Ime has got to go!

[Goldstar88]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately, which has been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500. those  that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

[droopdog7]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

[ozgod]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

Here's our schedule and results since the start of the year, with footnotes of who was in/out or made an impact, from www.basketball-reference.com. I just put it in an Excel sheet to make it easier to track and added the W/L of the opponents at the time we played them. Over this period we are 17-6, of which 7 of the 17 had winning records so our record against winning teams is 7-2.

If we want to qualify those wins we should say that 2 of them were against Charlotte who have slid out of the top 8, Brooklyn who have lost 11 in a row, 1 against a Chicago team missing Lonzo and LaVine, and a Miami team missing Buckets. The flip side to doing that is that we lost games earlier in the season where we didn't have a healthy team due to Covid and other issues and nobody qualified anything for us. End of the day we have to play who we have to play, and get results, and they have definitely been building winning habits - most importantly we have only won 6 of 17 games this season where we shot less than .300 from 3, and 3 of those wins came in the last 4 games (Orl, Den, Atl).

So definitely trending up as you say, with some bigger tests to come on the horizon to give us more information on whether it's a genuine improvement or a false dawn and so everyone can resume wrist slitting again 



*just noticed I'm using "they" and "we" interchangeably - bad habit of mine 

[Goldstar88]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

[Neurotic Guy]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

I think Celtics are better and on the right road but I’m not convinced that some of what made them a .500 team through 50 games is no longer a factor.  Let’s play some teams that are solid and healthy and see how the Cs hold up. 

Not expecting a win v. Philly tomorrow but want to see evidence that C’s can play at their level for the better part of 48 minutes.  I hope Harden is able to play.

[Ed Monix]

Udoka’s ranking through his first 58 games as the head coach of the Celtics;

[Goldstar88]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

It’s not shade, man. Just pointing out  that all of those teams you just listed were missing starting players. C’s were at full strength.

[droopdog7]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

The C's have won 7 out of the past 23 games by 19 or more.  Point differential, which is what I'm getting at, is 11 over that span.   That would lead the league over the season (but yes, that's an if).  As I'm sure you know, point differential is a very important predictor.

So in the aggregate, I'd say beating a bad team by 30 is just as important/predictive as beating a good team by 2. 

[angryguy77]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

They are trending up and I've enjoyed seeing the last few games. However, there were many times during those games where the timely 3's fell keeping them in or extending the lead. A win is a win I get it, but they are going to have games where those shots don't fall in the playoffs. Will they adjust and take higher % shots? My experience watching them over the years tells me no.

Hopefully they make my comments look stupid.

[Celtics2021]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

I think Celtics are better and on the right road but I’m not convinced that some of what made them a .500 team through 50 games is no longer a factor.  Let’s play some teams that are solid and healthy and see how the Cs hold up. 

Not expecting a win v. Philly tomorrow but want to see evidence that C’s can play at their level for the better part of 48 minutes.  I hope Harden is able to play.

Harden is reportedly out so my understanding is the game doesn’t count if we win.

[droopdog7]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

I think Celtics are better and on the right road but I’m not convinced that some of what made them a .500 team through 50 games is no longer a factor.  Let’s play some teams that are solid and healthy and see how the Cs hold up. 

Not expecting a win v. Philly tomorrow but want to see evidence that C’s can play at their level for the better part of 48 minutes.  I hope Harden is able to play.

Harden is reportedly out so my understanding is the game doesn’t count if we win.

Yup. But if we lose, woah baby!

[Goldstar88]

Udoka’s ranking through his first 58 games as the head coach of the Celtics;

Ime has been better lately, but...How many of the coaches below him took over a roster with 2 all star wings and a team that has been in the playoffs 4 years in a row?

[Goldstar88]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

I think Celtics are better and on the right road but I’m not convinced that some of what made them a .500 team through 50 games is no longer a factor.  Let’s play some teams that are solid and healthy and see how the Cs hold up. 

Not expecting a win v. Philly tomorrow but want to see evidence that C’s can play at their level for the better part of 48 minutes.  I hope Harden is able to play.

Harden is reportedly out so my understanding is the game doesn’t count if we win.

It counts as win, but I’m not going to ignore the fact that the other team is missing starting players. Just saying that I’d like to see them beat out a team that isn’t handicapped by not having a major piece in their lineup. I don’t know why that’s being viewed as something negative.

[droopdog7]

He has the team playing very good defense, but I’m still not loving the offense. Team is just outside of the top 10 in 3pt shot attempts(36.5), and the only team in the league that takes more 3’s(37.7) and shoots a worse percentage than Boston is OKC. C’s are 24th out of 30 teams for the worst 3pt percentage in the NBA.

When the C’s go up against playoff caliber teams, taking and missing so many 3’s will cost them games.

All of this. When the 3's don't fall, they have no plan B. This will catch up to them.

Well since they're 24th in 3PT% that means the 3's aren't typically falling. And they're still ranked 10th in offense and able to win more than they lose. Seems like something good is happening.

The team has been looking good lately and it’s been a lot of fun to watch. Only thing is, they haven’t really been tested during the win streak as only a few teams that they’ve beaten have records over .500 and those that they have beat, were missing major pieces while the C’s on the other hand have been healthy.

Destroying bad teams, which they have done plenty lately, is just as good a sign as beating good teams.  The Celts are absolutely trending up.

So beating Orlando by 20+ is the same as beating the Suns or Warriors? Sorry, I’m going to have to disagree with you there. The C’s are trending upward, but they have not faced a real test during this win streak.

Hawks and Nuggets? Hornets? Or what about when they beat the Bulls?

There always a reason to throw shade for Celtics fans.

I think Celtics are better and on the right road but I’m not convinced that some of what made them a .500 team through 50 games is no longer a factor.  Let’s play some teams that are solid and healthy and see how the Cs hold up. 

Not expecting a win v. Philly tomorrow but want to see evidence that C’s can play at their level for the better part of 48 minutes.  I hope Harden is able to play.

Harden is reportedly out so my understanding is the game doesn’t count if we win.

It counts as win, but I’m not going to ignore the fact that the other team is missing starting players. Just saying is that I’d like to see them beat out a team that isn’t handicapped by not having a major piece in their lineup. I don’t know why that’s being viewed as something negative.

But what if we win by 20? Don't matter?