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Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #150 on: January 26, 2022, 11:22:32 PM »

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Bol Bol is with the team.

I'm growing old, used to get so hyped for these random additions.

I'm old too but these guys probably won't play so what's to get excited about?

There's an off chance they become an Avery Bradley or Glen Davis level contributor...

I mean, Bol's only been with the Nuggets so it's not like he's a journeyman...the odds are a bit better...

Isaiah was the dream...

If we are clearing space Bol won't even play here.

Nah, Bruno is the one who’s getting moved.  Bol is staying, media people who say otherwise are simply dense.

I'd be surprised to see either on the court at any point...

Sure, but Bol isn’t getting salary dumped. The Celtics want to monitor him/see him work out for a few months before deciding to offer him a contract.  I’d say it’s 50-50 they give him a qualifying offer.  But when looking at their future, they don’t talk about Bruno.

I totally agree with this. I think Bol Bol has a real potential for value with us that could not be realized in denver. Jokic is a poor defender. This makes him a natural poor fit with Bol. I think BS sees him as a potential good fit next to Rob.

We will see if he has the work ethic to stick and make it happen. I could see us looking back at this as a shrewd move but I could also see it be a big nothing burger. I think he sticks for at least a year or two.

Personally, bullish on Bol Bol. When you look at his college stats and pedigree, its hard to dismiss him outright.


I agree he could be a prospect but I don't think Ime would play him.

Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #151 on: January 27, 2022, 08:42:49 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?




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Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #152 on: January 27, 2022, 09:10:29 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?
As the classic “big-dude-at-the-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel”.  Celtics have always had a guy like that.  ;D

Seriously though, you make a good point.  He sounds like his dad.

I’m more excited about getting PJ back.  He’s got the Reggie connection.

Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #153 on: January 27, 2022, 09:10:31 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?

It looks like he can shoot but the only minutes I've seen were in garbage time.

Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #154 on: January 27, 2022, 09:13:06 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?
His father, he is not.

Little story(sorry, I'm an old man, it's what we do).

My freshman year at Case Western in Cleveland is the year Manute Bol was there taking English classes. His class was in the same room my Spanish class was in. So I saw him leaving the class before I entered for mine that whole semester.

I was always amazed at his height, but I think I outweighed him as I was around 195 with no fat on me and he didn't look anywhere close to 200. He was so, so thin. Thinner than when he got into the NBA.

He was a sight to see because his presence commanded attention and he was good with that. You could see he was a young man with the pride and confidence of a much older person. And he was always, always smiling.

Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #155 on: January 27, 2022, 09:22:57 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?

Typical "look at this one stat as proof he's an awful player" 

He's no star. He's probably not even a rotation player. But there is undoubtably talent there. If cultivated, and if he could figure out how to stay healthy, he's a very unique and potentially productive talent.

He's the type of guy that smart GMs take a flier on and allow to develop behind the scenes, because if they hit, they hit big. Good GMs should be doing that with the 12-14th spot on their roster. 

Re: Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.
« Reply #156 on: January 27, 2022, 09:44:57 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?

Typical "look at this one stat as proof he's an awful player" 

He's no star. He's probably not even a rotation player. But there is undoubtably talent there. If cultivated, and if he could figure out how to stay healthy, he's a very unique and potentially productive talent.

He's the type of guy that smart GMs take a flier on and allow to develop behind the scenes, because if they hit, they hit big. Good GMs should be doing that with the 12-14th spot on their roster.

DWC, I don’t mean to put you on the spot, but I can’t think of one real example of this ever happening. It probably has happened but pretty sure not in Celtics history. Think about it:  12th-15th guy on the roster is basically a practice player who doesn’t see the floor in real games.  These days, they shuttle between the big club and the G-league just to get reps.  It’s pretty hard to prove yourself under these circumstances.

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« Reply #157 on: January 27, 2022, 09:47:14 PM »

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At the very least, Bol Bol is a better developmental project than Tacko was.

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« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2022, 09:52:08 PM »

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At the very least, Bol Bol is a better developmental project than Tacko was.
Yeah he’s probably more talented than Tacko and yet, I really wanted to see if Fall could turn into a guy you put in to completely change the pace and confuse the defense.  5-8 minutes of lobs-to-Tacko would be a lot of fun. Oh well.

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« Reply #159 on: January 27, 2022, 10:16:18 PM »

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At the very least, Bol Bol is a better developmental project than Tacko was.
Yeah he’s probably more talented than Tacko and yet, I really wanted to see if Fall could turn into a guy you put in to completely change the pace and confuse the defense.  5-8 minutes of lobs-to-Tacko would be a lot of fun. Oh well.


Tacko was just so extremely limited with his lateral movement on defense to ever be playable. Bol Bol can move. Just not sure about his maturity and his durability.

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« Reply #160 on: January 27, 2022, 10:28:08 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?
As the classic “big-dude-at-the-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel”.  Celtics have always had a guy like that.  ;D

Seriously though, you make a good point.  He sounds like his dad.

I’m more excited about getting PJ back.  He’s got the Reggie connection.

ha ha ha....yes, i completely forgot about that all-important role on the celtics. bol bol will fill it perfectly.  ;D
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« Reply #161 on: January 27, 2022, 10:37:07 PM »

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At the very least, Bol Bol is a better developmental project than Tacko was.

Could develop better with Rob Williams too.

Jokic and Miles Plumlee or whatever aren't really fits with Bol.

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« Reply #162 on: January 27, 2022, 10:37:38 PM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?

Typical "look at this one stat as proof he's an awful player" 

He's no star. He's probably not even a rotation player. But there is undoubtably talent there. If cultivated, and if he could figure out how to stay healthy, he's a very unique and potentially productive talent.

He's the type of guy that smart GMs take a flier on and allow to develop behind the scenes, because if they hit, they hit big. Good GMs should be doing that with the 12-14th spot on their roster.

DWC, I don’t mean to put you on the spot, but I can’t think of one real example of this ever happening. It probably has happened but pretty sure not in Celtics history. Think about it:  12th-15th guy on the roster is basically a practice player who doesn’t see the floor in real games.  These days, they shuttle between the big club and the G-league just to get reps.  It’s pretty hard to prove yourself under these circumstances.

Christian Wood, Will Barton, Jermaine O'neal, Spencer Dinwiddie, Ivica Zubac, Jae Crowder, Hassan Whiteside ... just to name a few.

All these players did not stay with their first team, but developed later. Sometimes they didn't develop early due to injuries, or attitudes, or playing time, or just the inability to find a rhythm.

It does happen. Honestly though, probably less than 10% of them end up becoming good NBA players. It's not likely that Bol Bol will become anything.

But I just don't think there's anything to lose. If they could get Bol on a very small multi-year, partially guaranteed contract and let him rehab and try to find his rhythm on the court, it's a good use of a very low cost spot. You have to pay someone to be at that spot on your roster. It may as well be someone who, if everything hit right, could be a starter for you.

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« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2022, 12:01:52 AM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?

Typical "look at this one stat as proof he's an awful player" 

He's no star. He's probably not even a rotation player. But there is undoubtably talent there. If cultivated, and if he could figure out how to stay healthy, he's a very unique and potentially productive talent.

He's the type of guy that smart GMs take a flier on and allow to develop behind the scenes, because if they hit, they hit big. Good GMs should be doing that with the 12-14th spot on their roster.

DWC, I don’t mean to put you on the spot, but I can’t think of one real example of this ever happening. It probably has happened but pretty sure not in Celtics history. Think about it:  12th-15th guy on the roster is basically a practice player who doesn’t see the floor in real games.  These days, they shuttle between the big club and the G-league just to get reps.  It’s pretty hard to prove yourself under these circumstances.

Christian Wood, Will Barton, Jermaine O'neal, Spencer Dinwiddie, Ivica Zubac, Jae Crowder, Hassan Whiteside ... just to name a few.

All these players did not stay with their first team, but developed later. Sometimes they didn't develop early due to injuries, or attitudes, or playing time, or just the inability to find a rhythm.

It does happen. Honestly though, probably less than 10% of them end up becoming good NBA players. It's not likely that Bol Bol will become anything.

But I just don't think there's anything to lose. If they could get Bol on a very small multi-year, partially guaranteed contract and let him rehab and try to find his rhythm on the court, it's a good use of a very low cost spot. You have to pay someone to be at that spot on your roster. It may as well be someone who, if everything hit right, could be a starter for you.
I actually agree. There are plenty of examples of talented guys who simply needed the correct environment and enough time to finally put things together. If not, we still get salary relief.
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« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2022, 06:08:56 AM »

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i will be very surprised if bol ever gets on the court for the celtics. is an awful nba player.

and amazing he is 7'2" with a 9'7" standing reach, yet he has averaged 0.2 blocks a game. a strong defender he is not.

he is way too thin and weak to defend anyone with any strength in the nba, or to finish at the rim. where does that leave his as an nba player?

Typical "look at this one stat as proof he's an awful player" 

He's no star. He's probably not even a rotation player. But there is undoubtably talent there. If cultivated, and if he could figure out how to stay healthy, he's a very unique and potentially productive talent.

He's the type of guy that smart GMs take a flier on and allow to develop behind the scenes, because if they hit, they hit big. Good GMs should be doing that with the 12-14th spot on their roster.

DWC, I don’t mean to put you on the spot, but I can’t think of one real example of this ever happening. It probably has happened but pretty sure not in Celtics history. Think about it:  12th-15th guy on the roster is basically a practice player who doesn’t see the floor in real games.  These days, they shuttle between the big club and the G-league just to get reps.  It’s pretty hard to prove yourself under these circumstances.

Christian Wood, Will Barton, Jermaine O'neal, Spencer Dinwiddie, Ivica Zubac, Jae Crowder, Hassan Whiteside ... just to name a few.

All these players did not stay with their first team, but developed later. Sometimes they didn't develop early due to injuries, or attitudes, or playing time, or just the inability to find a rhythm.

It does happen. Honestly though, probably less than 10% of them end up becoming good NBA players. It's not likely that Bol Bol will become anything.

But I just don't think there's anything to lose. If they could get Bol on a very small multi-year, partially guaranteed contract and let him rehab and try to find his rhythm on the court, it's a good use of a very low cost spot. You have to pay someone to be at that spot on your roster. It may as well be someone who, if everything hit right, could be a starter for you.

I’m going to push back on Jae Crowder who started 16 games, played at least 10 minutes in 71 of his 78 games, and played the 8th-most minutes on the Mavs in his rookie year.  Not a 12th man.

But I’ll add TimeLord, who in his age 22 season (his second), which is the same age as Bol, was pretty much a 12th man.  Even partway into his third season when he started to break out he was only the 10th man many nights.  Bol is young enough to make something happen yet.  He doesn’t turn 23 until November, and there will be players older than him drafted in June.