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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2021, 05:38:18 AM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.
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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2021, 07:26:46 AM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.

It’s a worthy gamble I think. I mean, picks set you up for good players who you hope can bring you a championship. 1 banner is hard. 2 is amazing. 3 is practically a dynasty now.

I think Boston should be looking to cash in picks too. KAT for picks to team up with Brown and Tatum wouldn’t be the worst thing
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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2021, 10:07:40 AM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.

It’s a worthy gamble I think. I mean, picks set you up for good players who you hope can bring you a championship. 1 banner is hard. 2 is amazing. 3 is practically a dynasty now.

I think Boston should be looking to cash in picks too. KAT for picks to team up with Brown and Tatum wouldn’t be the worst thing
Except it will almost certainly take Brown + picks to land Towns. 
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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2021, 02:20:18 PM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.

It’s a worthy gamble I think. I mean, picks set you up for good players who you hope can bring you a championship. 1 banner is hard. 2 is amazing. 3 is practically a dynasty now.

I think Boston should be looking to cash in picks too. KAT for picks to team up with Brown and Tatum wouldn’t be the worst thing
Except it will almost certainly take Brown + picks to land Towns.

Ehhh, possibly. But we’ve seen guys get traded for significantly less than what many on here have claimed to be the minimum asking price.

KAT’s a 2-time allstar entering his 7th year. He’s a legitimately good player. But for comparison, Brown is a year younger and might be matching him in allstar games this year (assuming KAT doesn’t make it and Brown does, which is a likely scenario). So yes, KAT is good but let’s not treat him like he’s some perennial All-NBA or MVP-level player. He’s an allstar candidate, not a lock.

 
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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2021, 03:29:42 PM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.

It’s a worthy gamble I think. I mean, picks set you up for good players who you hope can bring you a championship. 1 banner is hard. 2 is amazing. 3 is practically a dynasty now.

I think Boston should be looking to cash in picks too. KAT for picks to team up with Brown and Tatum wouldn’t be the worst thing
Except it will almost certainly take Brown + picks to land Towns.

Ehhh, possibly. But we’ve seen guys get traded for significantly less than what many on here have claimed to be the minimum asking price.

KAT’s a 2-time allstar entering his 7th year. He’s a legitimately good player. But for comparison, Brown is a year younger and might be matching him in allstar games this year (assuming KAT doesn’t make it and Brown does, which is a likely scenario). So yes, KAT is good but let’s not treat him like he’s some perennial All-NBA or MVP-level player. He’s an allstar candidate, not a lock.
He was injured the last two years or he'd have 4 all star appearances.  Now if you want to argue that the injuries are a concern, you wouldn't get an argument from me (even though Brown isn't exactly a picture of health, injuries to big men often have more effect and are more often a sign of future injuries).  He'd also likely have more than the 1 All NBA Team as well if he'd been healthier the last two seasons.  Brown is obviously a significantly better defensive player, but Towns overall offense for a man his size is basically unprecedented in league history.  I think if Towns wasn't in Minnesota he'd be thought of so much differently, but that franchise is just a disaster.  Feel bad for Towns in that regard.
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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2021, 06:44:44 PM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.

It’s a worthy gamble I think. I mean, picks set you up for good players who you hope can bring you a championship. 1 banner is hard. 2 is amazing. 3 is practically a dynasty now.

I think Boston should be looking to cash in picks too. KAT for picks to team up with Brown and Tatum wouldn’t be the worst thing
Except it will almost certainly take Brown + picks to land Towns.

Ehhh, possibly. But we’ve seen guys get traded for significantly less than what many on here have claimed to be the minimum asking price.

KAT’s a 2-time allstar entering his 7th year. He’s a legitimately good player. But for comparison, Brown is a year younger and might be matching him in allstar games this year (assuming KAT doesn’t make it and Brown does, which is a likely scenario). So yes, KAT is good but let’s not treat him like he’s some perennial All-NBA or MVP-level player. He’s an allstar candidate, not a lock.
I think you're being a bit dishonest with the accolade talk. It's ridiculous that Towns didn't make the All-Star team in his 2nd season over DeAndre Jordan, and if he's healthy he at least has one more A-S appearance over the last two seasons. He's a 24/12/4 big man who shoots over 57% from 2, 40% from 3 and 84% from the stripe, while playing middle of the road defence.
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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2021, 09:53:34 PM »

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The overarching issue here is that, eventually, Brad is going to have to trade picks to get more elite help for the Jay's - it's just a matter of when now.

Brooklyn do not have their own first round pick again until 2028. Yes, you read that right.

It’s a worthy gamble I think. I mean, picks set you up for good players who you hope can bring you a championship. 1 banner is hard. 2 is amazing. 3 is practically a dynasty now.

I think Boston should be looking to cash in picks too. KAT for picks to team up with Brown and Tatum wouldn’t be the worst thing
Except it will almost certainly take Brown + picks to land Towns.

Ehhh, possibly. But we’ve seen guys get traded for significantly less than what many on here have claimed to be the minimum asking price.

KAT’s a 2-time allstar entering his 7th year. He’s a legitimately good player. But for comparison, Brown is a year younger and might be matching him in allstar games this year (assuming KAT doesn’t make it and Brown does, which is a likely scenario). So yes, KAT is good but let’s not treat him like he’s some perennial All-NBA or MVP-level player. He’s an allstar candidate, not a lock.
I think you're being a bit dishonest with the accolade talk. It's ridiculous that Towns didn't make the All-Star team in his 2nd season over DeAndre Jordan, and if he's healthy he at least has one more A-S appearance over the last two seasons. He's a 24/12/4 big man who shoots over 57% from 2, 40% from 3 and 84% from the stripe, while playing middle of the road defence.

And we could argue that Tatum shouldve been All-NBA last year and that Brown should’ve been an allstar the year prior. At the end of the day, accolades are what they are. Who was KAT beating out last year in the West? Gobert with the best record? Jokic who was playing on an MVP-level?

Again, I think KAT is a really good player but in trades in the NBA, you don’t often get an established allstar when trading out your allstar who wants out. Brown has arrived at this point and isn’t some prospect with allstar potential anymore.

Imo the closest thing we have as a “centerpiece” to a KAT deal is Timelord. If he can stay healthy this year (big if) and continues this trajectory of being this defensive game-changer, he ticks the “high potential prospect” box. Add in some salaries (likely involving other teams), 3 future 1sts and a pick swap somewhere in between, then it starts to look like a package we’ve typically seen of teams who end up rebuilding: prospect, picks, and cap relief - essentially the ingredients to build a team around Anthony Edwards.








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Re: Minnesota at the trade deadline
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2021, 08:13:38 AM »

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I did find all of the Cs extensions this offseason a little bit strange. Don't get me wrong, they make sense individually, but it's almost like they wanted to have the flexibility to make such a trade, rather than only being able to offer secondary players with expiring contracts. Like, honestly, why add an extra year on to JRich's contract?

Obviously, it would be great to land KAT. TL is the real wildcard here - if he breaks out, he immediately becomes one of the best contracts in the league. Maybe we wouldn't even want to trade him at that point.