Celtics trade grades?

[MickaelPietrus]

Guy has to stop shooting at this point. Embarassing tonight. Pull a Ben Simmons. Save us from this aberration

[MickaelPietrus]

Can you believe we gave up a 1st a swap, a shot maker and a prospect for this ****. 

[gouki88]

Can you believe we gave up a 1st a swap, a shot maker and a prospect for this ****.

Yes, because Richardson is completely mediocre and Romeo's prospects are of being a bench-warmer.

[MickaelPietrus]

Can you believe we gave up a 1st a swap, a shot maker and a prospect for this ****.

Yes, because Richardson is completely mediocre and Romeo's prospects are of being a bench-warmer.

That's where we disagree. Let me make this clear, I don't think White is a terrible player. He is smart and great defensively. I would have loved having him if we kept JRich and got away with giving Romeo + picks for him. Considering what we gave up though, I really don't understand the trade, and never will. We need shotmakers of the bench. The ball is going to be on JT, JB and Smart's hands a lot and even more so during playoff time

[MickaelPietrus]

Or if somehow we managed to give away Schroder instead of Richardson for him. Schroder in my eyes was def addition by subtraction. Richardson, as mediocre as you may argue he was, at least provided a quality we desperately need : shot making. And we will need it even MORE come playoff time, the issue should become more glaring. Tbh White would look a lot better with JRich out there in the 2nd unit with Pritch as both would be willing shooters to compensate for him

[todd_days_41]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. We’re paying him $9MM in 23-24. Ouch.

White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th. He’s expensive and we overpaid for him.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

[gouki88]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

[Birdman]

Right now the 2 trades don’t look to good but plenty of time for them..white still learning the system

[todd_days_41]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

So far, White isn’t a significant upgrade over anyone anywhere. And blaming Ime for Theis not being an NBA rotation player is a reach. The guy didn’t play on the Houston G-League team. It’s 100% on Stevens. He bailed Houston out, plain and simple.

[gouki88]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

So far, White isn’t a significant upgrade over anyone anywhere. And blaming Ime for Theis not being an NBA rotation player is a reach. The guy didn’t play on the Houston G-League team. It’s 100% on Stevens. He bailed Houston out, plain and simple.

He was playing 22.5MPG in Houston and started most games he played. My understanding was that he was getting pretty decent minutes when he was healthy.

Also, White's defence and playmaking have both been significantly better than anything we were getting from any of the guys we shipped out.

[MickaelPietrus]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

So far, White isn’t a significant upgrade over anyone anywhere. And blaming Ime for Theis not being an NBA rotation player is a reach. The guy didn’t play on the Houston G-League team. It’s 100% on Stevens. He bailed Houston out, plain and simple.

Agreed. Richardson's main contribution is one the Celtics could use more of esp come playoff time: shot making. We gave up a lot, ask any Spurs fan.

[gouki88]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

So far, White isn’t a significant upgrade over anyone anywhere. And blaming Ime for Theis not being an NBA rotation player is a reach. The guy didn’t play on the Houston G-League team. It’s 100% on Stevens. He bailed Houston out, plain and simple.

Agreed. Richardson's main contribution is one the Celtics could use more of esp come playoff time: shot making. We gave up a lot, ask any Spurs fan.

Richardson has been absolutely garbage in every way besides his three point shooting since joining San Antonio. Not sure why he's getting deified like some reliable sniper when he's routinely let teams down come playoff time, particularly with his streaky shooting.

[Goldstar88]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

So far, White isn’t a significant upgrade over anyone anywhere. And blaming Ime for Theis not being an NBA rotation player is a reach. The guy didn’t play on the Houston G-League team. It’s 100% on Stevens. He bailed Houston out, plain and simple.

Agreed. Richardson's main contribution is one the Celtics could use more of esp come playoff time: shot making. We gave up a lot, ask any Spurs fan.

Richardson has been absolutely garbage in every way besides his three point shooting since joining San Antonio. Not sure why he's getting deified like some reliable sniper when he's routinely let teams down come playoff time, particularly with his streaky shooting.

These guys are basically a wash at this point, especially when White is taking and missing so many 3’s. He’s averaging over 6 shots from 3pt per game, which is ridiculous.

Josh Richardson stats per 36 in SA: 12.7pts, 4.4reb, 4.0ast, 1blk, FG:36.2%, 3PT:43.5%, FT:90%

Derrick White stats per 36 in BOS: 15.5pts, 4.6reb, 4.3ast, 1.5blk, FG:42.3%, 3PT:26.4%, FT:83.9%

[MickaelPietrus]

I do think objectivity may be somewhat in question when 42 folks gave Stevens a B on his rookie trade deadline. That’s one green tinted lens the crew seems to be looking thru…

Daniel Theis is not an NBA rotation player. Wasn’t on the Rockets, isn’t on the Cs. White? 22 mins, 5 points tonite. He really doesn’t bring anything the Cs lacked before Feb 10th.

Both the Rockets and Spurs are thrilled with the deals they got.

I was one of those who voted D, mainly because of the picks, but I think White is a significant upgrade over anyone we sent out for the kind of identity we're trying to build.

His shot is concerning. Ime not wanting to play Theis is his decision, not Brad's.

So far, White isn’t a significant upgrade over anyone anywhere. And blaming Ime for Theis not being an NBA rotation player is a reach. The guy didn’t play on the Houston G-League team. It’s 100% on Stevens. He bailed Houston out, plain and simple.

Agreed. Richardson's main contribution is one the Celtics could use more of esp come playoff time: shot making. We gave up a lot, ask any Spurs fan.

Richardson has been absolutely garbage in every way besides his three point shooting since joining San Antonio. Not sure why he's getting deified like some reliable sniper when he's routinely let teams down come playoff time, particularly with his streaky shooting.

1. I'm sure you haven't actually watched the games or talked to Spurs fans, as JRich has been very solid for them and they are extremely happy about the trade. Some people even argue he should be starting along side Murray next year as their most reliable shooting option. I don't think the guy is Ray Allen, as matter of fact I don't even think he is a better player than DW, but I think his traits are going to be missed even more come playoff time
2. Maybe because he had the 2nd highest 3pt% from 3 in our squad? And White is shooting 25% since joining Celtics?

[MickaelPietrus]

Once again these aren't objective points here. You are just destroying the pieces we gave away without proving what White has given us that justifies the trade. The playmaking has been ok in some games, in others he just drives hopelessly, gets lost, and kicks out the ball hopelessly. Spurs fans are saying White has been "absolutely trash" a whole lot more than Celtics fans saying that about J Rich with SA (hadn't heard anyone say that), that means nothing