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NHL on pause
« on: December 20, 2021, 11:49:47 PM »

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NHL has gone on pause for next 5 days. Really hope the nba follows suit and does a few day pause after Christmas or before to get this under control. Celtics definitely win this game tonight with Horford, Williams and time lord not out with Covid. Also just don’t want it to get worse.

Re: NHL on pause
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2021, 06:25:51 AM »

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Nothing is going to change in 5 days.

Just get on with it.

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.

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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2021, 02:10:41 PM »

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.
NFL is going to kill them ratings wise on Christmas this year, so I'm not sure that is a real good reason to go forward. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2021, 02:19:40 PM »

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.
NFL is going to kill them ratings wise on Christmas this year, so I'm not sure that is a real good reason to go forward.
Might have wanted to look at the schedule before posting this. NFL has only a 4:30 and an 8:00 game. The 8:00 game is only on the NFL Network, severely curtailing any conflict against NBA telecasts. And the 4:30 game is Packers v Browns, not exactly a marquee matchup. Meanwhile the NBA have 12:00, 2:30 and 10:30 games running unopposed with marquee matches at 5:00 and 8:00 with the 8:00 game being on ABC and ESPN vs the NFL game on NFLNet.

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2021, 02:47:24 PM »

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I have tickets to see the Rangers and Lightning on the 2nd. Let's see how that turns out.  :P

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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2021, 02:51:49 PM »

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On a side note, I wonder what happens if the NFL playoffs actually gets impacted by COVID too. I mean, surely if someone like Brady or Mahomes tests positive for COVID before a playoff game they wouldn't play it with a backup... right?

The fact that they've already had to reschedule some games is telling.

At least the NBA and NHL can kind of afford some brief pauses as the playoffs aren't close and both leagues still have more than 50% of the season left.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2021, 04:22:58 PM »

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.
NFL is going to kill them ratings wise on Christmas this year, so I'm not sure that is a real good reason to go forward.
Might have wanted to look at the schedule before posting this. NFL has only a 4:30 and an 8:00 game. The 8:00 game is only on the NFL Network, severely curtailing any conflict against NBA telecasts. And the 4:30 game is Packers v Browns, not exactly a marquee matchup. Meanwhile the NBA have 12:00, 2:30 and 10:30 games running unopposed with marquee matches at 5:00 and 8:00 with the 8:00 game being on ABC and ESPN vs the NFL game on NFLNet.
I stand by my statement.  The NFL will significantly outdraw the NBA.  It will not be close.  The Packers/Browns game will be the most watched television event on Christmas and by a wide margin.  Fox is going to have massive ratings for that game.  The Warriors v. Suns game is going to be completely overshadowed and that very well may be the game of the year in the NBA.  And frankly the lead in to the Packers game will significantly hamper the Bucks viewership in the 230 game against the Celtics.  The Nets/Lakers will do ok because as you say the Colts/Cardinals game is on the NFL network, but that is the only game that is going to draw well (and that even probably hinges a great deal on Lebron and KD actually playing in it).  The Hawks/Knicks is too early (and isn't a great game) and the Mavericks/Jazz game is too late (especially in the east) and just isn't a big draw. NFL is king.  It is the only consistent thing in television ratings right now (at least in the US). 
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2021, 06:07:13 PM »

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.
NFL is going to kill them ratings wise on Christmas this year, so I'm not sure that is a real good reason to go forward.
Might have wanted to look at the schedule before posting this. NFL has only a 4:30 and an 8:00 game. The 8:00 game is only on the NFL Network, severely curtailing any conflict against NBA telecasts. And the 4:30 game is Packers v Browns, not exactly a marquee matchup. Meanwhile the NBA have 12:00, 2:30 and 10:30 games running unopposed with marquee matches at 5:00 and 8:00 with the 8:00 game being on ABC and ESPN vs the NFL game on NFLNet.
I stand by my statement.  The NFL will significantly outdraw the NBA.  It will not be close.  The Packers/Browns game will be the most watched television event on Christmas and by a wide margin.  Fox is going to have massive ratings for that game.  The Warriors v. Suns game is going to be completely overshadowed and that very well may be the game of the year in the NBA.  And frankly the lead in to the Packers game will significantly hamper the Bucks viewership in the 230 game against the Celtics.  The Nets/Lakers will do ok because as you say the Colts/Cardinals game is on the NFL network, but that is the only game that is going to draw well (and that even probably hinges a great deal on Lebron and KD actually playing in it).  The Hawks/Knicks is too early (and isn't a great game) and the Mavericks/Jazz game is too late (especially in the east) and just isn't a big draw. NFL is king.  It is the only consistent thing in television ratings right now (at least in the US).

This is surprising.

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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2021, 02:39:04 PM »

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Lance Stephenson, Joe Johnson, Brandon Knight back in the league. Nets now have had 3 straight games postponed. What a glorious strategy by the league to keep rolling along.

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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2021, 12:56:12 PM »

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.
NFL is going to kill them ratings wise on Christmas this year, so I'm not sure that is a real good reason to go forward.
Might have wanted to look at the schedule before posting this. NFL has only a 4:30 and an 8:00 game. The 8:00 game is only on the NFL Network, severely curtailing any conflict against NBA telecasts. And the 4:30 game is Packers v Browns, not exactly a marquee matchup. Meanwhile the NBA have 12:00, 2:30 and 10:30 games running unopposed with marquee matches at 5:00 and 8:00 with the 8:00 game being on ABC and ESPN vs the NFL game on NFLNet.
I stand by my statement.  The NFL will significantly outdraw the NBA.  It will not be close.  The Packers/Browns game will be the most watched television event on Christmas and by a wide margin.  Fox is going to have massive ratings for that game.  The Warriors v. Suns game is going to be completely overshadowed and that very well may be the game of the year in the NBA.  And frankly the lead in to the Packers game will significantly hamper the Bucks viewership in the 230 game against the Celtics.  The Nets/Lakers will do ok because as you say the Colts/Cardinals game is on the NFL network, but that is the only game that is going to draw well (and that even probably hinges a great deal on Lebron and KD actually playing in it).  The Hawks/Knicks is too early (and isn't a great game) and the Mavericks/Jazz game is too late (especially in the east) and just isn't a big draw. NFL is king.  It is the only consistent thing in television ratings right now (at least in the US).

This is surprising.
What is surprising about this?

For some background, Game 6 of the NBA Finals drew just under 12.5 million viewers (that was the most viewers of any of the games).  The 430 pm game last Sunday between Green Bay and Baltimore had over 22 million viewers on Fox (same channel as the Packers/Browns).  Last year on Christmas, the best drawing game of the day peaked at just under 4 million viewers (that was the Lakers and Mavs).  Now that was down from prior years, but the Lakers with Lebron and Davis against Kawhi, George, and the Clippers on Christmas in 2019 (i.e. before Covid) averaged right around 7 million viewers.  I'm not even convinced the Cardinals/Colts game won't outdraw the NBA games even with it just being on the NFL Network.  I mean the Patriots/Colts game last Saturday, which was only on the NFL Network (outside of home markets) had over 7 million viewers.  Now maybe the Cardinals/Colts isn't quite the same draw and there is a really good NBA game as competition, but I wouldn't be surprised if that game outdrew the Nets/Lakers game in the head to head (it is probably the more likely scenario). 

I'm not saying this will happen, but it is entirely possible that the Packers/Browns game could have more viewers than all 5 of the NBA games combined, especially if it draws anywhere near to what the Packers/Ravens game drew. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2021, 12:59:47 PM »

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Lance Stephenson, Joe Johnson, Brandon Knight back in the league. Nets now have had 3 straight games postponed. What a glorious strategy by the league to keep rolling along.

How are the Nets allowed to postpone while everyone else has to keep playing with replacement players?

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2021, 01:08:48 PM »

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Lance Stephenson, Joe Johnson, Brandon Knight back in the league. Nets now have had 3 straight games postponed. What a glorious strategy by the league to keep rolling along.

How are the Nets allowed to postpone while everyone else has to keep playing with replacement players?

That's what I've been wondering for a while now.

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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2021, 05:31:54 PM »

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Can't help but wonder, Clay, if the NBA's motive for making teams sign G-League or worse players to continue the season has anything to do with making sure they have 5 games to show on national networks on Xmas Day.

Seems like shutting down the whole season for a two week pause a few days back made sense but, their national media partners probably wouldn't be very happy losing out on those massive Xmas Day ratings.
NFL is going to kill them ratings wise on Christmas this year, so I'm not sure that is a real good reason to go forward.
Might have wanted to look at the schedule before posting this. NFL has only a 4:30 and an 8:00 game. The 8:00 game is only on the NFL Network, severely curtailing any conflict against NBA telecasts. And the 4:30 game is Packers v Browns, not exactly a marquee matchup. Meanwhile the NBA have 12:00, 2:30 and 10:30 games running unopposed with marquee matches at 5:00 and 8:00 with the 8:00 game being on ABC and ESPN vs the NFL game on NFLNet.
I stand by my statement.  The NFL will significantly outdraw the NBA.  It will not be close.  The Packers/Browns game will be the most watched television event on Christmas and by a wide margin.  Fox is going to have massive ratings for that game.  The Warriors v. Suns game is going to be completely overshadowed and that very well may be the game of the year in the NBA.  And frankly the lead in to the Packers game will significantly hamper the Bucks viewership in the 230 game against the Celtics.  The Nets/Lakers will do ok because as you say the Colts/Cardinals game is on the NFL network, but that is the only game that is going to draw well (and that even probably hinges a great deal on Lebron and KD actually playing in it).  The Hawks/Knicks is too early (and isn't a great game) and the Mavericks/Jazz game is too late (especially in the east) and just isn't a big draw. NFL is king.  It is the only consistent thing in television ratings right now (at least in the US).

This is surprising.
What is surprising about this?

For some background, Game 6 of the NBA Finals drew just under 12.5 million viewers (that was the most viewers of any of the games).  The 430 pm game last Sunday between Green Bay and Baltimore had over 22 million viewers on Fox (same channel as the Packers/Browns).  Last year on Christmas, the best drawing game of the day peaked at just under 4 million viewers (that was the Lakers and Mavs).  Now that was down from prior years, but the Lakers with Lebron and Davis against Kawhi, George, and the Clippers on Christmas in 2019 (i.e. before Covid) averaged right around 7 million viewers.  I'm not even convinced the Cardinals/Colts game won't outdraw the NBA games even with it just being on the NFL Network.  I mean the Patriots/Colts game last Saturday, which was only on the NFL Network (outside of home markets) had over 7 million viewers.  Now maybe the Cardinals/Colts isn't quite the same draw and there is a really good NBA game as competition, but I wouldn't be surprised if that game outdrew the Nets/Lakers game in the head to head (it is probably the more likely scenario). 

I'm not saying this will happen, but it is entirely possible that the Packers/Browns game could have more viewers than all 5 of the NBA games combined, especially if it draws anywhere near to what the Packers/Ravens game drew.

It’s kind of a completely hypothetical argument at this point because  the nba games are going to either be canceled or
Missing their stars. I agree if it is the gleague nets against the lakers the numbers will be horrible. I was mainly objecting to your point that the leadin to the packers game would impact the Celtics. There is no other way to say it, but that is an idiotic take. Any bar in America would create enraged customers if they switched to pregame coverage of football game over a live nba game two hours before it started (or turner it off 4th quarter for the anthem) Furthermore I would get really angry if I was at a gathering and someone demanded to watch the pregame show for two hours before the game started (and just to be clear I am a huge nfl fan also) I honestly have no idea how you could seriously think that. Was it just a joke? Will this be the first time you ever admit you were being ridiculous?