Ideas to Improve Team Passing & Team Play

[GreenlyGreeny]

I’m extremely pleased by JB getting a triple-double. The fact he did it against the Knicks only days after having zero assists against the Knicks leads me to believe JB just goes out there and does whatever he wants to do (he is kind of a cool bad boy like that). Which gives me hope he can become the elite team player we need him to be for JT/JB to become the championship duo we’ve all envisioned for years now.

If it is the case that JB just does whatever he wants and he wants to be top dog and if you were the head coach, why not try a visual management board where the players are ranked on offense with a simple equation:

Points + 2.5 X Assists + 1 X Hockey Assists  = Offensive Output Score (in other words, trying to weight assists and baskets similarly). To give an example:

17-18 Points + 7-8 Assists + 1-2 Hockey Assists = 35.5-40 OOS > 28 Points + 1-2 Assists + 0 Hockey Assists = 30.5-33 OOS

The reward for being at the top of the visual management board is getting to pick first seat on the next plane heading out or heading home, and other first-dibs perks like that until the next game. Maybe Hail to the Chief plays for them as a joke when they enter the plane. Who knows. Whatever will build connections and laughter between the players.

Obviously the intent is to provide an incentive to improve the team’s passing so we can maximize the best shot opportunities. Team cohesion relies on passing and everyone getting an opportunity to take a great shooting opportunity when it’s available. That is going to be highly correlated with winning.

Anyway, love seeing JB dominate with assists and feel like being the leader of the equation above is far more important than being the points leader, which is clearly what JT/JB have taken turns striving for the past 100+ games (and look at the results…look at what happened in JB’s game against the Knicks with a triple-double versus his game against the Knicks with 0 assists + 40-something points).

Other ideas for how to incentivize team play/passing?

[Kiorrik]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

[Csfan1984]

Getting triple doubles and having the crowds react to great play is plenty of incentives.

The biggest improvement in JB's and TL's big triple double games is off ball movement. JB, Horford, and TL thrive off that. Langford, Josh, Schro, and Grant also benefit on easy scores. It's why JB said he likes the offense through the bigs. Coach listening to JB is best answer to getting better play. In BS era guys are too focused on spreading things out and forgetting to make a defense work is the best way to break it down.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant player personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

[Csfan1984]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

You didn't help yourself with this reply.

[Kiorrik]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

So here's the thing.

You can't take a random person and then say "they're selfish" (that's what you said, in not so many words) and after that, be angry when people call you out for being [whatever random trait they think you have].

In short; you're dishing it out but unable to take it.

If you're judging others, be ready to get judged in return?

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

So here's the thing.

You can't take a random person and then say "they're selfish" (that's what you said, in not so many words) and after that, be angry when people call you out for being [whatever random trait they think you have].

In short; you're dishing it out but unable to take it.

If you're judging others, be ready to get judged in return?

I’m constantly criticizing a player and his style of play the last 100+ games (and our corresponding record), not the person separate and apart from the athlete. And certainly not judging any posters on here, let alone implying someone on here is sociopathic for drawing inferences about players based on their play and on-and-off-court behavior around other players.

In any case, I’ve given that player a lot of recent credit for being exactly what we need him to be to position us for a title. I want our team to win a title. I’m not going after fellow posters or projecting my own fears about myself onto others—are you? If so, why? Life is too short. If you’re not interested in reading my comments, why not just skip whatever I have to say? I do that all of the time. It’s a lot easier and certainly more respectful.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

You didn't help yourself with this reply.

I’m not here to help myself?

There are those who are fine with .500 and those who only care about titles. I fall firmly into the latter. Any and all posts I provide are to help generate ideas or discussions about how to improve our odds of a title. That’s why I’m here.

[Kiorrik]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

So here's the thing.

You can't take a random person and then say "they're selfish" (that's what you said, in not so many words) and after that, be angry when people call you out for being [whatever random trait they think you have].

In short; you're dishing it out but unable to take it.

If you're judging others, be ready to get judged in return?

I’m constantly criticizing a player and his style of play the last 100+ games (and our corresponding record), not the person separate and apart from the athlete. And certainly not judging any posters on here, let alone implying someone on here is sociopathic for drawing inferences about players based on their play and on-and-off-court behavior around other players.

In any case, I’ve given that player a lot of recent credit for being exactly what we need him to be to position us for a title. I want our team to win a title. I’m not going after fellow posters or projecting my own fears about myself onto others?

This:

leads me to believe JB just goes out there and does whatever he wants to do (he is kind of a cool bad boy like that)

Is 100% speculation, assumption, and based on nothing.

If I punch someone in the face, you'd call me a horrible aggressive person. Meanwhile, that person might've murdered my dad 2 minutes before.

See what I mean?

You're assuming. You're saying this guy's doing whatever he wants.

Maybe, just maybe, he's a young kid that's been told to attack whenever he can.

Maybe he's trying his best to create but guys aren't knocking down shots.

Maybe people aren't driving in around him when he goes in so he has nobody to dump it off to.

Maybe 100 other reasons.

But, you went with calling him selfish.

That's the part that's assuming. That's the part that's automatically going for assuming malice over anything else.

That's what I'm calling you out for.

[Kiorrik]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

You didn't help yourself with this reply.

I’m not here to help myself?

There are two kinds of Celtics fans: Those who are fine with .500 and those who only care about titles. I fall firmly into the latter.

Sociopathic behaviour to the T?

I'll drop it now because if the above explanations don't work, I'm not gonna get there in any other way.

Soz bro.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

So here's the thing.

You can't take a random person and then say "they're selfish" (that's what you said, in not so many words) and after that, be angry when people call you out for being [whatever random trait they think you have].

In short; you're dishing it out but unable to take it.

If you're judging others, be ready to get judged in return?

I’m constantly criticizing a player and his style of play the last 100+ games (and our corresponding record), not the person separate and apart from the athlete. And certainly not judging any posters on here, let alone implying someone on here is sociopathic for drawing inferences about players based on their play and on-and-off-court behavior around other players.

In any case, I’ve given that player a lot of recent credit for being exactly what we need him to be to position us for a title. I want our team to win a title. I’m not going after fellow posters or projecting my own fears about myself onto others?

This:

leads me to believe JB just goes out there and does whatever he wants to do (he is kind of a cool bad boy like that)

Is 100% speculation, assumption, and based on nothing.

If I punch someone in the face, you'd call me a horrible aggressive person. Meanwhile, that person might've murdered my dad 2 minutes before.

See what I mean?

You're assuming. You're saying this guy's doing whatever he wants.

Maybe, just maybe, he's a young kid that's been told to attack whenever he can.

Maybe he's trying his best to create but guys aren't knocking down shots.

Maybe people aren't driving in around him when he goes in so he has nobody to dump it off to.

Maybe 100 other reasons.

But, you went with calling him selfish.

That's the part that's assuming. That's the part that's automatically going for assuming malice over anything else.

That's what I'm calling you out for.

How do you explain going up against a team, scoring 40+ points and no assists, and within a couple days going up against the same team and getting a triple-double? That’s not normal. If nothing else, the dude is unique and fascinating. Personally like to think he’s a bad dude (intended as a compliment of the athlete, not a personal criticism of the person) who’s coming around to being the guy we need.

Personally, if he’s really doing whatever he wants and can do the triple-double thing lots moving forward, he’ll quickly become my favorite and you can sign me up for Secretary of the JKJB Club.

[Csfan1984]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

You didn't help yourself with this reply.

I’m not here to help myself?

There are those who are fine with .500 and those who only care about titles. I fall firmly into the latter. Any and all posts I provide are to help generate ideas or discussions about how to improve our odds of a title. That’s why I’m here.

Annddd you did it again.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

You didn't help yourself with this reply.

I’m not here to help myself?

There are two kinds of Celtics fans: Those who are fine with .500 and those who only care about titles. I fall firmly into the latter.

Sociopathic behaviour to the T?

I'll drop it now because if the above explanations don't work, I'm not gonna get there in any other way.

Soz bro.

It’s just a game.

[Kiorrik]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

So here's the thing.

You can't take a random person and then say "they're selfish" (that's what you said, in not so many words) and after that, be angry when people call you out for being [whatever random trait they think you have].

In short; you're dishing it out but unable to take it.

If you're judging others, be ready to get judged in return?

I’m constantly criticizing a player and his style of play the last 100+ games (and our corresponding record), not the person separate and apart from the athlete. And certainly not judging any posters on here, let alone implying someone on here is sociopathic for drawing inferences about players based on their play and on-and-off-court behavior around other players.

In any case, I’ve given that player a lot of recent credit for being exactly what we need him to be to position us for a title. I want our team to win a title. I’m not going after fellow posters or projecting my own fears about myself onto others?

This:

leads me to believe JB just goes out there and does whatever he wants to do (he is kind of a cool bad boy like that)

Is 100% speculation, assumption, and based on nothing.

If I punch someone in the face, you'd call me a horrible aggressive person. Meanwhile, that person might've murdered my dad 2 minutes before.

See what I mean?

You're assuming. You're saying this guy's doing whatever he wants.

Maybe, just maybe, he's a young kid that's been told to attack whenever he can.

Maybe he's trying his best to create but guys aren't knocking down shots.

Maybe people aren't driving in around him when he goes in so he has nobody to dump it off to.

Maybe 100 other reasons.

But, you went with calling him selfish.

That's the part that's assuming. That's the part that's automatically going for assuming malice over anything else.

That's what I'm calling you out for.

How do you explain going up against a team, scoring 40+ points and no assists, and within a couple days going up against the same team and getting a triple-double? That’s not normal. If nothing else, the dude is unique and fascinating. Personally like to think he’s a bad dude (intended as a compliment of the athlete, not a personal criticism of the person) who’s coming around to being the guy we need.

Personally, if he’s really doing whatever he wants and can do the triple-double thing lots moving forward, he’ll quickly become my favorite and you can sign me up for Secretary of the JKJB Club.

The same way we've been explaining that OVER and OVER and OVER again over the last few weeks.

He had 8 potential assists but people kept missing shots. And that number was this season's record.

So yeah.

You wrong. He was trying. People were missing.

OR, you can pick any of the other things I wrote down.

OR you can call him a selfish player.

You go with that last one.

I say all of them are possible.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Your assumptions about these people's personalities, drives and attitudes border on the sociopathic.

How is this appropriate but using the word [dang] is censored?

Believe I’ve only commented on JB’s dominant personality, not others. Firmly believe he clearly wants to be the top scorer on the team, he wants to be seen as the alpha over Tatum and does not really fit alongside JT when he plays that guy. What he should want to be is that guy who killed it with a triple-double. That’s sooo much more important to us than 24 PPG and 1-2 APG. The dude played like a Pippen, that elite number two guy we need. I’ve complimented JB for his commitment to social justice. In no way, shape or form have I ever implied that JB is a sociopath. He’s a decent fella who will hopefully keep up the team ball, so we can keep on winning. The way he played alongside JT in that game is EXACTLY what we need to be back in the ECF. Not this absurd iso-ball thing we’ve seen lately.

Obviously we could not provide some sort of financial incentive for this team play separate and apart from the contract, but they should find some way to incentivize this kind of play. Mind you, silly, fun examples were given without much thought, mostly on a lark. But lighten up, Francis. And don’t kid yourself if you think trying to be the top scorer is not about $$$. These are kids in their early/mid 20s. Suggesting people respond to incentives does not make one sociopathic, nor does one border on being sociopathic for wanting to be the top scorer with the accolades who wants to maximize their exposure so they can maximize their future potential earnings. Unfortunately, some folks are all about business and others want our guys to play such that they’re striving for titles, not max contracts, but whatevs.

So here's the thing.

You can't take a random person and then say "they're selfish" (that's what you said, in not so many words) and after that, be angry when people call you out for being [whatever random trait they think you have].

In short; you're dishing it out but unable to take it.

If you're judging others, be ready to get judged in return?

I’m constantly criticizing a player and his style of play the last 100+ games (and our corresponding record), not the person separate and apart from the athlete. And certainly not judging any posters on here, let alone implying someone on here is sociopathic for drawing inferences about players based on their play and on-and-off-court behavior around other players.

In any case, I’ve given that player a lot of recent credit for being exactly what we need him to be to position us for a title. I want our team to win a title. I’m not going after fellow posters or projecting my own fears about myself onto others?

This:

leads me to believe JB just goes out there and does whatever he wants to do (he is kind of a cool bad boy like that)

Is 100% speculation, assumption, and based on nothing.

If I punch someone in the face, you'd call me a horrible aggressive person. Meanwhile, that person might've murdered my dad 2 minutes before.

See what I mean?

You're assuming. You're saying this guy's doing whatever he wants.

Maybe, just maybe, he's a young kid that's been told to attack whenever he can.

Maybe he's trying his best to create but guys aren't knocking down shots.

Maybe people aren't driving in around him when he goes in so he has nobody to dump it off to.

Maybe 100 other reasons.

But, you went with calling him selfish.

That's the part that's assuming. That's the part that's automatically going for assuming malice over anything else.

That's what I'm calling you out for.

How do you explain going up against a team, scoring 40+ points and no assists, and within a couple days going up against the same team and getting a triple-double? That’s not normal. If nothing else, the dude is unique and fascinating. Personally like to think he’s a bad dude (intended as a compliment of the athlete, not a personal criticism of the person) who’s coming around to being the guy we need.

Personally, if he’s really doing whatever he wants and can do the triple-double thing lots moving forward, he’ll quickly become my favorite and you can sign me up for Secretary of the JKJB Club.

The same way we've been explaining that OVER and OVER and OVER again over the last few weeks.

He had 8 potential assists but people kept missing shots. And that number was this season's record.

So yeah.

You wrong. He was trying. People were missing.

OR, you can pick any of the other things I wrote down.

OR you can call him a selfish player.

You go with that last one.

I say all of them are possible.

I appreciate your posts and I apologize if I said or did anything that you construed to be a personal attack hence this odd turn of events. That’s never my intent. I cannot imagine implying to someone on here that they’re displaying sociopathic behavior based on commentary they’ve provided about players. If I said or did something wrong, other than show passion for my favorite team, I apologize and will do my best to do better next time. Sorry, mate.