Small Trade With Houston

[Goldstar88]

I think the C’s should trade for Eric Gordon. This team desperately needs another veteran player that can consistently make shots, especially from deep.

Gordon is shooting nearly 47% from the field and 43% from 3PT. You can Start him with Smart or he can come off the bench. Richardson and Hernangomez for Gordon works in the trade machine and I’d imagine that a couple of second round picks or a protected first would be needed from the C’s.

Starters: Smart, Brown, Tatum, Horford, Timelord

Bench rotation: Schroder, Gordon, Langford, Grant, Kanter.


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[Redz]

Richardson has been a pretty positive player so far.

[Moranis]

I'd rather have Richardson

[Goldstar88]

Richardson has been a pretty positive player so far.

I like Richardson, but he’s shooting 33% from 3pt vs Gordon’s 43%. Eric’s FG% is higher as well. The C’s biggest need is a player that can consistently make baskets. The 3pt shooting this year has been bad and the team continues to fire away from deep.

[todd_days_41]

Pass. Among other things, J Rich is better salary filler in trades.

[nickagneta]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

[Goldstar88]

I'd rather have Richardson

Any particular reason why? I don’t really see anything that Richardson does better than Gordon. Eric would fill a need.

[Redz]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

Would Houston be interested in giving up a high lottery and one of their very few bright spots for a total salary dump deal?

[nickagneta]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

Would Houston be interested in giving up a high lottery and one of their very few bright spots for a total salary dump deal?

Good question Redz. I don't know.

But.....the pick doesn't have to be a high lottery pick. They own a Milwaukee pick and some Brooklyn/Miami picks(Brooklyn/Miami because the pick is a better of type deal). Also, Wood is kinda going to make tanking more difficult and is not on the timeline the Rockets will want to be in given all the picks they own.

So, maybe giving up a mid to late 1st rounder and Wood to dump Wall's contract might be appealing to them.

It's an idea and admittedly, not all my trade ideas are great, which is why I seldom make trade proposals.

[todd_days_41]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

If Houston would do this deal, you jump all over it. But a) I don’t think the math works, and b) doubtful HOU would trade us more than a MIL or BKN pick (which is fine, by the way). The Cs need assets of any kind.

I mean…. Wouldn’t you take Wood and Wall for Horford, Juancho, Richardson and change? I would.

[nickagneta]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

If Houston would do this deal, you jump all over it. But a) I don’t think the math works, and b) doubtful HOU would trade us more than a MIL or BKN pick (which is fine, by the way). The Cs need assets of any kind.

I mean…. Wouldn’t you take Wood and Wall for Horford, Juancho, Richardson and change? I would.

I think the math works because you move Wood into the trade exception and Horford, Juancho and Richardson are within the parameters to trade for Wall.

Wall's contract is a major albatross and I think they might just be willing to move off Wood and a pick to rid the team of Wall. Look what Boston paid to get out of Kemba's last two years? I think the price is reasonable if you compare it to that Kemba/Horford trade.

[Goldstar88]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

I don’t think that trade makes any sense for Houston. They are trying to acquire young talent and draft picks so that they can rebuild their team. Why would they trade away their best player in Wood, who just turned 26 a few months ago and a first round pick for a salary dump. Wall will more than likely be bought out next season, just like OKC did with Kemba.

[todd_days_41]

If we are trading with Houston, why not this:

Wood, Wall and a 1st rounder

For

Horford, Hernangomez and Schröder and trade exception?

Now hear me out. I know Wall is constantly hurt and has a huge contract but the real assets the C's want out of this trade are Wood and that first rounder.

None of Juancho, Al or Schröder will be on this team next year. Moving them to get Wood and that 1st rounder makes all the sense in the world. And if Wall can be even a little like the Wall in Washington, he makes a tremendous bench piece for a season and a half.

Smart/Wall/Pritchard
Brown/Richardson/Nesmith
Tatum/Romeo
Wood/Grant/Parker
Timelord/Freedom/Fernando

Of course, you can flex players into other positions like Wood as a center in a smaller lineups. Or Richardson or Nesmith playing SF. Even Pritchard could play the 2 alongside Smart or Wall.

And, you get that 1st round pick. But most importantly you get Wood, a young player on The Jays timeline, who can be that excellent rebounding, highly efficient scoring, stretch 4 you can put alongside The Jays that put Tatum and Brown into positions where they can dominate others at the 3 and 2 respectively. The length, offensive potential and defensive chops of a Timelord/Wood/Tatum/Brown/Smart lineup would be elite.

And if Wall can turn into a Derrick Rose on the NYK type player, that's just a massive bonus.

If Houston would do this deal, you jump all over it. But a) I don’t think the math works, and b) doubtful HOU would trade us more than a MIL or BKN pick (which is fine, by the way). The Cs need assets of any kind.

I mean…. Wouldn’t you take Wood and Wall for Horford, Juancho, Richardson and change? I would.

I think the math works because you move Wood into the trade exception and Horford, Juancho and Richardson are within the parameters to trade for Wall.

Wall's contract is a major albatross and I think they might just be willing to move off Wood and a pick to rid the team of Wall. Look what Boston paid to get out of Kemba's last two years? I think the price is reasonable if you compare it to that Kemba/Horford trade.

I think getting Wood just to take 1.5 years of Wall is a no brainer if the Cs don’t have to give up core players (Horford is not a core player). But I wonder whether the Rockets would really consider it.

[Moranis]

I'd rather have Richardson

Any particular reason why? I don’t really see anything that Richardson does better than Gordon. Eric would fill a need.

Richardson is a much better defender, better rebounder, and doesn't turn it over anywhere near the rate Gordon does.  He doesn't need the ball as much to be effective.  He is bigger and stronger.  He is much younger.  He has a much better contract. 

[Goldstar88]

I'd rather have Richardson

Any particular reason why? I don’t really see anything that Richardson does better than Gordon. Eric would fill a need.

Richardson is a much better defender, better rebounder, and doesn't turn it over anywhere near the rate Gordon does.  He doesn't need the ball as much to be effective.  He is bigger and stronger.  He is much younger.  He has a much better contract.

Eric Gordon has a higher defensive rating than Josh Richardson. For Rebounds and TO’s there is a difference of 0.6. Gordon is 6’3” 215lbs and Richardson is 6’5” 200lbs