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Re: Payton playing himself out of the league…
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2021, 07:30:36 PM »

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Should have added that PP did a great job advancing the ball up the court too.

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« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2021, 08:23:26 PM »

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I wonder if Pritchard can be a JJ Redick level scoring / shooting threat at PG in the future. That would be an awesome add to this team's offense.

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« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2021, 08:26:56 PM »

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ESPN's Pelton on the best SL players:
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In the three games he played before leaving for what Celtics summer league coach Joe Mazzulla termed "a prior engagement," Pritchard was the best player in the NBA summer league by my assessment.

Although not quite as dominant as some of the other second-year point guards in Las Vegas (Maxey and New York's Immanuel Quickley), Pritchard stood out with his efficiency. He made a remarkable 15 of his 26 3-point attempts (58%) while handing out 26 assists with just four turnovers -- the top assist-to-turnover ratio for players with more than 75 minutes of action.

Absent Pritchard, Boston has rolled along undefeated with another candidate for this list in fellow 2020 first-round pick Aaron Nesmith, who has averaged 18.8 PPG while shooting 52% from the field and 39% on 3s.

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« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2021, 09:53:55 PM »

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Re: Payton playing himself out of the league…
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2021, 08:17:06 AM »

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ESPN's Pelton on the best SL players:
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In the three games he played before leaving for what Celtics summer league coach Joe Mazzulla termed "a prior engagement," Pritchard was the best player in the NBA summer league by my assessment.

Although not quite as dominant as some of the other second-year point guards in Las Vegas (Maxey and New York's Immanuel Quickley), Pritchard stood out with his efficiency. He made a remarkable 15 of his 26 3-point attempts (58%) while handing out 26 assists with just four turnovers -- the top assist-to-turnover ratio for players with more than 75 minutes of action.

Absent Pritchard, Boston has rolled along undefeated with another candidate for this list in fellow 2020 first-round pick Aaron Nesmith, who has averaged 18.8 PPG while shooting 52% from the field and 39% on 3s.
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« Reply #35 on: August 17, 2021, 08:24:41 AM »

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I’d settle for Seth Curry.

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« Reply #36 on: August 17, 2021, 06:26:24 PM »

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Payton Pritchard...might be the next Steph Curry  8)

I’d settle for Seth Curry.
Seth Curry wasn't as good as rookie PP until he was 25. Think he's got that level covered
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« Reply #37 on: August 17, 2021, 06:45:52 PM »

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Re: Payton playing himself out of the league…
« Reply #38 on: August 17, 2021, 06:52:31 PM »

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I’d settle for Seth Curry.
Seth Curry wasn't as good as rookie PP until he was 25. Think he's got that level covered

Just because NBA scouts missed on him doesn’t mean he couldn’t have performed similarly to Pritchard as a 23 year-old rookie.  Also, Seth has shot at least 45% from 3 in four of his 5 NBA seasons, with 42.5% in his worst season.  Pritchard hasn’t hit that level yet.

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« Reply #39 on: August 17, 2021, 06:53:49 PM »

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That's an interesting one. Barea is tiny (5'10 and 180lbs) and had seasons of really solid playmaking. I actually think he could turn out like Jason Terry did in Dallas, but I'm high on PP
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« Reply #40 on: August 17, 2021, 09:35:50 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: August 18, 2021, 11:19:29 AM »

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Payton Pritchard...might be the next Steph Curry  8)

I’d settle for Seth Curry.
Seth Curry wasn't as good as rookie PP until he was 25. Think he's got that level covered
but 25 was basically Seth's rookie year as he only played 2 games when he was 23 and 2 games when he was 24 (he had 21 total minutes before landing in Sacramento in his age 25 season).  And Pritchard will be 24 during the season, he is old as 2nd year players go. 

Older players often (not always obviously i.e. Seth Curry) come in more prepared and perform well, but they also often don't grow like normal rookies do and usually end up with a pretty low ceiling.  That is why I don't expect Pritchard to be much more than a backup level player because he would have to go against historical trends to do that.  Seth Curry is probably a pretty good comparison of where Pritchard will end up.  A guy that could start in the right situation, but is probably best suited as an instant offense type player off the bench.
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Re: Payton playing himself out of the league…
« Reply #42 on: August 18, 2021, 05:58:09 PM »

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Payton Pritchard...might be the next Steph Curry  8)

I’d settle for Seth Curry.
Seth Curry wasn't as good as rookie PP until he was 25. Think he's got that level covered
but 25 was basically Seth's rookie year as he only played 2 games when he was 23 and 2 games when he was 24 (he had 21 total minutes before landing in Sacramento in his age 25 season).  And Pritchard will be 24 during the season, he is old as 2nd year players go. 

Older players often (not always obviously i.e. Seth Curry) come in more prepared and perform well, but they also often don't grow like normal rookies do and usually end up with a pretty low ceiling.  That is why I don't expect Pritchard to be much more than a backup level player because he would have to go against historical trends to do that.  Seth Curry is probably a pretty good comparison of where Pritchard will end up.  A guy that could start in the right situation, but is probably best suited as an instant offense type player off the bench.
It's like you're intentionally missing the point. Seth Curry only played that few games because he was simply not good enough. That's the difference. Having totally different starting levels of skill has an impact upon progression.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Payton playing himself out of the league…
« Reply #43 on: August 18, 2021, 10:55:28 PM »

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Payton Pritchard...might be the next Steph Curry  8)

I’d settle for Seth Curry.
Seth Curry wasn't as good as rookie PP until he was 25. Think he's got that level covered
but 25 was basically Seth's rookie year as he only played 2 games when he was 23 and 2 games when he was 24 (he had 21 total minutes before landing in Sacramento in his age 25 season).  And Pritchard will be 24 during the season, he is old as 2nd year players go. 

Older players often (not always obviously i.e. Seth Curry) come in more prepared and perform well, but they also often don't grow like normal rookies do and usually end up with a pretty low ceiling.  That is why I don't expect Pritchard to be much more than a backup level player because he would have to go against historical trends to do that.  Seth Curry is probably a pretty good comparison of where Pritchard will end up.  A guy that could start in the right situation, but is probably best suited as an instant offense type player off the bench.
It's like you're intentionally missing the point. Seth Curry only played that few games because he was simply not good enough. That's the difference. Having totally different starting levels of skill has an impact upon progression.
Sure, but he didn't say Seth Curry the rookie, he said Seth Curry.  You know the guy that has never shot below 42.5% from 3 (and has been 45% or better the last 3 seasons) and started for a team that won a playoff series last year. 

And Seth Curry is the pretty rare player that enters the league after 4 years of college and actually got significantly better.  That isn't typical.  Most older rookies enter the league much closer to their peak.  That obviously makes sense, but is also borne out time and time and again.  There are exceptions (like Seth Curry) so maybe Pritchard is an exception, or maybe he is like most 22 year old rookies that is fairly close to a finished product, in which case Seth Curry would be a pretty good comparison (i.e. a SG in a PG's body that hits 3's at an incredibly high level).
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Re: Payton playing himself out of the league…
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2021, 01:10:56 AM »

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