Cousy Weighs in on C’s Struggles

[KG Living Legend]

 It's just utter nonsense that many other posters here as well as myself would make better Gms then Danny or Brad. My top priority would be A world class PG. And a legit big man.

 It's not rocket science. 

[Ogaju]

Bane could've run the point.

Bane?

[W8ting2McHale]

There aren’t very many floor general type point guards in the NBA anymore. Most are scorers. Pass 1st guards coming out seem to be older players and get taken in the 2nd round.

Drafting a guy like that isn’t going to help the Celtics anytime soon and there aren’t many available via trade either.

So I looked at Euroleague guards that might have enough experience and skill to lead an NBA team, but the pickings are slim there too. A bunch of over 30 guys with experience that aren’t NBA athletes. Some NBA rejects like Shelvin Mack and Sergio Rodriguez. Yam Madar is probably as good an option as any.

Only one guy might be good enough to consider - Vasilije Micic - and if he’s the best Euroleague has to offer and hasn’t been signed by an NBA team already, then he probably isn’t worth signing either.

Did I miss anyone? Schröder and Rubio are better than anyone I found.

[Kuberski33]

There aren’t very many floor general type point guards in the NBA anymore. Most are scorers. Pass 1st guards coming out seem to be older players and get taken in the 2nd round.

How about a scorer who can also pass?

[hpantazo]

Tyrese Haliburton would be a great fit. He'd be hard to pry away but if the Kings are considering trading him, the Celtics should jump at it.

[hwangjini_1]

Bane could've run the point.

are you referring to desmond banes? the guy is averaging 2.0 assists a game over his first two years in the nba? The guy who averaged 2.4 assist a game over his 4 years in college ball?

Smart's averaging 4 for his career. Bane is however shooting 41% from 3 while Smart is shooting 29%. You couldn't get Bane for Smart and a 1st round pick.

i do not disagree with your statement immediately above. but it doesn't address my point on whether bane is a good choice run the point.

[hwangjini_1]

There aren’t very many floor general type point guards in the NBA anymore. Most are scorers. Pass 1st guards coming out seem to be older players and get taken in the 2nd round.

How about a scorer who can also pass?

no, no!!! it should be a passer who can also score!!! 

[mr. dee]

There aren’t very many floor general type point guards in the NBA anymore. Most are scorers. Pass 1st guards coming out seem to be older players and get taken in the 2nd round.

Drafting a guy like that isn’t going to help the Celtics anytime soon and there aren’t many available via trade either.

So I looked at Euroleague guards that might have enough experience and skill to lead an NBA team, but the pickings are slim there too. A bunch of over 30 guys with experience that aren’t NBA athletes. Some NBA rejects like Shelvin Mack and Sergio Rodriguez. Yam Madar is probably as good an option as any.

Only one guy might be good enough to consider - Vasilije Micic - and if he’s the best Euroleague has to offer and hasn’t been signed by an NBA team already, then he probably isn’t worth signing either.

Did I miss anyone? Schröder and Rubio are better than anyone I found.

A pure past-first PG is now a  relic of the past. However, there are PGs that can read the right plays. They are usually a PG that were accustomed on playing in an organized offensive system. (See guys like Rubio, Brogdon, Lowry, Conley, Mills, etc).

Enough of low IQ shoot-first PGs.

[LilRip]

There aren’t very many floor general type point guards in the NBA anymore. Most are scorers. Pass 1st guards coming out seem to be older players and get taken in the 2nd round.

Drafting a guy like that isn’t going to help the Celtics anytime soon and there aren’t many available via trade either.

So I looked at Euroleague guards that might have enough experience and skill to lead an NBA team, but the pickings are slim there too. A bunch of over 30 guys with experience that aren’t NBA athletes. Some NBA rejects like Shelvin Mack and Sergio Rodriguez. Yam Madar is probably as good an option as any.

Only one guy might be good enough to consider - Vasilije Micic - and if he’s the best Euroleague has to offer and hasn’t been signed by an NBA team already, then he probably isn’t worth signing either.

Did I miss anyone? Schröder and Rubio are better than anyone I found.

A pure past-first PG is now a  relic of the past. However, there are PGs that can read the right plays. They are usually a PG that were accustomed on playing in an organized offensive system. (See guys like Rubio, Brogdon, Lowry, Conley, Mills, etc).

Enough of low IQ shoot-first PGs.

John Wall if he gets bought out this coming offseason (ala Kemba Walker)?

[moiso]

There aren’t very many floor general type point guards in the NBA anymore. Most are scorers. Pass 1st guards coming out seem to be older players and get taken in the 2nd round.

Drafting a guy like that isn’t going to help the Celtics anytime soon and there aren’t many available via trade either.

So I looked at Euroleague guards that might have enough experience and skill to lead an NBA team, but the pickings are slim there too. A bunch of over 30 guys with experience that aren’t NBA athletes. Some NBA rejects like Shelvin Mack and Sergio Rodriguez. Yam Madar is probably as good an option as any.

Only one guy might be good enough to consider - Vasilije Micic - and if he’s the best Euroleague has to offer and hasn’t been signed by an NBA team already, then he probably isn’t worth signing either.

Did I miss anyone? Schröder and Rubio are better than anyone I found.

A pure past-first PG is now a  relic of the past. However, there are PGs that can read the right plays. They are usually a PG that were accustomed on playing in an organized offensive system. (See guys like Rubio, Brogdon, Lowry, Conley, Mills, etc).

Enough of low IQ shoot-first PGs.

John Wall if he gets bought out this coming offseason (ala Kemba Walker)?

I think he'd look to score too much.  He still wants to prove that he's John freaking Wall.  I bet he'd be thinking of himself a little too much.

[radiohead]

How about a guy like Brogdon or Levert? It would probably take at least Smart to pry either one away from the Pacers. Both are injury prone though.

[SHAQATTACK]

How about a guy like Brogdon or Levert? It would probably take at least Smart to pry either one away from the Pacers. Both are injury prone though.

I wanted C’s to draft Bronson .  He always seemed like a CBS Ainge player with decent size .

[Wretch]

The more I watch the more I think Sabonis. Obviously a pass first PG would be optimal but Sabonis is such a good passer that the C's could run the offense through him. Problem it I don't think the pacers would be interested in what the C's have to offer in terms of players. They might have an interest in Smart but I'm not sure BS would do that trade. He seems to like Smart as a player, even with his glaring offensive shortcomings.

[tonydelk]

Point guard play is what we need. Smart is a six man. Who do we trade for is the question?

This is exactly what I've been saying.  They need an upgrade at PG but there's not much out there available.  Would Dragic help?  Rubio would have been a great fit.  Lillard would be awesome but you'd need to probably move Brown.  Lillard and Tatum would not be enough to win a championship same with Simmons.  Fox from Sac if he's available would be ideal but the C's don't have the young assets to get him.  Westbrook?  Can't stand his game.  IMO not going after Brogdon when they signed Kemba was the mistake.  He's always been my favorite fit for this team.  Can shoot, pass and play D.  The final player that I think is perfect is Dejonte Murray from the Spurs.  Big, Long, can shoot and provide spacing for the J's.  Not sure the C's have the package the Spurs would want but man he'd be great on this team.

I honestly don't think the long term PG the C's will have is on this team.  I would say they would draft one but I don't think this is a strong year for PG's coming out. 

[Ed Monix]

I wanted C’s to draft Bronson. He always seemed like a CBS Ainge player with decent size.

Well, drafting Bronson worked out well for ‘The Andy Griffith Show’…so you make a good point.