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Re: Pritchard thoughts...
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2021, 05:00:55 PM »

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.
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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2021, 05:25:03 PM »

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As some have said, Pritchard is simply a limited guy, but it's on defense AND offense.  We already know he's small so defense will never be a huge strength.  But on offense, it isn't what some thing he is.  Sure, he has deep range.  But he ends up shooting those because of his inability to get better shots consistently.  And someone also said, you can be trying to run plays for a guy that is toward the back of the bench.  Those types need to get in where they fit in.

Long term, PP is a career back up at best.  Not the kind of guy that is going to make a huge difference.

He's a career backup I agree but if stars play each other to a stand still bench guys can make a difference.    PJ Tucker and Portis make a huge difference in the playoffs last year.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2021, 05:27:54 PM »

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.

I thought you wrote Steph curry at first read and almost choked! I think and always thought that Pritchard could be a useful role player. I think that mask has limited Payton so far this year. He looked amazing in the preseason games. I don't see him as a regular starter but he's a useful NBA role player.

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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2021, 05:33:42 PM »

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.

I thought you wrote Steph curry at first read and almost choked! I think and always thought that Pritchard could be a useful role player. I think that mask has limited Payton so far this year. He looked amazing in the preseason games. I don't see him as a regular starter but he's a useful NBA role player.
Ha, I would not at all complain if he became a Steph Curry type!

Seth Curry was terrible when he first joined the NBA, and it wasn't until he was 25 years old that he played any significant minutes. He then hit his stride as an undersized (6'2) combo guard with elite shooting and less than stellar defence. I think Pritchard can easily do that if given the time.
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2021, 05:36:02 PM »

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.

I thought you wrote Steph curry at first read and almost choked! I think and always thought that Pritchard could be a useful role player. I think that mask has limited Payton so far this year. He looked amazing in the preseason games. I don't see him as a regular starter but he's a useful NBA role player.
Ha, I would not at all complain if he became a Steph Curry type!

Seth Curry was terrible when he first joined the NBA, and it wasn't until he was 25 years old that he played any significant minutes. He then hit his stride as an undersized (6'2) combo guard with elite shooting and less than stellar defence. I think Pritchard can easily do that if given the time.

I agree that is a good comp for Pritchard.

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2021, 06:47:27 PM »

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His thoughts are private I would think

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2021, 07:20:51 PM »

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Pritchard appears to be the 10th-11th man in the rotation. How many 10th-11th men in the rotation get more than 2-3 shots a game? I am guessing not very many or close to none. You simply don't create specific offensive plays designed for the 10th or 11th men in the rotation. As that 10th-11th guy, Pritchard is getting 3 shots a game. Here's the problem...27.3% FG%...31.3% 3PT%.

Last year he played a different role, often the 7th-8th man in the rotation. So he got more shots. His role has been diminished and I honestly think that's a good thing because Romeo and Dennis are simply much better players, even if not better shooters.

If Pritchard was 6'3", long, quick and played better much defense, I would be up in arms. But he isn't. If he starts hitting his shots at over 40%, maybe he gets more minutes and more shots, but until he does he is going to play that 10th-11th man role that Semi played last year and get the number of shots Semi did 2-4 FGA/game.

Not sure I understand this take. He did prove he could be an elite rotation 3 pt shooter last year at .440/.412 and he was a tolerable defender. It looked to me like he came back ready from his performance this summer. You have to either play a guy like that or move him. He has value, but you will waste it if you don't let him shoot enough.

His ability to create separation has been limited. He looked more comfortable early last year, but when he started drilling shots from deep, the defensive pressure increased, and he didn't meet that.

Guys with less athleticism can learn to create space, but it isn't very common. I think he can get there, mainly because he has a super tight handle, a beautiful shot, works very hard at it, and has a nice feel for the game, which are the building blocks needed. He will have to hit harder shots, but he probably can.

If we want an 11th man, you keep someone like Javonte Green, because athleticism is more reliable in limited minutes. Pritchard survives with razor sharp skills, and that's tough to do like this.

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.

I thought you wrote Steph curry at first read and almost choked! I think and always thought that Pritchard could be a useful role player. I think that mask has limited Payton so far this year. He looked amazing in the preseason games. I don't see him as a regular starter but he's a useful NBA role player.
Ha, I would not at all complain if he became a Steph Curry type!

Seth Curry was terrible when he first joined the NBA, and it wasn't until he was 25 years old that he played any significant minutes. He then hit his stride as an undersized (6'2) combo guard with elite shooting and less than stellar defence. I think Pritchard can easily do that if given the time.
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2021, 10:01:38 PM »

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Ceiling was always gonna be limited with PP, unless he improves his already high skill level yet again, somehow.

The modern NBA needs versitile wings. Was only able to watch bits of the game, but seeing Nesmith and Romy do well, that is important.

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2021, 10:05:30 PM »

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Pritchard appears to be the 10th-11th man in the rotation. How many 10th-11th men in the rotation get more than 2-3 shots a game? I am guessing not very many or close to none. You simply don't create specific offensive plays designed for the 10th or 11th men in the rotation. As that 10th-11th guy, Pritchard is getting 3 shots a game. Here's the problem...27.3% FG%...31.3% 3PT%.

Last year he played a different role, often the 7th-8th man in the rotation. So he got more shots. His role has been diminished and I honestly think that's a good thing because Romeo and Dennis are simply much better players, even if not better shooters.

If Pritchard was 6'3", long, quick and played better much defense, I would be up in arms. But he isn't. If he starts hitting his shots at over 40%, maybe he gets more minutes and more shots, but until he does he is going to play that 10th-11th man role that Semi played last year and get the number of shots Semi did 2-4 FGA/game.

Not sure I understand this take. He did prove he could be an elite rotation 3 pt shooter last year at .440/.412 and he was a tolerable defender. It looked to me like he came back ready from his performance this summer. You have to either play a guy like that or move him. He has value, but you will waste it if you don't let him shoot enough.

His ability to create separation has been limited. He looked more comfortable early last year, but when he started drilling shots from deep, the defensive pressure increased, and he didn't meet that.

Guys with less athleticism can learn to create space, but it isn't very common. I think he can get there, mainly because he has a super tight handle, a beautiful shot, works very hard at it, and has a nice feel for the game, which are the building blocks needed. He will have to hit harder shots, but he probably can.

If we want an 11th man, you keep someone like Javonte Green, because athleticism is more reliable in limited minutes. Pritchard survives with razor sharp skills, and that's tough to do like this.
Not sure what's so hard to understand. Last year, Pritchard had the backup PG role through most of the season. That was a role with about 20 MPG and 6-7 shots a game.

Kemba left. Smart was moved to PG. Brown moved back to SG. Richardson was brought in as the backup 2. Schroder brought in as the backup PG. And Pritchard was moved down to the role of 5th guard/10th-11th man in the rotation.

That means less minutes. Less shots. And he needs to produce without long minutes to get a rhythm. He has to be hot from second one in the game.

And, he hasn't been doing that. His overall play is bad. His shooting awful.

Stevens brought in players at the guard position that both he and Udoka think are better than Payton. So far, they're right. Pritchard will either have to wait until someone gets hurt to get more minutes or outplay Smart, Schroder, Brown or Richardson to get his role back.

It's actually very easy to understand.

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2021, 10:11:31 PM »

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Shroder I think is taking his minutes away - which isn't exactly suprising. He's a lot better player.

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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2021, 10:18:50 PM »

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Shroder I think is taking his minutes away - which isn't exactly suprising. He's a lot better player.

Schorder is much better but Pritchard stayed ready and busted a 3 when he got in!

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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2021, 10:19:28 PM »

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Pritchard appears to be the 10th-11th man in the rotation. How many 10th-11th men in the rotation get more than 2-3 shots a game? I am guessing not very many or close to none. You simply don't create specific offensive plays designed for the 10th or 11th men in the rotation. As that 10th-11th guy, Pritchard is getting 3 shots a game. Here's the problem...27.3% FG%...31.3% 3PT%.

Last year he played a different role, often the 7th-8th man in the rotation. So he got more shots. His role has been diminished and I honestly think that's a good thing because Romeo and Dennis are simply much better players, even if not better shooters.

If Pritchard was 6'3", long, quick and played better much defense, I would be up in arms. But he isn't. If he starts hitting his shots at over 40%, maybe he gets more minutes and more shots, but until he does he is going to play that 10th-11th man role that Semi played last year and get the number of shots Semi did 2-4 FGA/game.

Not sure I understand this take. He did prove he could be an elite rotation 3 pt shooter last year at .440/.412 and he was a tolerable defender. It looked to me like he came back ready from his performance this summer. You have to either play a guy like that or move him. He has value, but you will waste it if you don't let him shoot enough.

His ability to create separation has been limited. He looked more comfortable early last year, but when he started drilling shots from deep, the defensive pressure increased, and he didn't meet that.

Guys with less athleticism can learn to create space, but it isn't very common. I think he can get there, mainly because he has a super tight handle, a beautiful shot, works very hard at it, and has a nice feel for the game, which are the building blocks needed. He will have to hit harder shots, but he probably can.

If we want an 11th man, you keep someone like Javonte Green, because athleticism is more reliable in limited minutes. Pritchard survives with razor sharp skills, and that's tough to do like this.
Not sure what's so hard to understand. Last year, Pritchard had the backup PG role through most of the season. That was a role with about 20 MPG and 6-7 shots a game.

Kemba left. Smart was moved to PG. Brown moved back to SG. Richardson was brought in as the backup 2. Schroder brought in as the backup PG. And Pritchard was moved down to the role of 5th guard/10th-11th man in the rotation.

That means less minutes. Less shots. And he needs to produce without long minutes to get a rhythm. He has to be hot from second one in the game.

And, he hasn't been doing that. His overall play is bad. His shooting awful.

Stevens brought in players at the guard position that both he and Udoka think are better than Payton. So far, they're right. Pritchard will either have to wait until someone gets hurt to get more minutes or outplay Smart, Schroder, Brown or Richardson to get his role back.

It's actually very easy to understand.

Kind of like Carson Edwards before. Except FastPP is actually skilled.

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2021, 10:23:42 PM »

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.

I haven’t seen Seth Curry play D. Is he targeted the way Pritchard is? PP really has a target on his back.

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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2021, 10:27:00 PM »

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I am much higher on Pritchard than most. I think he'll become a Seth Curry type player one day. Problem is, with the way we're using him, he will likely want to leave to a better coach.

I haven’t seen Seth Curry play D. Is he targeted the way Pritchard is? PP really has a target on his back.

No one else has seen Seth Curry play defense either!