Ideas to Improve Team Passing & Team Play

[GreenlyGreeny]

Also, JB is not a “random person,” as you put it. He’s a public figure, a public athlete, subject to criticism for his play, particularly when we lose or meander at .500 for over 100+ games. You and I are random people that nobody on here cares about the way we all care about the Celtics winning (and we’re all about titles, not first-round exits). JB is not a random person. Talking about him and speculating/criticizing him when we lost is totally fair game on a sports forum? In any case, suggest we keep it focused on players and the team, not random people.

Can we get back to talking about team play and winning?

[Kiorrik]

I didn't mean to insult, just pointing out your lack of empathy in judging people combined with your refusal to consider any other options at all.

TP for keeping this discussion going.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I didn't mean to insult, just pointing out your lack of empathy in judging people combined with your refusal to consider any other options at all.

TP for keeping this discussion going.

Thank you, sir. I loved JB two years ago. I loved when we felt like we could maybe, just maybe, go all the way with these wicked awesome wings. That was only 1.5 years ago or so. I completely accept I may be wrong, but I feel like JB changed his play after becoming the clear number two guy, and that’s the biggest reason why we’ve gone from contenders to .500. I do not see JT changing but instead being consistently himself since day one. Something changed since the bubble and I think it’s mostly JB in ways that are not benefiting us. Again, I may be wrong and totally out of line. I do admit I’m so pleased by him generating a triple-double. I wanna see more of that.

I want to love JB again and I want to feel like a title is possible again. If my passion and disappointment (anger at times) at being .500 for over 100+ games is overly directed towards JB at times and comes across to the level of seeming sociopathic (sincerely hope you’re mostly joking and I’m missing the joke), I sincerely apologize and will try to ratchet it back.

[KG Living Legend]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

 Completely uncalled for.  Sociopathic?

[Kiorrik]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

 Completely uncalled for.  Sociopathic?

I'm not gonna start all of this over from scratch. Read the rest.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

 Completely uncalled for.  Sociopathic?

I'm not gonna start all of this over from scratch. Read the rest.

Anybody objective reading the rest is simply left wondering, “who watches the watchmen?”

Everyone reading knows that talking about a public figure/athlete like JB and speculating/criticizing him when we lose is totally fair game on an objective and respected sports forum such as this one, especially after 100+ games of mediocrity.  Calling a fellow fan “borderline sociopathic” because you happen to disagree with that fan’s speculation/criticism of a player, and that fan’s belief that we need to see something change to reverse the trend of 100+ games of .500 (especially after said fan positively expresses that perhaps JB is changing things up, finding his way so that winning can be done again)? Well, really, what does one say (or at least think) other than, “who watches the watchmen?”

[Csfan1984]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

 Completely uncalled for.  Sociopathic?

I'm not gonna start all of this over from scratch. Read the rest.

Anybody objective reading the rest is simply left wondering, “who watches the watchmen?”

Everyone reading knows that talking about a public figure/athlete like JB and speculating/criticizing him when we lose is totally fair game on an objective and respected sports forum such as this one, especially after 100+ games of mediocrity.  Calling a fellow fan “borderline sociopathic” because you happen to disagree with that fan’s speculation/criticism of a player, and that fan’s belief that we need to see something change to undo 100+ games of .500 (especially after said fan positively expresses that perhaps JB is changing things up and it’s what we need to now get back to winning)? Well, in this circumstance, what does one say other than who watches the watchmen?

GreenlyGreeny, he made that statement because you have a habit to narrate a guys personal motives and mental approach in a negative way based on watching a game despite what coaches and players themselves say. You state your own opinion as fact and above what direct people are saying in regards to something no one but the player can truly know. You even dismiss stats like projected ast or game details like off ball movement to believe you can understand what Brown thinks and wants. That is sociopathic narcissist behavior. If you kept the "reading player's minds" out of your post and just make comments on their play that's k but you bring up that narrative so much it's sending signals of a personality disorder.


Ps edit: The fact that I can make such diagnosis and claims without any formal training or licenses may also mean I too have narcissistic tendencies. Welcome to a watchman looking in a mirrror, 

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

 Completely uncalled for.  Sociopathic?

I'm not gonna start all of this over from scratch. Read the rest.

Anybody objective reading the rest is simply left wondering, “who watches the watchmen?”

Everyone reading knows that talking about a public figure/athlete like JB and speculating/criticizing him when we lose is totally fair game on an objective and respected sports forum such as this one, especially after 100+ games of mediocrity.  Calling a fellow fan “borderline sociopathic” because you happen to disagree with that fan’s speculation/criticism of a player, and that fan’s belief that we need to see something change to undo 100+ games of .500 (especially after said fan positively expresses that perhaps JB is changing things up and it’s what we need to now get back to winning)? Well, in this circumstance, what does one say other than who watches the watchmen?

GreenlyGreeny, he made that statement because you have a habit to narrate a guys personal motives and mental approach in a negative way based on watching a game despite what coaches and players themselves say. You state your own opinion as fact and above what direct people are saying in regards to something no one but the player can truly know. You even dismiss stats like projected ast or game details like off ball movement to believe you can understand what Brown thinks and wants. That is sociopathic narcissist behavior. If you kept the "reading player's minds" out of your post and just make comments on their play that's k but you bring up that narrative so much it's sending signals of a personality disorder.


Ps edit: The fact that I can make such diagnosis and claims without any formal training or licenses may also mean I too have narcissistic tendencies. Welcome to a watchman looking in a mirrror, 

My opinions and speculations on a sports forum are clearly opinions, speculation and conjecture. I consistently use the qualifier IF to acknowledge this, and I rarely use the word I out of personal preference, not to give the impression something is being stated as fact.

If someone interprets the opinions of an author are being stated as fact, that’s never the intent of this author. If someone does not like the opinions of another poster, they’re welcome to not read them. But nobody should feel free to state someone is “borderline sociopathic” for any reason, including if they’re a watchman who thinks they’re above the rules and they do not like the opinions, speculation and conjecture that differs from their own, so they wish to seemingly abuse their position of authority in an attempt to bait someone whose opinion they disagree with into saying something that can be misconstrued, particularly in the heat of the moment.  If such a thing has happened or ever would happen, of course. Such behavior is clearly not compatible with the spirit of free speech and fairness, at least as we know it in America, the home of our beloved Boston Celtics.

[todd_days_41]

I have a very creative idea to improve the team’s passing: trade for an actual point guard.

If we had one, it might prevent Tatum and Brown from alternating dribbling around for 19 seconds, then either hucking up a shot, or driving into a triple team then complaining when they don’t get a call.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I have a very creative idea to improve the team’s passing: trade for an actual point guard.

If we had one, it might prevent Tatum and Brown from alternating dribbling around for 19 seconds, then either hucking up a shot, or driving into a triple team then complaining when they don’t get a call.

Could not agree more. But who do we trade and for whom? I just wish there was a way to get D. Murray on this team. He would be unstoppable with JT. Shame we passed on him in his draft class for the French Dancing 🐻

[Goldstar88]

I have a very creative idea to improve the team’s passing: trade for an actual point guard.

If we had one, it might prevent Tatum and Brown from alternating dribbling around for 19 seconds, then either hucking up a shot, or driving into a triple team then complaining when they don’t get a call.

People keep saying this, but then give no examples of potential PG’s to bring in. Probably because there are not any available?

[LilRip]

I have a very creative idea to improve the team’s passing: trade for an actual point guard.

If we had one, it might prevent Tatum and Brown from alternating dribbling around for 19 seconds, then either hucking up a shot, or driving into a triple team then complaining when they don’t get a call.

Could not agree more. But who do we trade and for whom? I just wish there was a way to get D. Murray on this team. He would be unstoppable with JT. Shame we passed on him in his draft class for the French Dancing 🐻

Unpopular opinion: Jaylen Brown

He’s the only one that makes sense from a Spurs POV (JB is a legit all star) and even then, I’m not sure if Spurs pull the trigger (unless they want to build around JB like they are currently building around Murray).

I think having Murray too slides Smart at the 2 (where he should play, not the 1) although this team will still sorely lack shooters. Replace Schroder and JRich in the rotation with legit shooters and I think you have something.

[GreenlyGreeny]

I have a very creative idea to improve the team’s passing: trade for an actual point guard.

If we had one, it might prevent Tatum and Brown from alternating dribbling around for 19 seconds, then either hucking up a shot, or driving into a triple team then complaining when they don’t get a call.

People keep saying this, but then give no examples of potential PG’s to bring in. Probably because there are not any?

The one that keeps coming to mind for me is TJ McConnell, at least in terms of us using the TPE and picks to get a real PG without losing our core. His passing in Philly impressed me at times. But can be be a solid starter for 34-36 MPG? He’s not done it before and is 29 these days. If he could do it and maintain his stat line per 36, we would be served well if this bench grows.

McConnell/Pritchard
Smart/Richardson
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/G. Williams
Timelord/Horford

[GreenlyGreeny]

I have a very creative idea to improve the team’s passing: trade for an actual point guard.

If we had one, it might prevent Tatum and Brown from alternating dribbling around for 19 seconds, then either hucking up a shot, or driving into a triple team then complaining when they don’t get a call.

Could not agree more. But who do we trade and for whom? I just wish there was a way to get D. Murray on this team. He would be unstoppable with JT. Shame we passed on him in his draft class for the French Dancing 🐻

Unpopular opinion: Jaylen Brown

He’s the only one that makes sense from a Spurs POV (JB is a legit all star) and even then, I’m not sure if Spurs pull the trigger (unless they want to build around JB like they are currently building around Murray).

I think having Murray too slides Smart at the 2 (where he should play, not the 1) although this team will still sorely lack shooters. Replace Schroder and JRich in the rotation with legit shooters and I think you have something.

It may be an unpopular opinion, but if it happened and we went back to winning, rest assured it would be the right opinion.

[Rosco917]

What concerns me most is, it doesn't matter who we get as a PG if both our sticky fingered young "stars" don't allow him to direct the team, this by ignoring him and his skill set. That's why IMO a young PG may not do the trick. The J's have an established pecking order going. 

This team needs a coach that enforces a game plan and holds players accountable, not a new Pal.

It was nice to see Jaylen get a triple double, his first in nearly 400 games.