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Re: DW player comparison?
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2022, 12:42:45 AM »

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Reminds me of a slightly worse shooting Josh Richardson.
I take it you’ve not ever seen him play?

If White finds his jumper he’s Danny Ainge 2.0

I was mostly joking, but I do feel like we gave up too much for him. I would be very happy to be wrong and have Danny ainge 2.0

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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2022, 12:55:03 AM »

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Reminds me of a slightly worse shooting Josh Richardson.
I take it you’ve not ever seen him play?

If White finds his jumper he’s Danny Ainge 2.0

I was mostly joking, but I do feel like we gave up too much for him. I would be very happy to be wrong and have Danny ainge 2.0
I agree that it was an overpay. The 2028 swap seems like a completely unnecessary risk to me
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2022, 01:02:01 AM »

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White is fine but between him and Richardson is a wash, and we gave up a bunch to get him. I don't think Theis is going to be that useful when push comes to shove considering he is shooting career lows from the field and 3pt% so we gave up 2 and a half pieces to get one. We got thinner and worse at shooting
Him and Richardson are not at all a wash

To be honest, their games are not even nearly similar either. White seems much more oriented to playmaking for himself and others than Richardson.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2022, 01:28:17 AM »

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White is fine but between him and Richardson is a wash, and we gave up a bunch to get him. I don't think Theis is going to be that useful when push comes to shove considering he is shooting career lows from the field and 3pt% so we gave up 2 and a half pieces to get one. We got thinner and worse at shooting
Him and Richardson are not at all a wash

To be honest, their games are not even nearly similar either. White seems much more oriented to playmaking for himself and others than Richardson.
A wash in terms of value, not playing style obviously. They are very different players

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2022, 01:37:03 AM »

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My point being that White is not better enough than Richardson to warrant adding Romeo +2 first round picks, that sounds kinda crazy. Unfortunately I'm not able to live in the parallel universe where that's not an overpay

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2022, 02:17:10 AM »

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White is fine but between him and Richardson is a wash, and we gave up a bunch to get him. I don't think Theis is going to be that useful when push comes to shove considering he is shooting career lows from the field and 3pt% so we gave up 2 and a half pieces to get one. We got thinner and worse at shooting
Him and Richardson are not at all a wash

To be honest, their games are not even nearly similar either. White seems much more oriented to playmaking for himself and others than Richardson.
A wash in terms of value, not playing style obviously. They are very different players
A wash in terms of value is just as wrong. The difference is significant - however, the difference is not a first round pick, a pick swap and a young prospect.
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2022, 02:21:45 AM »

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My point being that White is not better enough than Richardson to warrant adding Romeo +2 first round picks, that sounds kinda crazy. Unfortunately I'm not able to live in the parallel universe where that's not an overpay

While I agree they are similar players in overall skill, I think the upside of White is more in his fit with the team. His shooting/ facilitating may have a bigger impact vs what Richardson’s offensive game provided, along with his similar level D to Richardson.

Some of the best trades of all time were good players for less or equally good players with a more valuable skill set for the team’s particular needs. I think it’s a worthy gamble for where this team currently stands to bring in a hard working 2-way facilitator.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2022, 03:51:13 AM »

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My point being that White is not better enough than Richardson to warrant adding Romeo +2 first round picks, that sounds kinda crazy. Unfortunately I'm not able to live in the parallel universe where that's not an overpay

Not better enough is an acknowledgment of better.  So White is different and better.  It’s just you don’t like the package. If White does what he did v. Denver on a nightly basis then I think it was worth it considering the swap may be insignificant and Romeo will be replaced by a buyout who will be better. If he stays healthy Romeo will be a decent rotation player I think — he’ll get time and will  put up much better numbers in SAS but I don’t mind losing him. The 1st is the piece I hate to give up but we’ll see over the next few weeks just how much a difference White makes. He’s also in Cs control for a while and will be an attractive piece in package for a 3rd star if.opportunity arises.

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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2022, 04:24:43 AM »

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A quicker, more athletic Sam Cassell. Sam was the bettrr playmaker and shooter though.

Both possess, in several situations, the uncanny way of changing the tempo of the game.

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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2022, 05:01:26 AM »

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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2022, 05:06:18 AM »

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Dennis Johnson. Relatively slow playmaker who can defend and hit open shots but not shoot the lights out.

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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2022, 05:09:45 AM »

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Kinda feels like the George Hill trade here. Doubt Romeo becomes like Kawhii, but he will probably be maximized under the Spurs.

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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2022, 05:30:36 AM »

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Kinda feels like the George Hill trade here. Doubt Romeo becomes like Kawhii, but he will probably be maximized under the Spurs.
Doubt the Spurs play Romeo any more than C's. He is even more buried by the Spurs depth than he was here. Spurs have four guys that are all playable in front of Romeo at the 2/3.

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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2022, 06:03:15 AM »

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White is fine but between him and Richardson is a wash, and we gave up a bunch to get him. I don't think Theis is going to be that useful when push comes to shove considering he is shooting career lows from the field and 3pt% so we gave up 2 and a half pieces to get one. We got thinner and worse at shooting
Him and Richardson are not at all a wash

To be honest, their games are not even nearly similar either. White seems much more oriented to playmaking for himself and others than Richardson.
A wash in terms of value, not playing style obviously. They are very different players
A wash in terms of value is just as wrong. The difference is significant - however, the difference is not a first round pick, a pick swap and a young prospect.

You also have to factor in contract status. We have White locked in for another 3.5 years verses 1.5 for Richardson on a reasonable deal. The pick this year will most likely be in the 20’s in a weaker draft. I was hoping for a little bit of a breakout season from Romeo getting over his injuries, but aside from a handful of good games it never happened. I used to think his upside was more, but probably a minuscule chance he’s ever as good as White. I don’t think we gave up a Joe Johnson here, not a big loss. Who knows what will happen with the pick swap.

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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2022, 07:03:55 AM »

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My point being that White is not better enough than Richardson to warrant adding Romeo +2 first round picks, that sounds kinda crazy. Unfortunately I'm not able to live in the parallel universe where that's not an overpay
Please explain why you feel this way, other than “I like him better”.

And it’s not two first round picks. It’s one and the right to swap.