Bol Bol and PJ Dozier to Celtics, sources tell ESPN.

[nickagneta]

Remember when there were posters arguing the Celtics needed to take Bol with one of their first two first rounders in 2019? Good times!!

Well, we have him now!

[Moranis]

Yet another confirmation that Wyc is cheap. Instead of trying to improve the team, we're trying to duck the tax.

If there were a clear way to improve the roster for the long term/set us on track toward contention, I think it gets done.  Problem is, there isn’t such a move out there.

You can't possibly know that before the deadline. Trades are like the game of chicken: Whomever backs down first loses the game. Teams usually wait till the last possible moment before engaging in serious negotiations. This is why the vast majority of trades happen at the deadline.

Basketball-wise, Juancho sucks. Cap-wise, he's a useful expiring contract to have at the deadline. We didn't even give ourselves a chance to use him as salary filler. What this means is we don't care to improve the team. At the very least, our #1 priority is to avoid the tax.

No one knows anything with 100% certainty.  But it’s plainly obvious (to me at least) that we don’t have the assets to make a trade of consequence. In the end, you expect to get what you give anyway.

And that chicken analogy makes no sense at all.  No team has to make a trade at all.

This trade doesn't change your analysis in any way though because Hernangomez had no value in a trade other than as salary filler and Boston can still make trades and still has the large Fournier TPE (and now has the Hernangomez TPE).

Not really sure what you’re saying but this trade accomplishes something that should be of interest to the fans, even if they don’t know that it’s good for the team.  Setting the clock on the repeater tax for this team would be infinitely stupid.

And I’m not worried about aggregating juanchos salary with anything because like I said, I don’t see a reasonable trade where we’re going to send out a bunch a salary and bring back some kind of a star or anything close to that.  That idea is nothing more than fan wishful thinking.

you said we didn't have the assets to make a trade of consequence, I was merely pointing out that trading Hernangomez did not change that analysis at all since, Hernangomez has no value other than as salary filler.

[tonydelk]

no issue with them ducking the tax in a year where the team is flailing to play 500 ball.  less excuses in the next few years in terms of avoiding deals that put them in tax territory

But what if the team goes on a run? The upcoming schedule sure looks like they could string together 6-7 more straight wins. If they are 29-21 at month's end, does that change your opinion about them possibly doing what they can to avoid the tax this year? If they are say 33-23 on deadline day, do you think staying under the cap should be something they should worry about this year? Or should getting help for a playoff run be the priority?

I know, big if in that statement, but there are a whole bunch of extremely winnable games by the deadline and some teams like Sacramento, Indiana, Atlanta, San Antonio, New Orleans and Portland might lose a bunch before the deadline and go into full tank/rebuild mode making for some interesting players becoming available that could fit into a TPE the team has.

No. Avoiding the tax this year provides flexibility going forward, if i'm not mistaken. And this trade certainly does nothing to affect their ability to perform on the court.

Plus it's been stated that the Luxury Tax Payments this year are like 10m per team.  If the C's can build a contender you'd hope they pay it.  As currently constructed they have not shot so I'm sure Ownership wants that money.

[SHAQATTACK]

Pop will probably get something out of Juancho Hernangomez...

Yes ,  he ll be posting double double s there

[todd_days_41]

Remember when there were posters arguing the Celtics needed to take Bol with one of their first two first rounders in 2919? Good times!!

Well, we have him now!

He'd be 920yo then, unfortunately....

[SHAQATTACK]

Remember when there were posters arguing the Celtics needed to take Bol with one of their first two first rounders in 2919? Good times!!

Well, we have him now!

He'd be 920yo then, unfortunately....

I doubt I ll be around to see him though…..well dang

[nickagneta]

Good catch on my typo guys. Lol. TPs went out to you both for the laugh

[Big333223]

Sheds some salary and the team doesn't lose anyone who was actually playing so it seems like a good deal.

Furthermore, it feels like a deal with its eyes on the summer. I think every single move Brad has made has been with eyes on this summer. The only possible exception is the Schroder signing but even that was a deal that could only help (maybe get an asset for him mid-season) and couldn't hurt (one year contract) financial flexibility this summer.

[footey]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

[liam]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

I remember him liking Juancho too.

[todd_days_41]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

I remember him liking Juancho too.

Think it's fair to say the guy in these highlights has more upside than Jauncho at age 26 (is who he is):

https://youtu.be/cAw8ICwubK0

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=33028157

Also, remember Bol played with PP at Oregon. Wonder what he's had to say about Bol's potential to Brad and Ime?

[liam]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

I remember him liking Juancho too.

Think it's fair to say the guy in these highlights has more upside than Jauncho at age 26 (is who he is):

https://youtu.be/cAw8ICwubK0

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=33028157

Also, remember Bol played with PP at Oregon. Wonder what he's had to say about Bol's potential to Brad and Ime?

He is skilled. He won't play this year and we have to resign him in the summer which isn't guaranteed. I hope it's not just another cost cutting move like dumping Bane, Theis, Baines, Fournier... Thanks for the links. TP

[footey]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

I remember him liking Juancho too.

Ha ha. Probably still does.

[Roy H.]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

I remember him liking Juancho too.

Think it's fair to say the guy in these highlights has more upside than Jauncho at age 26 (is who he is):

https://youtu.be/cAw8ICwubK0

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=33028157

Also, remember Bol played with PP at Oregon. Wonder what he's had to say about Bol's potential to Brad and Ime?

He is skilled. He won't play this year and we have to resign him in the summer which isn't guaranteed. I hope it's not just another cost cutting move like dumping Bane, Theis, Baines, Fournier...

I don't mind blowing the 15th roster spot on a project who at least has some NBA skills.  I'm less thrilled when we've got five or so guys on the roster that can't play.

[footey]

Brad this morning on Toucher and Rich:

"We like Bol's upside."  Said team eager to evaluate him as he recovers from surgery and noted his potential to retain beyond this year.

Per Chris Forsberg tweet.

I remember him liking Juancho too.

Think it's fair to say the guy in these highlights has more upside than Jauncho at age 26 (is who he is):

https://youtu.be/cAw8ICwubK0

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=33028157

Also, remember Bol played with PP at Oregon. Wonder what he's had to say about Bol's potential to Brad and Ime?

Funny, you see PP in the Oregon video playing with Bol. I had forgotten they were teammates.