Rumor: Hawks linked to Marcus Smart

[slamtheking]

Collins, Hunter, Huerter, Okongwu

for

Brown, Smart, Langford

Some variation of that.

any variation of that would be awful with the exception of the variation where Jaylen is not being included.

[PhoSita]

Trading Brown for Collins would be terrible.  You go from two stars to one star and a quasi star.

yeah, the move would be to somehow find a way to get Collins without giving up Tatum, Brown, or Timelord.  Then you have a 4 man group that covers almost all the bases offensively, you just need a primary ballhandler who can sort of run the show and keep everybody happy.

of course, there's absolutely no way for the Celts to trade for Collins without giving up any of the aforementioned trio.

[ball4life67]

Yeah absolutely no chance hawks deal Collins for Smart.

[BruceBanner18]

Latest rumor:

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Marcus Smart

Boston Celtics Receive:
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets)
2022 first-round pick (via Oklahoma City Thunder)

The Athletic’s Chris Kirschner reports the Hawks ‘have interest’ in Marcus Smart. Considering how perfectly he’d fit as a defensive hole-plugger on a team that will always need one with Trae Young around, that’s enough to throw a trade together.

Boston might wind up getting only four second-rounders out of the attached picks, as both are protected and may not convey. The Celtics should counter the Hawks by asking for Onyeka Okongwu and/or trying to expand the deal to include Al Horford’s salary, which would get them way below the tax this year.

Still, some version of this exchange makes sense. Smart would add defensive punch to a Hawks team that needs it, and Bogdanovic would bring shooting and playmaking to a Celtics team where those qualities are in short supply. It’s the throw-ins and sweeteners that complicate matters.

[footey]

Latest rumor:

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Marcus Smart

Boston Celtics Receive:
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets)
2022 first-round pick (via Oklahoma City Thunder)

The Athletic’s Chris Kirschner reports the Hawks ‘have interest’ in Marcus Smart. Considering how perfectly he’d fit as a defensive hole-plugger on a team that will always need one with Trae Young around, that’s enough to throw a trade together.

Boston might wind up getting only four second-rounders out of the attached picks, as both are protected and may not convey. The Celtics should counter the Hawks by asking for Onyeka Okongwu and/or trying to expand the deal to include Al Horford’s salary, which would get them way below the tax this year.

Still, some version of this exchange makes sense. Smart would add defensive punch to a Hawks team that needs it, and Bogdanovic would bring shooting and playmaking to a Celtics team where those qualities are in short supply. It’s the throw-ins and sweeteners that complicate matters.

I would have done this a year ago. Not anymore. Smart is too important to our defensive schemes, he is absolutely killing it guarding point guards as well as others.  If we were still struggling you'd have to think about it.  But we're not. Pass.

[Roy H.]

Yeah, we can’t trade an asset for four second rounders.

[Celtics2021]

Latest rumor:

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Marcus Smart

Boston Celtics Receive:
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets)
2022 first-round pick (via Oklahoma City Thunder)

The Athletic’s Chris Kirschner reports the Hawks ‘have interest’ in Marcus Smart. Considering how perfectly he’d fit as a defensive hole-plugger on a team that will always need one with Trae Young around, that’s enough to throw a trade together.

Boston might wind up getting only four second-rounders out of the attached picks, as both are protected and may not convey. The Celtics should counter the Hawks by asking for Onyeka Okongwu and/or trying to expand the deal to include Al Horford’s salary, which would get them way below the tax this year.

Still, some version of this exchange makes sense. Smart would add defensive punch to a Hawks team that needs it, and Bogdanovic would bring shooting and playmaking to a Celtics team where those qualities are in short supply. It’s the throw-ins and sweeteners that complicate matters.

For clarity on the picks.  The OKC pick is lottery protected.  If it doesn't convey this year (and there's zero chance OKC finishes outside the lottery), then it becomes second round picks in 2024 and 2025, so it's very delayed gratification, at best.

The Charlotte pick is a little better, but not great.  It's not likely conveying this year (protected 1-18).  It's not crazy that it could convey next year (protected 1-16), and then it's lottery protected the following two season.  So theoretically it should be a pick in the late teens sometime between 2023 and 2025.  Otherwise it becomes seconds in 2026 and 2027.

There's no way the C's should do this trade, as it's very possible that the C's don't receive a pick until 2024 at the earliest, and not a special pick at that.

[Moranis]

Plus that trade adds like 4 million in salary. 

[Vermont Green]

The CHA pick is protected 1-18 this year and sufficiently protected through 2025 such that there is some likelihood that it becomes seconds in 2026 and 2027.  The OKC pick is protected 1-14 in 2022 and then becomes seconds in 2024 and 2025.

Bogdan shoots slightly better 3s but Smart is better in every other aspects.  I would hate this trade.

[tonydelk]

Latest rumor:

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Marcus Smart

Boston Celtics Receive:
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets)
2022 first-round pick (via Oklahoma City Thunder)

The Athletic’s Chris Kirschner reports the Hawks ‘have interest’ in Marcus Smart. Considering how perfectly he’d fit as a defensive hole-plugger on a team that will always need one with Trae Young around, that’s enough to throw a trade together.

Boston might wind up getting only four second-rounders out of the attached picks, as both are protected and may not convey. The Celtics should counter the Hawks by asking for Onyeka Okongwu and/or trying to expand the deal to include Al Horford’s salary, which would get them way below the tax this year.

Still, some version of this exchange makes sense. Smart would add defensive punch to a Hawks team that needs it, and Bogdanovic would bring shooting and playmaking to a Celtics team where those qualities are in short supply. It’s the throw-ins and sweeteners that complicate matters.

For clarity on the picks.  The OKC pick is lottery protected.  If it doesn't convey this year (and there's zero chance OKC finishes outside the lottery), then it becomes second round picks in 2024 and 2025, so it's very delayed gratification, at best.

The Charlotte pick is a little better, but not great.  It's not likely conveying this year (protected 1-18).  It's not crazy that it could convey next year (protected 1-16), and then it's lottery protected the following two season.  So theoretically it should be a pick in the late teens sometime between 2023 and 2025.  Otherwise it becomes seconds in 2026 and 2027.

There's no way the C's should do this trade, as it's very possible that the C's don't receive a pick until 2024 at the earliest, and not a special pick at that.

This makes zero sense as constructed.  It does not make the team better.  going from Smart to Dennis as the starter at PG and having Bog as a bench scorer.  I take zero stock in this deal.

[liam]

Latest rumor:

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Marcus Smart

Boston Celtics Receive:
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets)
2022 first-round pick (via Oklahoma City Thunder)

The Athletic’s Chris Kirschner reports the Hawks ‘have interest’ in Marcus Smart. Considering how perfectly he’d fit as a defensive hole-plugger on a team that will always need one with Trae Young around, that’s enough to throw a trade together.

Boston might wind up getting only four second-rounders out of the attached picks, as both are protected and may not convey. The Celtics should counter the Hawks by asking for Onyeka Okongwu and/or trying to expand the deal to include Al Horford’s salary, which would get them way below the tax this year.

Still, some version of this exchange makes sense. Smart would add defensive punch to a Hawks team that needs it, and Bogdanovic would bring shooting and playmaking to a Celtics team where those qualities are in short supply. It’s the throw-ins and sweeteners that complicate matters.

For clarity on the picks.  The OKC pick is lottery protected.  If it doesn't convey this year (and there's zero chance OKC finishes outside the lottery), then it becomes second round picks in 2024 and 2025, so it's very delayed gratification, at best.

The Charlotte pick is a little better, but not great.  It's not likely conveying this year (protected 1-18).  It's not crazy that it could convey next year (protected 1-16), and then it's lottery protected the following two season.  So theoretically it should be a pick in the late teens sometime between 2023 and 2025.  Otherwise it becomes seconds in 2026 and 2027.

There's no way the C's should do this trade, as it's very possible that the C's don't receive a pick until 2024 at the earliest, and not a special pick at that.

This makes zero sense as constructed.  It does not make the team better.  going from Smart to Dennis as the starter at PG and having Bog as a bench scorer.  I take zero stock in this deal.

Smart's value right now is through the roof. It would take a crazy godfather offer to get him.

[slamtheking]

Latest rumor:

Atlanta Hawks Receive: Marcus Smart

Boston Celtics Receive:
Bogdan Bogdanovic
2022 first-round pick (via Charlotte Hornets)
2022 first-round pick (via Oklahoma City Thunder)

The Athletic’s Chris Kirschner reports the Hawks ‘have interest’ in Marcus Smart. Considering how perfectly he’d fit as a defensive hole-plugger on a team that will always need one with Trae Young around, that’s enough to throw a trade together.

Boston might wind up getting only four second-rounders out of the attached picks, as both are protected and may not convey. The Celtics should counter the Hawks by asking for Onyeka Okongwu and/or trying to expand the deal to include Al Horford’s salary, which would get them way below the tax this year.

Still, some version of this exchange makes sense. Smart would add defensive punch to a Hawks team that needs it, and Bogdanovic would bring shooting and playmaking to a Celtics team where those qualities are in short supply. It’s the throw-ins and sweeteners that complicate matters.

For clarity on the picks.  The OKC pick is lottery protected.  If it doesn't convey this year (and there's zero chance OKC finishes outside the lottery), then it becomes second round picks in 2024 and 2025, so it's very delayed gratification, at best.

The Charlotte pick is a little better, but not great.  It's not likely conveying this year (protected 1-18).  It's not crazy that it could convey next year (protected 1-16), and then it's lottery protected the following two season.  So theoretically it should be a pick in the late teens sometime between 2023 and 2025.  Otherwise it becomes seconds in 2026 and 2027.

There's no way the C's should do this trade, as it's very possible that the C's don't receive a pick until 2024 at the earliest, and not a special pick at that.

This makes zero sense as constructed.  It does not make the team better.  going from Smart to Dennis as the starter at PG and having Bog as a bench scorer.  I take zero stock in this deal.

Smart's value right now is through the roof. It would take a crazy godfather offer to get him.

agreed.  right now a deal of Smart straight for Collins could be argued as not enough for the C's. 

[Birdman]

Al & Smart for Bog & Collins works in trade machine & would do it…

[liam]

Al & Smart for Bog & Collins works in trade machine & would do it…

That's the kind of trade that makes sense for Smart.

[Smartacus]

Al & Smart for Bog & Collins works in trade machine & would do it…

That's the kind of trade that makes sense for Smart.

That's what I have in my trade deadline prediction. A man can dream.