation players in the playoffs, not 7, but in any vase, those 8 are going to have a lot of miles on them the way Ime is playing a shortened rotation now.  It would have been helpful if Brad had added one more vet instead of Kornet or Hauser or the 2 wings.

I think the rotation is starters plus White, GWill, and Pritchard.

I get that the confidence in Nesmith is still not there but I was surprised that Theis was not used until garbage time.

Ime doesnt know Theis. He's an insurance policy for our two..um...delicate starting bigs,4th big in what has been a 3 big rotation.

But, yeah would be good to get Theis comfy in the mix to help rest RWill and Horford.
I think Theis becomes a regular rotation guy by season's end.

Re: Celtics (34-26) at Nets (31-28) Game #61 2/24/22
« Reply #299 on: February 25, 2022, 04:20:21 PM »

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Underlooked nugget from last night's game:

Jaylen Brown continues to make great progress as a playmaker.  He had 6 assists on one turnover last night.  Including a few beautiful dishes. This got lost in the trouncing, and the fact that he "only" had 18 points.  He had an excellent game.
He makes really concrete improvements every season. Over February he's averaging close to 5APG. Really great development for his game, and if both he and Tatum can sustain averaging ~5APG like they have over February it really addresses the lack of playmaking we had to start the season. Add in Smart, Horford, Timelord & White and you've got a bunch of willing and able passers.
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