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Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #45 on: December 07, 2021, 09:29:14 PM »

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Pritchard will get his chance once Schroder is either traded this season or signs elsewhere this summer. There's almost no way we can retain Schroder so we will need Pritchard soon enough.

It'll be interesting to see where the Cs are leading up to the trade deadline. If the Cs continue on a trajectory where it seems highly unlikely they can get past the Bucks, Heat and Nets -- I hope Stevens will show courage and cash in on Schroder for an asset before he walks this summer.

You have to believe Schroeder at his price will be one of the top rental trade chips available across the NBA this winter. Get a legit pick or prospect for him while you can, then give PP some run.

But -- a lot can change between now and then. Let's see if this team keeps building in the right direction.
I don't think this team will get past "highly unlikely" to get to the finals.  So that is a virtual lock. 

That said, what are we getting in return for Schroeder?  I agree that BS should consider it but you have to weigh a trade against team morale.

Factor in also a need to advance in the playoffs this season.

What does that do? Moral victory?

Schroeder’s value will depend on the competition for him. The biggest issue is: the teams most desperate for additional ball handling are the ones who have shipped all their upcoming 1sts… Miami, LAC, Nets, Dallas, LAL.

Who can deliver us a real asset?

Does a team like Indiana go for Schroder as part of a package with Horford and assets such as Nesmith and Langford for guys like Sabonis? They aren't a contender, but they could afford to pay him this summer if they want to. Either way, opportunities will come up between now and the trade deadline.

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #46 on: December 07, 2021, 09:34:34 PM »

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Pritchard will get his chance once Schroder is either traded this season or signs elsewhere this summer. There's almost no way we can retain Schroder so we will need Pritchard soon enough.

It'll be interesting to see where the Cs are leading up to the trade deadline. If the Cs continue on a trajectory where it seems highly unlikely they can get past the Bucks, Heat and Nets -- I hope Stevens will show courage and cash in on Schroder for an asset before he walks this summer.

You have to believe Schroeder at his price will be one of the top rental trade chips available across the NBA this winter. Get a legit pick or prospect for him while you can, then give PP some run.

But -- a lot can change between now and then. Let's see if this team keeps building in the right direction.
I don't think this team will get past "highly unlikely" to get to the finals.  So that is a virtual lock. 

That said, what are we getting in return for Schroeder?  I agree that BS should consider it but you have to weigh a trade against team morale.

Factor in also a need to advance in the playoffs this season.

What does that do? Moral victory?

Schroeder’s value will depend on the competition for him. The biggest issue is: the teams most desperate for additional ball handling are the ones who have shipped all their upcoming 1sts… Miami, LAC, Nets, Dallas, LAL.

Who can deliver us a real asset?

Does a team like Indiana go for Schroder as part of a package with Horford and assets such as Nesmith and Langford for guys like Sabonis? They aren't a contender, but they could afford to pay him this summer if they want to. Either way, opportunities will come up between now and the trade deadline.

Yes, and whereas people might say "why not just wait and pay him in free agency". A team might be willing to give up an asset (or see him as a deal sweetener - as you say), in order to get him for 6 months to figure him out/build rapport/get a team friendly deal.. especially that Denis must be once bitten twice shy when it comes to his agent being clever...
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Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #47 on: December 07, 2021, 09:47:28 PM »

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Pritchard will get his chance once Schroder is either traded this season or signs elsewhere this summer. There's almost no way we can retain Schroder so we will need Pritchard soon enough.

It'll be interesting to see where the Cs are leading up to the trade deadline. If the Cs continue on a trajectory where it seems highly unlikely they can get past the Bucks, Heat and Nets -- I hope Stevens will show courage and cash in on Schroder for an asset before he walks this summer.

You have to believe Schroeder at his price will be one of the top rental trade chips available across the NBA this winter. Get a legit pick or prospect for him while you can, then give PP some run.

But -- a lot can change between now and then. Let's see if this team keeps building in the right direction.
I don't think this team will get past "highly unlikely" to get to the finals.  So that is a virtual lock. 

That said, what are we getting in return for Schroeder?  I agree that BS should consider it but you have to weigh a trade against team morale.

Factor in also a need to advance in the playoffs this season.

What does that do? Moral victory?

Schroeder’s value will depend on the competition for him. The biggest issue is: the teams most desperate for additional ball handling are the ones who have shipped all their upcoming 1sts… Miami, LAC, Nets, Dallas, LAL.

Who can deliver us a real asset?

Does a team like Indiana go for Schroder as part of a package with Horford and assets such as Nesmith and Langford for guys like Sabonis? They aren't a contender, but they could afford to pay him this summer if they want to. Either way, opportunities will come up between now and the trade deadline.

Doubtful. They need young guys they can control via RFA.

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2021, 09:33:12 PM »

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 Bump. Prichard is a future Hall of Famer! Just need minutes!!!

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2021, 09:53:35 PM »

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Lol. First game he wasn't absolutely horrible after 30 games but he is a future HOFer. More lol

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2021, 10:51:58 PM »

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I think the HoF was a joke.  Pritchard is not a bad player.  There is just no need for him to play when the team is healthy.  It is too bad there are no minutes for him but that is the way it goes in the NBA sometimes.

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2021, 11:01:06 PM »

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I think the HoF was a joke.  Pritchard is not a bad player.  There is just no need for him to play when the team is healthy.  It is too bad there are no minutes for him but that is the way it goes in the NBA sometimes.



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Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #52 on: December 19, 2021, 09:10:16 AM »

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I lose hair every time Pritchard drives into the paint and picks up the ball when he gets there.

I'm bald now.

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #53 on: December 19, 2021, 12:15:43 PM »

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I lose hair every time Pritchard drives into the paint and picks up the ball when he gets there.

I'm bald now.

I don’t think I have met a bald Australian.

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #54 on: December 19, 2021, 08:13:48 PM »

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Pritchard will get his chance once Schroder is either traded this season or signs elsewhere this summer. There's almost no way we can retain Schroder so we will need Pritchard soon enough.

It'll be interesting to see where the Cs are leading up to the trade deadline. If the Cs continue on a trajectory where it seems highly unlikely they can get past the Bucks, Heat and Nets -- I hope Stevens will show courage and cash in on Schroder for an asset before he walks this summer.

You have to believe Schroeder at his price will be one of the top rental trade chips available across the NBA this winter. Get a legit pick or prospect for him while you can, then give PP some run.

But -- a lot can change between now and then. Let's see if this team keeps building in the right direction.
I don't think this team will get past "highly unlikely" to get to the finals.  So that is a virtual lock. 

That said, what are we getting in return for Schroeder?  I agree that BS should consider it but you have to weigh a trade against team morale.

Factor in also a need to advance in the playoffs this season.

What does that do? Moral victory?


Nope. Never. Hell no. This is the Boston Celtics.

This franchise has always been about winning. Others may have forgotten Red Auerbach...

You build a contender by advancing in the playoffs.

This team has committed itself (and a mind-boggling amount of money) to three players. It will continue to get as far as it can in the playoffs as long as they’re on the team. Management owes it to them.

They need Schroeder’s shot creation this season.
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Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2021, 10:12:35 PM »

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Another nice game from Pritchard. His shooting makes him so much more valuable than Dennis.. (Although Denis is having quite a good year from mid-range)
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Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #56 on: December 20, 2021, 10:38:01 PM »

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Maybe both hoopvortex and trickybilly are right

We need Schroeder, but only for this year, before Romy, Nesmith and Pritchard take his minutes. All 3 look good.

Quite like the idea of keeping Josh Richardson though. Him and Smart on D were menacing against the (I think) Warriors.

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #57 on: December 20, 2021, 11:07:08 PM »

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Maybe both hoopvortex and trickybilly are right

We need Schroeder, but only for this year, before Romy, Nesmith and Pritchard take his minutes. All 3 look good.

Quite like the idea of keeping Josh Richardson though. Him and Smart on D were menacing against the (I think) Warriors.

Josh is locked up for another year. Great trade getting him for Moses Brown and smart extension.
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Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2021, 09:10:49 AM »

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Our depth at guard, which includes Pritchard, gives us some trade flexibility.  I feel that Schroder is being considered for a trade.  We could trade him and Pritchard could fill in and we would not lose all that much.

But I don't necessarily want to trade him just to trade him.  For example, is it really worth it to trade him for a pick in the 20's?  It doesn't seem it to me.

I also think that Josh Richardson could be traded but again, we would need to trade him for something that helps the team at another position, preferably big forward or center.

I don't see any obvious trade for either but I suspect that speculation will be there, especially as these players become eligible for trades (for example, JRich cannot be traded until 7 Jan 2022).

Re: Prichard out of rotation, a mistake
« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2021, 09:59:18 AM »

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Our depth at guard, which includes Pritchard, gives us some trade flexibility.  I feel that Schroder is being considered for a trade.  We could trade him and Pritchard could fill in and we would not lose all that much.

But I don't necessarily want to trade him just to trade him.  For example, is it really worth it to trade him for a pick in the 20's?  It doesn't seem it to me.


Is it worth trading Schroder (who is leaving after this season, one in which we're not winning anything) for, say, Pritchard? Or Timelord? Definitely. But I think we'd be lucky to get a pick in the 20s in the first place.