Brad outpacing Ainge as GM. Just wish he didn't trade Moses

[Tr1boy]

Outside of Ainge brilliance the year he traded for Allen, KG and then robbing the Nets

Brad already looks like a more capable GM... especially compared to Ainge last two seasons

Still dislike the Brown trade. Thats the only thing I wish he hadnt done...  could have found a different avenue to obtain JRich

Team could be in trouble if either/both Horford and Timelord see prolong time in IR

[Ed Monix]

[Roy H.]

Let's be real:  Brad has been active, but he hasn't done anything particularly monumental.  Nothing he has done would be in Danny's top-10 moves.  In no particular order:

The KG trade
The Ray trade
The Brooklyn trade
Drafting Tatum
Drafting Brown
Drafting Big Al
Drafting Perk
The Kyrie trade (even if it didn't work out)
The Hayward signing
The Horford signing
Trading Jeff Green for a #1
Drafting Rondo
Trading Jiri Welsch for a #1
Signing James Posey
Signing Eddie House, Sam Cassell and PJ Browns as free agents
Drafting Avery Bradley
Drafting Marcus Smart
Traded for IT
Drafted Rozier
Traded the #1 pick for Tatum and a future #1

That's 20, and that's skipping a lot of positive moves.

Realistically, what has Brad done that you're particularly impressed by?  We acquired Josh Richardson using a trade exception.  What's the Danny Ainge equivalent?  Trading for Jae Crowder, maybe?  We signed Enes Kanter.  We traded for a below-average PF.

I like Brad's trades for the most part, but they've all been pretty incremental.  Our one move of consequence was a salary dump, although I do like that we brought Horford back.  It's not a lot different than Danny giving up a #1 to turn Raef into Radcliff.  Danny was able to turn that move into a key building block in the KG trade.  Will Brad be able to do something as monumental?

[LilRip]

Let's be real:  Brad has been active, but he hasn't done anything particularly monumental.  Nothing he has done would be in Danny's top-10 moves.  In no particular order:

The KG trade
The Ray trade
The Brooklyn trade
Drafting Tatum
Drafting Brown
Drafting Big Al
Drafting Perk
The Kyrie trade (even if it didn't work out)
The Hayward signing
The Horford signing
Trading Jeff Green for a #1
Drafting Rondo
Trading Jiri Welsch for a #1
Signing James Posey
Signing Eddie House, Sam Cassell and PJ Browns as free agents
Drafting Avery Bradley
Drafting Marcus Smart
Traded for IT
Drafted Rozier
Traded the #1 pick for Tatum and a future #1


Realistically, what has Brad done that you're particularly impressed by?  We acquired Josh Richardson using a trade exception.  What's the Danny Ainge equivalent?  Trading for Jae Crowder, maybe?

You forgot another thing Ainge did: hiring CBS

[Celtics2021]

Let's be real:  Brad has been active, but he hasn't done anything particularly monumental.  Nothing he has done would be in Danny's top-10 moves.  In no particular order:

The KG trade
The Ray trade
The Brooklyn trade
Drafting Tatum
Drafting Brown
Drafting Big Al
Drafting Perk
The Kyrie trade (even if it didn't work out)
The Hayward signing
The Horford signing
Trading Jeff Green for a #1
Drafting Rondo
Trading Jiri Welsch for a #1
Signing James Posey
Signing Eddie House, Sam Cassell and PJ Browns as free agents
Drafting Avery Bradley
Drafting Marcus Smart
Traded for IT
Drafted Rozier
Traded the #1 pick for Tatum and a future #1

That's 20, and that's skipping a lot of positive moves.

Realistically, what has Brad done that you're particularly impressed by?  We acquired Josh Richardson using a trade exception.  What's the Danny Ainge equivalent?  Trading for Jae Crowder, maybe?  We signed Enes Kanter.  We traded for a below-average PF.

I like Brad's trades for the most part, but they've all been pretty incremental.  Our one move of consequence was a salary dump, although I do like that we brought Horford back.  It's not a lot different than Danny giving up a #1 to turn Raef into Radcliff.  Danny was able to turn that move into a key building block in the KG trade.  Will Brad be able to do something as monumental?

I don’t think Ainge would have extended TimeLord or Smart, which I think we’re both solid moves.  Also good with the Richardson extension, but I particularly like the first two.

Stevens has handed out as many extensions this month as Ainge did in about his final decade.

[Csfan1984]

Roy said it all.

BS ain't even close. We have to see how things actually work out. Was it a bad move to not retain flexibility to sign a near max player? Was it a bad coach hire? Was the locker room make up bad? Does Kemba have a great year and Horford a bad one? Do the guys at pick 16 or 17 become stars?

There are a ton of what ifs right now. No easy homeruns that I see.

[Roy H.]

Let's be real:  Brad has been active, but he hasn't done anything particularly monumental.  Nothing he has done would be in Danny's top-10 moves.  In no particular order:

The KG trade
The Ray trade
The Brooklyn trade
Drafting Tatum
Drafting Brown
Drafting Big Al
Drafting Perk
The Kyrie trade (even if it didn't work out)
The Hayward signing
The Horford signing
Trading Jeff Green for a #1
Drafting Rondo
Trading Jiri Welsch for a #1
Signing James Posey
Signing Eddie House, Sam Cassell and PJ Browns as free agents
Drafting Avery Bradley
Drafting Marcus Smart
Traded for IT
Drafted Rozier
Traded the #1 pick for Tatum and a future #1

That's 20, and that's skipping a lot of positive moves.

Realistically, what has Brad done that you're particularly impressed by?  We acquired Josh Richardson using a trade exception.  What's the Danny Ainge equivalent?  Trading for Jae Crowder, maybe?  We signed Enes Kanter.  We traded for a below-average PF.

I like Brad's trades for the most part, but they've all been pretty incremental.  Our one move of consequence was a salary dump, although I do like that we brought Horford back.  It's not a lot different than Danny giving up a #1 to turn Raef into Radcliff.  Danny was able to turn that move into a key building block in the KG trade.  Will Brad be able to do something as monumental?

I don’t think Ainge would have extended TimeLord or Smart, which I think we’re both solid moves.  Also good with the Richardson extension, but I particularly like the first two.

Stevens has handed out as many extensions this month as Ainge did in about his final decade.

It's impossible to say what Danny would have done.  Which players did we have that were extension eligible that would have agreed to reasonable extensions?  Danny signed Perk to an extension.  While not an extension, he signed Marcus to a very reasonable deal.  Did Jeff Green get an extension, or was it after he hit free agency?  Obviously Tatum and Brown.  KG.  Pierce. 

[PAOBoston]

Danny: tore down the Cs, rebuilt, won a championship, tore down again, rebuilt, drafted two cornerstone guys, on the cusp on contending again.

Brad: traded for Richardson and Hernangomez

This thread is ridiculous lol.

[Ed Monix]

Ainge has become a victim of his own genius.

The sports media created the 'oh yeah?' effect with Ainge, by calling him 'one of the all-time greatest NBA minds' and comparing him to Auerbach & West, they were putting him on a pedestal that is impossible to say upon. Fans of other teams and Ainge contrarians have been all waiting for him to slip up so they can pounce and denounce everything he's achieved.

I think the consensus on this forum is his standards began to slip in 2019, but most forget he had his second heart attack that year. Factor this along with his age and burnout, all lead to the end for Ainge.

Do you know an easy way to tell how much of a genius Ainge was at his job? Go back and look at people's reactions on CelticsBlog/CelticsStrong as soon as he made a move. Most of us were pulling out our hair thinking he was crazy/idiotic, because we could not comprehend what he was doing.

Even though Ainge only has one championship to his name as General Manager, from 2008-2017 the Celtics had a (469-319) win/loss record, second only to the San Antonio Spurs.

[Tr1boy]

Danny: tore down the Cs, rebuilt, won a championship, tore down again, rebuilt, drafted two cornerstone guys, on the cusp on contending again.

Brad: traded for Richardson and Hernangomez

This thread is ridiculous lol.

Umm Schroder signing robbery mean much to you?

Even if that was the Horford connection.... it all ties in

Would Ainge made that Kemba for Horford trade? Something tells me no

If you re read my initial post... especially compare Ainge moves in the last 2 seasons vs what Brad did this offseason alone. 

[Tr1boy]

Ainge has become a victim of his own genius.

The sports media created the 'oh yeah?' effect with Ainge, by calling him 'one of the all-time greatest NBA minds' and comparing him to Auerbach & West, they were putting him on a pedestal that is impossible to say upon. Fans of other teams and Ainge contrarians have been all waiting for him to slip up so they can pounce and denounce everything he's achieved.

I think the consensus on this forum is his standards began to slip in 2019, but most forget he had his second heart attack that year. Factor this along with his age and burnout, all lead to the end for Ainge.

Do you know an easy way to tell how much of a genius Ainge was at his job? Go back and look at people's reactions on CelticsBlog/CelticsStrong as soon as he made a move. Most of us were pulling out our hair thinking he was crazy/idiotic, because we could not comprehend what he was doing.

Even though Ainge only has one championship to his name as General Manager, from 2008-2017 the Celtics had a (469-319) win/loss record, second only to the San Antonio Spurs.

Trader Danny association certaintly didnt help.  In addition to some offseason drama (on 98.5)

Danny time to move on/retire was the correct move

[KG Living Legend]

 No homeruns for Brad, but he's hitting singles all day long and just like that we have a roster that I will guarantee is better than last years.

[Tr1boy]

No homeruns for Brad, but he's hitting singles all day long and just like that we have a roster that I will guarantee is better than last years.

[Tr1boy]

No homeruns for Brad, but he's hitting singles all day long and just like that we have a roster that I will guarantee is better than last years.

I loved the Ainge robberies. Who didnt

But these days he didnt even even hit singles

Brad is not afraid to make moves. Even if its not a robbery

And that to me is a breath of fresh air

[Tr1boy]

Let's be real:  Brad has been active, but he hasn't done anything particularly monumental.  Nothing he has done would be in Danny's top-10 moves.  In no particular order:

The KG trade
The Ray trade
The Brooklyn trade
Drafting Tatum
Drafting Brown
Drafting Big Al
Drafting Perk
The Kyrie trade (even if it didn't work out)
The Hayward signing
The Horford signing
Trading Jeff Green for a #1
Drafting Rondo
Trading Jiri Welsch for a #1
Signing James Posey
Signing Eddie House, Sam Cassell and PJ Browns as free agents
Drafting Avery Bradley
Drafting Marcus Smart
Traded for IT
Drafted Rozier
Traded the #1 pick for Tatum and a future #1

That's 20, and that's skipping a lot of positive moves.

Realistically, what has Brad done that you're particularly impressed by?  We acquired Josh Richardson using a trade exception.  What's the Danny Ainge equivalent?  Trading for Jae Crowder, maybe?  We signed Enes Kanter.  We traded for a below-average PF.

I like Brad's trades for the most part, but they've all been pretty incremental.  Our one move of consequence was a salary dump, although I do like that we brought Horford back.  It's not a lot different than Danny giving up a #1 to turn Raef into Radcliff.  Danny was able to turn that move into a key building block in the KG trade.  Will Brad be able to do something as monumental?

Good to great moves. But there were some bad blunders.  Like Kyrie trade which affected the team negatively and gave the city a black eye (image).  Perkins trade.  Not keeping Tony Allen.  Not drafting Giannis.

Overall grade. Danny was good at building (initial phase).  But in the last two seasons the jury is out... in regards to picking a lane, adding better vets and not hoarding I dont even know how many picks