Celtics (21-21) at 76ers (23-17) Game #43 1/14/22

[PhoSita]

Didn't like the benching of the starters and running the white flag up so early. That's high school coach B.S. If Ime had any respect coming from the players, he may have just lost it all and lost the locker room. You don't treat pros in a bush league high school coaching way.

Ime has got to go. That was the last straw for me. He can't get them prepared to be ready from the jump ball. He can't get them to hold large leads. His ATOs are terrible and his offensive system and groupings are atrocious. The team should not be using Horford at PF, should not be starting Smart and should be playing at a higher pace.

I wanted to give him a chance. All those years under Pop, I figured Udoka would be a more finished coaching product. He isn't. Time to move on.

Yeah Ime stinks. Unfortunately I think the Celts will stick with him for at least one more season.

[Silas]

Timing for tomorrow's game is rough.  Both the Cs and the Pats playing at the same time.  Go Cs and go Pats!

[nickagneta]

Didn't like the benching of the starters and running the white flag up so early. That's high school coach B.S. If Ime had any respect coming from the players, he may have just lost it all and lost the locker room. You don't treat pros in a bush league high school coaching way.

Ime has got to go. That was the last straw for me. He can't get them prepared to be ready from the jump ball. He can't get them to hold large leads. His ATOs are terrible and his offensive system and groupings are atrocious. The team should not be using Horford at PF, should not be starting Smart and should be playing at a higher pace.

I wanted to give him a chance. All those years under Pop, I figured Udoka would be a more finished coaching product. He isn't. Time to move on.

That was actually the move I liked seeing from Ime :]

Screw these starters. They looked lazy.

Bench played with attitude. I was rooting for the guys instead of being all "ugh not this again".

Yeah, and most fans would. But these guys aren't high school kids. You can't treat them as such. They are professionals. You don't pull stuff like that at the pro level unless you are an established superstar coach with gravitas and have the complete and utter respect from the locker room. Stevens understood this, that's why he never did it. Showed me Udoka doesn't have what it takes to succeed at this level.

[Kiorrik]

Didn't like the benching of the starters and running the white flag up so early. That's high school coach B.S. If Ime had any respect coming from the players, he may have just lost it all and lost the locker room. You don't treat pros in a bush league high school coaching way.

Ime has got to go. That was the last straw for me. He can't get them prepared to be ready from the jump ball. He can't get them to hold large leads. His ATOs are terrible and his offensive system and groupings are atrocious. The team should not be using Horford at PF, should not be starting Smart and should be playing at a higher pace.

I wanted to give him a chance. All those years under Pop, I figured Udoka would be a more finished coaching product. He isn't. Time to move on.

That was actually the move I liked seeing from Ime :]

Screw these starters. They looked lazy.

Bench played with attitude. I was rooting for the guys instead of being all "ugh not this again".

Yeah, and most fans would. But these guys aren't high school kids. You can't treat them as such. They are professionals. You don't pull stuff like that at the pro level unless you are an established superstar coach with gravitas and have the complete and utter respect from the locker room. Stevens understood this, that's why he never did it. Showed me Udoka doesn't have what it takes to succeed at this level.

I actually agree with that initial sentiment.

But when they ACT like high school kids, you *do* treat them as such :]

Don't think that's been done to them much.

.edit: but I'ma refer to my signature - we prob both wrong and making assumptions here

[Goldstar88]

Didn't like the benching of the starters and running the white flag up so early. That's high school coach B.S. If Ime had any respect coming from the players, he may have just lost it all and lost the locker room. You don't treat pros in a bush league high school coaching way.

Ime has got to go. That was the last straw for me. He can't get them prepared to be ready from the jump ball. He can't get them to hold large leads. His ATOs are terrible and his offensive system and groupings are atrocious. The team should not be using Horford at PF, should not be starting Smart and should be playing at a higher pace.

I wanted to give him a chance. All those years under Pop, I figured Udoka would be a more finished coaching product. He isn't. Time to move on.

That was actually the move I liked seeing from Ime :]

Screw these starters. They looked lazy.

Bench played with attitude. I was rooting for the guys instead of being all "ugh not this again".

Yeah, and most fans would. But these guys aren't high school kids. You can't treat them as such. They are professionals. You don't pull stuff like that at the pro level unless you are an established superstar coach with gravitas and have the complete and utter respect from the locker room. Stevens understood this, that's why he never did it. Showed me Udoka doesn't have what it takes to succeed at this level.

C’s didn’t have it tonight, from start to finish. So why run the starters into the ground when you have another game tomorrow? I think the coach made the right call.

[SparzWizard]

Here comes another 3 or 4 game losing streak!

Real talk though, this team is missing the playoffs this year. It's already midseason and they're sub .500 again and they're currently the 11th seed. Even though they may be 1.5 game behind the 8th seed and the way they've been playing all year I don't have any confident in them turning it around this season. Just tank it if I were them.

[PhoSita]

Here comes another 3 or 4 game losing streak!

Real talk though, this team is missing the playoffs this year. It's already midseason and they're sub .500 again and they're currently the 11th seed. Even though they may be 1.5 game behind the 8th seed and the way they've been playing all year I don't have any confident in them turning it around this season. Just tank it if I were them.

The absolute best thing to happen this team would be to end up solidly in the 10-12 range and have a dynamic guard prospect drop.

Missing the playoffs would give Brad more of a mandate to reshape the team and might even prompt cutting bait on Ime sooner, which seems like a necessary step if this team is gonna be good anytime soon.

[seancally]

Didn't like the benching of the starters and running the white flag up so early. That's high school coach B.S. If Ime had any respect coming from the players, he may have just lost it all and lost the locker room. You don't treat pros in a bush league high school coaching way.

Ime has got to go. That was the last straw for me. He can't get them prepared to be ready from the jump ball. He can't get them to hold large leads. His ATOs are terrible and his offensive system and groupings are atrocious. The team should not be using Horford at PF, should not be starting Smart and should be playing at a higher pace.

I wanted to give him a chance. All those years under Pop, I figured Udoka would be a more finished coaching product. He isn't. Time to move on.

That was actually the move I liked seeing from Ime :]

Screw these starters. They looked lazy.

Bench played with attitude. I was rooting for the guys instead of being all "ugh not this again".

Yeah, and most fans would. But these guys aren't high school kids. You can't treat them as such. They are professionals. You don't pull stuff like that at the pro level unless you are an established superstar coach with gravitas and have the complete and utter respect from the locker room. Stevens understood this, that's why he never did it. Showed me Udoka doesn't have what it takes to succeed at this level.

C’s didn’t have it tonight, from start to finish. So why run the starters into the ground when you have another game tomorrow? I think the coach made the right call.

Didn’t Doc sub out the whole starting 5 for the bench unit during the KG era to make a point during some game, maybe even playoffs? It’s not without precedent.

[SparzWizard]

Appreciate that Tatum is "taking full ownership" of the loss against the 76ers tonight.

But it starts with Udoka. This guy can't coach for crap...he gotta go, and fast.

[Celtics2021]

Appreciate that Tatum is "taking full ownership" of the loss against the 76ers tonight.

But it starts with Udoka. This guy can't coach for crap...he gotta go, and fast.

Nah, this one’s on the players.  Tatum had 4 turnovers and 2 fouls in the first quarter during that 27-2 run, and Brown was only marginally better.  They started the game out 8-2, and gave the game away in about a 9 minute stretch.  They were dribbling off their foot and telegraphing their passes all night.  Coaching can’t fix that, not midgame.

[Birdman]

Coaching can’t fix that awful bench

[ausbacker]

Coaching can’t fix that awful bench

In a new era that promised so much, ironic the Nets are better placed than us when the perception was Ainge fleeced them. Dysfunctional roster, a dud coach and poor front office, how our trajectories changed.

[Billz401]

Appreciate that Tatum is "taking full ownership" of the loss against the 76ers tonight.

But it starts with Udoka. This guy can't coach for crap...he gotta go, and fast.

Agreed. He has one of the worst defensive strategies ive ever seen implemented. They switch everything for no reason at all. Like if theres a screen and you cant fight over it you should switch. But when you are trailing your guy and just expect someone else to pick them up so you can randomly switch onto the guy they are defending i just dont understand it. Seems like every time down the floor we give the opponents favorable missmatches and they dont have to work at all to get them. Just looks like lazy defense.

And then offensively i have no clue what our strategy is most nights. No plays called its just everyone stand in the corners and watch iso ball that eventually ends up a contested long jumper. No working miss matches or even trying to get one in the first place. The only hope we have is that people catch fire and hit jumpers all night because we arent getting any easy buckets.

[Billz401]

24 points off 14 Turnovers.

Brown turned the ball over and then dogged it back on defense with his head down like a little kid… didn’t even try for the block on the layup.

Thats his MO. One of the laziest defenders on the team. Remember the other day against pacers when he slipped and basically just sat there on the ground while schroder watched Brissett i believe hit a wide open corner 3? JRich was screaming at them both it was awesome

[footey]

Jaylen Brown was the primary reason we got into that first quarter deficit.  He was just awful.  He made multiple turnovers and zoned out on defense multiple times. Settled for bad shots early in the shot clock. It's like he didn't get a good night's sleep.  Just mind boggling.

Tatum wasn't much better.

People wonder why guys just stand around on offense. It's because we basically play 2 man basketball. We rarely engage other players.  Putting the ball in the hands of JT and JB to run the offense works only if they are able to create opportunities for others when they run into traps. Time and again they fail to execute. They lack the ability to execute on a consistent basis.  This team so desperately needs a playmaker. That guy is not on this roster currently.