Minnesota at the trade deadline

[trickybilly]

Curious to see how Minny play this year. These comments from KAT are WILD.

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[Vermont Green]

Unfortunately, I don't think they will be very good.  Probably another lottery season.  D'Angelo Russell is a bit of a wild card.  He looked good towards the end of the season and could be a nice "2" in a Towns - Russell 1 -2 punch.  But he needs to say on the court.  Towns and Russell are two good players to build around though.  It is a solid foundation.

The rest of the core team, Beasley at SG, Edwards at SF, and McDaniels at PF has some promise but I don't see them putting it all together this season.  I would resist the temptation to blow this up though.  They have some good pieces.  The entire likely starting line up is under 25.

[Moranis]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

[Vermont Green]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

[Moranis]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

I just think if Minnesota is again failing, then they need to move on.  They'd get Brown, RW, and a couple of 1st's, plus future salary relief in Horford and a look at Langford.  If it took Nesmith, I'd do that as well. 

[slamtheking]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

I just think if Minnesota is again failing, then they need to move on.  They'd get Brown, RW, and a couple of 1st's, plus future salary relief in Horford and a look at Langford.  If it took Nesmith, I'd do that as well.

I wouldn't give that much up to get KAT nor would I want Russell.  I don't see either of them as 'winning' players. 

I could see the thought process in Minny for moving KAT, sort of, if they continue to lose but I think Edwards may give them the push in the right direction.  KAT and Russell just don't impress me as players that hate losing enough to take the steps needed to become winners but maybe if Edwards develops into a stud player he can get them to move in that direction a bit.

[Who]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

I just think if Minnesota is again failing, then they need to move on.  They'd get Brown, RW, and a couple of 1st's, plus future salary relief in Horford and a look at Langford.  If it took Nesmith, I'd do that as well.

I wouldn't give that much up to get KAT nor would I want Russell.  I don't see either of them as 'winning' players. 

I could see the thought process in Minny for moving KAT, sort of, if they continue to lose but I think Edwards may give them the push in the right direction.  KAT and Russell just don't impress me as players that hate losing enough to take the steps needed to become winners but maybe if Edwards develops into a stud player he can get them to move in that direction a bit.

I was reading a soccer blog a long time ago that was making a list of All-Time greats and talking about players who are the engines of their team's success and those who decorate teams. So the engine is the centerpiece who makes everything hum. The player who is decorative is someone who does beautiful things and is an important part of the success but not the engine. Not the piece that everything else revolves around.

I like this term for Towns. He is a decorative player rather than a centerpiece. I like him as a 2nd/3rd option. Someone who can add major quality to a team and be a key to winning in a reduced role rather than a true franchise player who can carry a team.

I also like this for someone like Pau Gasol. I see Towns as someone who can be a key to a team's success in the same way that Pau was to the Lakers titles next to Kobe Bryant.

So I view Towns as a winning player but as a supporting star rather than a franchise player.

[A Future of Stevens]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

I just think if Minnesota is again failing, then they need to move on.  They'd get Brown, RW, and a couple of 1st's, plus future salary relief in Horford and a look at Langford.  If it took Nesmith, I'd do that as well.

As echoed by some above, I don't want to move Brown, but Towns is someone I would consider. He is genuinely in the running for most versatile offensive big of all time. My issue is defense. I would worry about getting stops with that rotation.

It may be worth it though. Having Tatum/KAT pick and pops would be devastating. 

[ETNCeltics]

Unless Brown just wants out, I'd rather have him than KAT. IMO, Brown has not reached his ceiling, and plays the most important position in basketball.

[slamtheking]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

I just think if Minnesota is again failing, then they need to move on.  They'd get Brown, RW, and a couple of 1st's, plus future salary relief in Horford and a look at Langford.  If it took Nesmith, I'd do that as well.

I wouldn't give that much up to get KAT nor would I want Russell.  I don't see either of them as 'winning' players. 

I could see the thought process in Minny for moving KAT, sort of, if they continue to lose but I think Edwards may give them the push in the right direction.  KAT and Russell just don't impress me as players that hate losing enough to take the steps needed to become winners but maybe if Edwards develops into a stud player he can get them to move in that direction a bit.

I was reading a soccer blog a long time ago that was making a list of All-Time greats and talking about players who are the engines of their team's success and those who decorate teams. So the engine is the centerpiece who makes everything hum. The player who is decorative is someone who does beautiful things and is an important part of the success but not the engine. Not the piece that everything else revolves around.

I like this term for Towns. He is a decorative player rather than a centerpiece. I like him as a 2nd/3rd option. Someone who can add major quality to a team and be a key to winning in a reduced role rather than a true franchise player who can carry a team.

I also like this for someone like Pau Gasol. I see Towns as someone who can be a key to a team's success in the same way that Pau was to the Lakers titles next to Kobe Bryant.

So I view Towns as a winning player but as a supporting star rather than a franchise player.

tbh, I thought Gasol was the MVP of those Laker teams 2008-2010, not Kobe.  I saw both players as the type that hated losing. 

[Moranis]

If they are struggling again at the deadline they should absolutely look to move Towns and Russell at the deadline.  I do think it'd take at least Brown to get Towns.  I'd probably do that, but it would be a potential chemistry issue, but the thought of Towns and Tatum together for the next decade does sound nice.

Towns and Russell are friends so maybe you do a big package type deal.

Towns, Russell, Layman for Brown, Horford, R. Williams, Langford, 22 1st, 24 lotto 1st

Something like that makes sense, so post-trade

PG - Russell, Schroder, Pritchard
SG - Smart
SF - Richardson, Nesmith, Layman
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Hernangomez
C - Towns, Kanter, Fernando

I like how that team would shape up (richardson would play a lot at SG and tatum would play at SF to balance the actual rotation) and still have Smart and Richardson to use as salary in trades over the summer (or Russell for someone like Beal i.e. Russell, Nesmith, 26 1st for Beal or something like that)

I doubt that Brown could get us Towns, but close, I really doubt Brown and filler could get us Towns and Russell.  Towns is a player, (one of the few) where in my view it would make sense to consider trading Brown.  Having a wing and a big as your top two is better than having two wings, in general (Jordan and Pippen not withstanding).

I just think if Minnesota is again failing, then they need to move on.  They'd get Brown, RW, and a couple of 1st's, plus future salary relief in Horford and a look at Langford.  If it took Nesmith, I'd do that as well.

I wouldn't give that much up to get KAT nor would I want Russell.  I don't see either of them as 'winning' players. 

I could see the thought process in Minny for moving KAT, sort of, if they continue to lose but I think Edwards may give them the push in the right direction.  KAT and Russell just don't impress me as players that hate losing enough to take the steps needed to become winners but maybe if Edwards develops into a stud player he can get them to move in that direction a bit.

I was reading a soccer blog a long time ago that was making a list of All-Time greats and talking about players who are the engines of their team's success and those who decorate teams. So the engine is the centerpiece who makes everything hum. The player who is decorative is someone who does beautiful things and is an important part of the success but not the engine. Not the piece that everything else revolves around.

I like this term for Towns. He is a decorative player rather than a centerpiece. I like him as a 2nd/3rd option. Someone who can add major quality to a team and be a key to winning in a reduced role rather than a true franchise player who can carry a team.

I also like this for someone like Pau Gasol. I see Towns as someone who can be a key to a team's success in the same way that Pau was to the Lakers titles next to Kobe Bryant.

So I view Towns as a winning player but as a supporting star rather than a franchise player.

tbh, I thought Gasol was the MVP of those Laker teams 2008-2010, not Kobe.  I saw both players as the type that hated losing.

You could argue Gasol was better than Kobe (especially for that 2nd one), but Kobe was absolutely the unquestioned leader of that team. 

For the record, I don't think Brown is an engine either.  Lots of great players are best suited as #2's.  It is well documented on here, that is how I feel about Garnett as well.

[Ed Monix]

It’s rather hilarious thought, but the perfect scenario in theory would be moving Karl-Anthony Towns to the Miami Heat for Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro and multiple picks.

Towns can be close to his family in the Dominican Republican, he’d improve the Heat’s offense which was their achilles heel last season, plus he’d open up the lane for Jimmy Butler and Victor Oladipo.

Timberwolves can start fresh with a (All-Star) defensive centrepiece in Adebayo, and Herro can get a larger role next to Edwards.

[celts10]

It’s rather hilarious thought, but the perfect scenario in theory would be moving Karl-Anthony Towns to the Miami Heat for Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro and multiple picks.

Towns can be close to his family in the Dominican Republican, he’d improve the Heat’s offense which was their achilles heel last season, plus he’d open up the lane for Jimmy Butler and Victor Oladipo.

Timberwolves can start fresh with a (All-Star) defensive centrepiece in Adebayo, and Herro can get a larger role next to Edwards.

I think that is a good deal for both sides. But, didn't KAT and Butler clash in Minny?

[Ed Monix]

It’s rather hilarious thought, but the perfect scenario in theory would be moving Karl-Anthony Towns to the Miami Heat for Bam Adebayo, Tyler Herro and multiple picks.

Towns can be close to his family in the Dominican Republican, he’d improve the Heat’s offense which was their achilles heel last season, plus he’d open up the lane for Jimmy Butler and Victor Oladipo.

Timberwolves can start fresh with a (All-Star) defensive centrepiece in Adebayo, and Herro can get a larger role next to Edwards.

I think that is a good deal for both sides. But, didn't KAT and Butler clash in Minny?

Yes, that’s what makes it hilarious.

It’s the perfect scenario but they hate each other, both seem to hold grudges, so I very much doubt things will change between them.

[LilRip]

I’d take Towns if we can keep Tatum and Brown. I’ll take Tatum-Brown-Towns in 2022/3 over KD-Harden-Kyrie in 2022/3.

Would this be possible:
Assuming we’re not in the NBA finals, can we trade Horford to match salaries during the playoffs (aka still the current season), then Minny cuts Big Al, then we sign him for the minimum during the official offseason? Lol