Should the Cs waive Parker before his deal gets guaranteed

[liam]

I'd really like to add a bench 7 footer to the roster in place of Parker.

Isn't Enes already that guy? Is two more inches going to mean that much given Enes is an elite rebounder and garbage man offensively?

Wouldn’t you rather have two Freedoms than one Freedom and one Parker? At least the extra Freedom might have a shred of trade value.

More Freedoms!

[Surferdad]

I'd really like to add a bench 7 footer to the roster in place of Parker.

Isn't Enes already that guy? Is two more inches going to mean that much given Enes is an elite rebounder and garbage man offensively?

Enes should be a rotation player on this roster.

"Big-dude-at-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel" is a classic role on the old Celtics.  Anyone remember Bruno Sundov?  More recently, Vitor Faverani and even Tacko Fall.  We need a guy like that!

[Redz]

I'd really like to add a bench 7 footer to the roster in place of Parker.

Isn't Enes already that guy? Is two more inches going to mean that much given Enes is an elite rebounder and garbage man offensively?

Enes should be a rotation player on this roster.

"Big-dude-at-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel" is a classic role on the old Celtics.  Anyone remember Bruno Sundov?  More recently, Vitor Faverani and even Tacko Fall.  We need a guy like that!

Greg Kite, best ever in that role.

[todd_days_41]

I'd really like to add a bench 7 footer to the roster in place of Parker.

Isn't Enes already that guy? Is two more inches going to mean that much given Enes is an elite rebounder and garbage man offensively?

Enes should be a rotation player on this roster.

"Big-dude-at-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel" is a classic role on the old Celtics.  Anyone remember Bruno Sundov?  More recently, Vitor Faverani and even Tacko Fall.  We need a guy like that!

Greg Kite, best ever in that role.

Bruno excelled in that role. Greg, also good. Brad Lohaus was also highly skilled in this capacity. Semih Erden possessed some value here, as well.

[Atzar]

I'd really like to add a bench 7 footer to the roster in place of Parker.

Isn't Enes already that guy? Is two more inches going to mean that much given Enes is an elite rebounder and garbage man offensively?

Enes should be a rotation player on this roster.

"Big-dude-at-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel" is a classic role on the old Celtics.  Anyone remember Bruno Sundov?  More recently, Vitor Faverani and even Tacko Fall.  We need a guy like that!

Greg Kite, best ever in that role.

Bruno excelled in that role. Greg, also good. Brad Lohaus was also highly skilled in this capacity. Semih Erden possessed some value here, as well.

I'd toss Guershon Yabusele and Scot Pollard into this conversation too.

[hardlyyardley]

Kite, Kleine, Lohaus , Fernsten, etc

DWBC

[todd_days_41]

I'd really like to add a bench 7 footer to the roster in place of Parker.

Isn't Enes already that guy? Is two more inches going to mean that much given Enes is an elite rebounder and garbage man offensively?

Enes should be a rotation player on this roster.

"Big-dude-at-end-of-the-bench-waving-a-towel" is a classic role on the old Celtics.  Anyone remember Bruno Sundov?  More recently, Vitor Faverani and even Tacko Fall.  We need a guy like that!

Greg Kite, best ever in that role.

Bruno excelled in that role. Greg, also good. Brad Lohaus was also highly skilled in this capacity. Semih Erden possessed some value here, as well.

I'd toss Guershon Yabusele and Scot Pollard into this conversation too.

Pollard yes. Yabu? I was thinking 'big' meant tall, not round.

[Smartacus]

Count me as a no on waiving him. I see a world where Jabari Parker will play legitimate minutes for a stretch in a playoff game where the offense has stagnated and we just need some buckets while Tatum and Brown take a breather.

Is that worth a roster spot? Depends on how much you care about this year's playoffs.

I also subscribe to the belief that if the Celtics trade Schroeder and either Romeo or Nesmith at the deadline there could be some legitimate minutes opened up for Parker. IMO he is a much better player than his salary would dictate.

[jambr380]

Probably won't matter much to ownership (money-wise) if they plan on trading Schroeder.

With the lack of minutes for Nesmith, PP, and Hauser when everyone's healthy, I don't think they need to have another 10-day prospect in the mix. I'd be fine with him staying as a deep bench guy.

Without the numbers directly in front of me, I was under the impression that we were over the tax more than Schroder is being paid and less than Juancho is being paid.

Of course we'd all rather trade Juancho for nothing in return, but that isn't going to happen. The next best scenario is dealing Schroder for a couple of 2nds and releasing Parker. I like Parker, but we can't let his salary get in the way of having an easy way to get under the tax. The fact that Ime seemingly would prefer to play me in an NBA game over Parker makes this kind-of an obvious move.

[Jiri Welsch]

Probably won't matter much to ownership (money-wise) if they plan on trading Schroeder.

With the lack of minutes for Nesmith, PP, and Hauser when everyone's healthy, I don't think they need to have another 10-day prospect in the mix. I'd be fine with him staying as a deep bench guy.

Without the numbers directly in front of me, I was under the impression that we were over the tax more than Schroder is being paid and less than Juancho is being paid.

Of course we'd all rather trade Juancho for nothing in return, but that isn't going to happen. The next best scenario is dealing Schroder for a couple of 2nds and releasing Parker. I like Parker, but we can't let his salary get in the way of having an easy way to get under the tax. The fact that Ime seemingly would prefer to play me in an NBA game over Parker makes this kind-of an obvious move.

Oh I was under the impression that cutting Parker or keeping Parker won't ultimately make a difference for the tax. And that it really comes down to moving Schroeder and Hernangomez for as little salary as possible at the deadline.

If Parker really is the kicker between getting under the tax or staying above, then I agree he definitely should go.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Not really getting all the hate on Parker. I don’t expect him to get minutes over Tatum, Horford, or Grant, but when Jabari has played, He has not looked bad at all.

In 12 games he’s shooting 47% from the field, 50% from 3pt and 100% from the line. What more do you want from a 3rd stringer.

I agree. He's a better scorer than most of the guys on the team (including some of the starters), certainly the most potent scorer on the bench.

Scoring is the only thing Parker can do. And yet, he's 12th on the team in scoring, averaging 4.4ppg for a team that has had major COVID issues (and therefore plenty of opportunity for playing time).

That he's a better scorer than guys who can't score doesn't make him worth keeping, considering he's awful in other areas. He literally has no future on a team with no immediate need for marginal veterans.

There are G-leaguers more deserving of a roster spot.

Hard to imagine Wyc and Brad won't prefer to save the tax $$$ over paying their 15th payer. I suspect they'd rather have Joe Johnson, if nothing else.

He's so low because the coach pretty much refuses to play him, even when the team is going through big scoring droughts. I would say Ime keeps him benched because of his subpar D, yet Ime play Freedom, who's by no means a stellar defender. This team has had plenty of times when they desperately needed an offensive boost, something Jabari is ideal for, yet Ime keeps him glued to the bench. That's a bad coaching decision, IMO. I like Jabari on the Cs, but if he's not gonna get to play, I'd just as soon see him cut loose so he can get a shot elsewhere.

[todd_days_41]

regardless of the debate here, I'd be surprised if the Cs didn't waive him all things considered.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

regardless of the debate here, I'd be surprised if the Cs didn't waive him all things considered.

I agree. There are cheaper options for a roster spot (player) that's basically not going to be utilized.

[jambr380]

Probably won't matter much to ownership (money-wise) if they plan on trading Schroeder.

With the lack of minutes for Nesmith, PP, and Hauser when everyone's healthy, I don't think they need to have another 10-day prospect in the mix. I'd be fine with him staying as a deep bench guy.

Without the numbers directly in front of me, I was under the impression that we were over the tax more than Schroder is being paid and less than Juancho is being paid.

Of course we'd all rather trade Juancho for nothing in return, but that isn't going to happen. The next best scenario is dealing Schroder for a couple of 2nds and releasing Parker. I like Parker, but we can't let his salary get in the way of having an easy way to get under the tax. The fact that Ime seemingly would prefer to play me in an NBA game over Parker makes this kind-of an obvious move.

Oh I was under the impression that cutting Parker or keeping Parker won't ultimately make a difference for the tax. And that it really comes down to moving Schroeder and Hernangomez for as little salary as possible at the deadline.

If Parker really is the kicker between getting under the tax or staying above, then I agree he definitely should go.

Re-reading what I wrote, I can see how it may have come as a complete mess. I looked it up and the luxury tax this season is: $136,606,000 and the Cs are currently at $142,925,171.

Schroder makes $5,890,000 and Hernangomez makes $7,012,440. If you subtract Schroder's full salary from the C's payroll, you get: $137,035,171 - which is still above the tax. Subtracting Hernangomez's salary gets you to: $135,912,731 - which, obviously, is below the tax.

Of course if we could trade Juancho and take absolutely nothing back, that would be awesome. He seems like a nice guy, but he has been pretty useless to our team this season. The other option is to trade Schroder - as is being discussed recently in the forums (PTDS) - but you also need to shed a bit more salary, and waiving Parker is the easiest way to get you there.

[todd_days_41]

I’ve read in multiple laces that JH makes $6.1M, not $7.1M. Which is it?