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Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2021, 03:56:01 PM »

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Sounds like an entirely different job than what he had here as GM.  I don't read this as "sick of running the Celtics" at all.  If he had gone and sought out a GM job elsewhere, sure.

Same.  Even if it was.  He was here for 18 years.  Sometimes people just want a change of scenery.  Especially in their later years after having health issues.

lol…..you guys are just too stubborn to accept evidence based facts.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2021, 04:00:14 PM »

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a tom Brady move.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2021, 04:25:30 PM »

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It was time for Danny to part ways with Boston, but the the whole “retiring” thing was clearly to save face. Otherwise. Why couldn’t he have been the CEO or a consultant for the C’s? I will always be grateful to Danny for the 08’ championship and for drafting the J’s, but I’m glad that ownership decided to move on from him. Have been happy with GM Brad, thus far.
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Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2021, 04:33:45 PM »

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I have this weird thing that when a person is involved with one of the team's I love, I love them, but as soon as they move on, get traded, whatever, I just do not follow or care about them anymore.

Loved Rondo, any old timers on this site will tell you how much I loved and defended the guy on this site. It was very much like my Jaylen Brown love. But once Rondo was traded....boom....dead to me. Didn't follow or care about him in the least. Doc, Pierce and KG too. Just three guys that used to coach and play for my Celtics.

So for me, I could not care less where Danny is now working or why or why he isn't still working here. He's gone. Blah, blah, blah...Utah. Whatever.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2021, 04:38:13 PM »

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Sounds like an entirely different job than what he had here as GM.  I don't read this as "sick of running the Celtics" at all.  If he had gone and sought out a GM job elsewhere, sure.

Same.  Even if it was.  He was here for 18 years.  Sometimes people just want a change of scenery.  Especially in their later years after having health issues.

lol…..you guys are just too stubborn to accept evidence based facts.
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Seriously m8, chill.

I don't mind disagreeing but this ain't the way.

Danny said his role was a bit much and he re-thought things after having heart issues. That's a fact.

You can draw your own conclusions from different facts, but the above is the factiest fact of them all, as it is the person himself, talking about himself and his decision.

Now, you can say "he lied" but you can also assume that people don't lie full-time.

Up to you of course. But don't go calling other people stubborn when you're the one reading the tea leaves.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2021, 04:42:11 PM »

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It was time for Danny to part ways with Boston, but the the whole “retiring” thing was clearly to save face. Otherwise. Why couldn’t he have been the CEO or a consultant for the C’s? I will always be grateful to Danny for the 08’ championship and for drafting the J’s, but I’m glad that ownership decided to move on from him. Have been happy with GM Brad, thus far.

Because a move like that, within a company, doesn't work like that.

When you're so intrinsically integrated into an organisation, you simply *can not* take a step back.

The reasons are multitude. Anyone will tell you that a change in title 99% of the time means nothing. You'll still be the person people come to, to talk about X because you know the most about it. You'll still be involved in all the things you were because, well, you're the one that does it best. Etc.

This dominoes into "maybe do this as well". Let's say he goes into the CEO role. Now you're suddenly CEO/assistant GM/president of player opps.

It's just a lot.

And like others have mentioned before; when's the last time you worked 18 years for one org? Never thought about a change in scenery?

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2021, 05:10:41 PM »

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It was time for Danny to part ways with Boston, but the the whole “retiring” thing was clearly to save face. Otherwise. Why couldn’t he have been the CEO or a consultant for the C’s? I will always be grateful to Danny for the 08’ championship and for drafting the J’s, but I’m glad that ownership decided to move on from him. Have been happy with GM Brad, thus far.

Because a move like that, within a company, doesn't work like that.

When you're so intrinsically integrated into an organisation, you simply *can not* take a step back.

The reasons are multitude. Anyone will tell you that a change in title 99% of the time means nothing. You'll still be the person people come to, to talk about X because you know the most about it. You'll still be involved in all the things you were because, well, you're the one that does it best. Etc.

This dominoes into "maybe do this as well". Let's say he goes into the CEO role. Now you're suddenly CEO/assistant GM/president of player opps.

It's just a lot.

And like others have mentioned before; when's the last time you worked 18 years for one org? Never thought about a change in scenery?
Case in point to this, Dirk, is Red Auerbach. He stepped back away from power, but when he wanted, he still had say about certain things and that led to Joseph Forte being drafted instead of Tony Parker.

It's best to leave and if you want a different position, get it with another team.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2021, 05:14:22 PM »

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It was time for Danny to part ways with Boston, but the the whole “retiring” thing was clearly to save face. Otherwise. Why couldn’t he have been the CEO or a consultant for the C’s? I will always be grateful to Danny for the 08’ championship and for drafting the J’s, but I’m glad that ownership decided to move on from him. Have been happy with GM Brad, thus far.

Because a move like that, within a company, doesn't work like that.

When you're so intrinsically integrated into an organisation, you simply *can not* take a step back.

The reasons are multitude. Anyone will tell you that a change in title 99% of the time means nothing. You'll still be the person people come to, to talk about X because you know the most about it. You'll still be involved in all the things you were because, well, you're the one that does it best. Etc.

This dominoes into "maybe do this as well". Let's say he goes into the CEO role. Now you're suddenly CEO/assistant GM/president of player opps.

It's just a lot.

And like others have mentioned before; when's the last time you worked 18 years for one org? Never thought about a change in scenery?

I’ve seen this happen many times with different companies that I’ve worked for. For example, About a year ago our VP of Sales who is close to retirement age stepped back and requested to be a regional manager as he didn’t want to deal with the stress and responsibility of being in charge of the entire sales force. So the company promoted a somewhat younger individual to take his position, and the prior VP of Sales is now a regional manager until he is ready to retire. Last company I worked for made the CFO who was going to be retiring in a few years, a COO and then hired a new CFO that was 20 years younger. Better believe their roles changed as their title did.

C’s could have easily let Brad take over the day to day as GM and given Danny an advisory role with reduced responsibilities. Clippers brought in Jerry West to work with their GM a few year back as team consultant. Seems to be working well for them.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2021, 05:16:33 PM »

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Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2021, 05:23:50 PM »

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Utah play a very different brand of basketball than what Ainge was doing here in Boston. Not sure that is a good fit.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2021, 05:31:47 PM »

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Is it really that important to know everyone’s reasoning or motivation for changes?  I’m pretty sure from Wyc to Danny to Brad they all have reasonable explanations for their choices. And I really don’t need to know.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2021, 05:37:05 PM »

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Not too many people resign and give out all the real reasons for leaving. Most pople say keep it sweet and simple. I hope Danny is happy.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2021, 05:42:19 PM »

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I think he lives in Utah, he must want to keep his hand in the game he loves and stay close to home.
No big deal

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2021, 05:46:02 PM »

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It was time for Danny to part ways with Boston, but the the whole “retiring” thing was clearly to save face. Otherwise. Why couldn’t he have been the CEO or a consultant for the C’s? I will always be grateful to Danny for the 08’ championship and for drafting the J’s, but I’m glad that ownership decided to move on from him. Have been happy with GM Brad, thus far.

Because a move like that, within a company, doesn't work like that.

When you're so intrinsically integrated into an organisation, you simply *can not* take a step back.

The reasons are multitude. Anyone will tell you that a change in title 99% of the time means nothing. You'll still be the person people come to, to talk about X because you know the most about it. You'll still be involved in all the things you were because, well, you're the one that does it best. Etc.

This dominoes into "maybe do this as well". Let's say he goes into the CEO role. Now you're suddenly CEO/assistant GM/president of player opps.

It's just a lot.

And like others have mentioned before; when's the last time you worked 18 years for one org? Never thought about a change in scenery?

I’ve seen this happen many times with different companies that I’ve worked for. For example, About a year ago our VP of Sales who is close to retirement age stepped back and requested to be a regional manager as he didn’t want to deal with the stress and responsibility of being in charge of the entire sales force. So the company promoted a somewhat younger individual to take his position, and the prior VP of Sales is now a regional manager until he is ready to retire. Last company I worked for made the CFO who was going to be retiring in a few years, a COO and then hired a new CFO that was 20 years younger. Better believe their roles changed as their title did.

C’s could have easily let Brad take over the day to day as GM and given Danny an advisory role with reduced responsibilities. Clippers brought in Jerry West to work with their GM a few year back as team consultant. Seems to be working well for them.

Stop saying that man. You don't know that. You legit, 100% don't know that for sure.

I'm also talking about this from experience. I'm telling you, it doesn't always work like that.

Re: Danny Ainge new CEO of the Utah Jazz
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2021, 05:46:18 PM »

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The term “alternate governor” implies Danny Ainge will hold an ownership stake in the Utah Jazz.

Cs "dumped" Ainge according to CStrong experts and he went home, landed a better title, and a job position with less work, more money, and a less volatile fan base. A homecoming for a local hero.

Perhaps he jumped ship for a better opportunity?