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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2021, 10:44:42 PM »

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There wasn’t a better player available at that price.  He will allow the Celtics to play multiple styles.

I hope he’s not an ass in the locker room.  4 teams in 4 seasons and none of three previous 3 seem to regret losing him.

I’ve heard that he is from some connections of mine, that he was disliked by his teammates at one of his previous stops, but I still really like the signing.

He should either be able to start at PG or put pressure on Marcus to be a distributor and take care of the ball because we actually have an alternative if he doesn’t. 
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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2021, 10:49:33 PM »

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There wasn’t a better player available at that price.  He will allow the Celtics to play multiple styles.

I hope he’s not an ass in the locker room.  4 teams in 4 seasons and none of three previous 3 seem to regret losing him.
I think that's a harsh assessment. Atlanta found a franchise talent at his position, OKC committed to a horrendous tank job, and many of the recent rejects of the Lakers have gone on to thrive elsewhere.
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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2021, 11:07:29 PM »

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There wasn’t a better player available at that price.  He will allow the Celtics to play multiple styles.

I hope he’s not an ass in the locker room.  4 teams in 4 seasons and none of three previous 3 seem to regret losing him.
I think that's a harsh assessment. Atlanta found a franchise talent at his position, OKC committed to a horrendous tank job, and many of the recent rejects of the Lakers have gone on to thrive elsewhere.

It’s a bit of a harsh assessment, but teams also weren’t falling over to sign him this summer, which means there’s probably a little truth to his perceived reputation.  The Wizards gave up two 2nd rounders to sign Spencer Dinwiddie to a 3-year $60 million deal, despite coming off a torn knee, and Dinwiddie isn’t remarkably better than Schröder.

It’s a potentially high reward signing, and if it bombs it won’t cost too much to fix, but there’s probably a reason he couldn't find a deal.  Hopefully he realizes it and works hard at fixing it.

Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2021, 11:15:39 PM »

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There wasn’t a better player available at that price.  He will allow the Celtics to play multiple styles.

I hope he’s not an ass in the locker room.  4 teams in 4 seasons and none of three previous 3 seem to regret losing him.
I think that's a harsh assessment. Atlanta found a franchise talent at his position, OKC committed to a horrendous tank job, and many of the recent rejects of the Lakers have gone on to thrive elsewhere.

It’s a bit of a harsh assessment, but teams also weren’t falling over to sign him this summer, which means there’s probably a little truth to his perceived reputation.  The Wizards gave up two 2nd rounders to sign Spencer Dinwiddie to a 3-year $60 million deal, despite coming off a torn knee, and Dinwiddie isn’t remarkably better than Schröder.

It’s a potentially high reward signing, and if it bombs it won’t cost too much to fix, but there’s probably a reason he couldn't find a deal.  Hopefully he realizes it and works hard at fixing it.

I think it was like a case of musical chairs where when the music stopped Schroder didn't have a chair.

Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2021, 11:15:53 PM »

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There wasn’t a better player available at that price.  He will allow the Celtics to play multiple styles.

I hope he’s not an ass in the locker room.  4 teams in 4 seasons and none of three previous 3 seem to regret losing him.

This is also his 4th team in his 8 year career and from what I read he was actually good in the locker room.  He presses on offense and sometimes other players don't like that, but that's what this team needs.

I don't see how he wasn't received in LA if they offered him an 84m contract

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2021, 01:05:53 AM »

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I love it!! Welcome Dennis!

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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2021, 03:04:35 AM »

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Good signing for the Celtics at this price - not much downside. The Lakers gave up Danny Green and a 1st for that ass. The Lakers were willing to overpay him, yet still he wanted more. Demanded to start. Refused to get vaccinated, which prevented full-team meetings and meals. Lost to Covid protocols near season end. Played poorly in the playoffs. Horrible trade.

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2021, 03:12:00 AM »

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Good signing for the Celtics at this price - not much downside. The Lakers gave up Danny Green and a 1st for that ass. The Lakers were willing to overpay him, yet still he wanted more. Demanded to start. Refused to get vaccinated, which prevented full-team meetings and meals. Lost to Covid protocols near season end. Played poorly in the playoffs. Horrible trade.
Will fit right in then!
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2021, 05:27:44 AM »

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There wasn’t a better player available at that price.  He will allow the Celtics to play multiple styles.

I hope he’s not an ass in the locker room.  4 teams in 4 seasons and none of three previous 3 seem to regret losing him.

This is also his 4th team in his 8 year career and from what I read he was actually good in the locker room.  He presses on offense and sometimes other players don't like that, but that's what this team needs.

I don't see how he wasn't received in LA if they offered him an 84m contract

This probably needs restating. Also, not that he's going to be starving, but winding up with a contract that's worth ~7% of the one you turned down has got to sting. Hopefully we get him playing like it's a contract year :)
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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2021, 09:49:34 AM »

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Schroder at $6M is a great signing.  No doubt.  Gives us a surplus at guard now though so it seems like someone will have to go.

Trade Smart:  Schroder, Pritchard, Dunn is a fine PG rotation.  No longer a need to play Smart at PG.  For SG/Wing, we have Brown, Richardson, Nesmith, and Langford, plenty of depth.  I still like Smart but he is now very expendable from a roster standpoint.

Trade Richardson:  Same logic as above but instead of trading Smart, you trade Richardson.  Richardson is probably better suited for the SG/Wing role than Smart who leans more PG/Combo.

Smart for Markkanen.  Good trade if it wasn't for the hard cap plus CHI has plenty of guards, just spent big on Ball, so I don't see the fit for Smart.  Hard time seeing this happen but intriguing.

Richardson for Bagley.  No hard cap.  More questions with Bagley.  Richardson is probably more suited to the resulting role on the Celtics (SG/Wing) than Smart, keeping Richardson and getting Markkanen is probably best from a roster balance standpoint.  Keeping Smart, getting Bagley does address our PF dearth. 

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« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2021, 09:59:38 AM »

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No brainer at that price.


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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2021, 10:10:38 AM »

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Great player IMO, even if he came just for one season...but who knows. In the roster we were missing more a shooting guard.

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« Reply #27 on: August 11, 2021, 10:16:07 AM »

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Can't argue with the price. The risk is pretty low overall even if he doesn't work out. I love these low-risk high upside signings.
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« Reply #28 on: August 11, 2021, 10:24:35 AM »

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Schroder at $6M is a great signing.  No doubt.  Gives us a surplus at guard now though so it seems like someone will have to go.

Trade Smart:  Schroder, Pritchard, Dunn is a fine PG rotation.  No longer a need to play Smart at PG.  For SG/Wing, we have Brown, Richardson, Nesmith, and Langford, plenty of depth.  I still like Smart but he is now very expendable from a roster standpoint.

Trade Richardson:  Same logic as above but instead of trading Smart, you trade Richardson.  Richardson is probably better suited for the SG/Wing role than Smart who leans more PG/Combo.

Smart for Markkanen.  Good trade if it wasn't for the hard cap plus CHI has plenty of guards, just spent big on Ball, so I don't see the fit for Smart.  Hard time seeing this happen but intriguing.

Richardson for Bagley.  No hard cap.  More questions with Bagley.  Richardson is probably more suited to the resulting role on the Celtics (SG/Wing) than Smart, keeping Richardson and getting Markkanen is probably best from a roster balance standpoint.  Keeping Smart, getting Bagley does address our PF dearth.

I strongly doubt Dunn will be here come the start of the season. We have to drop to 15 rostered players. I think our depth chart will look like this:

Ball Handlers: Smart, Schroder, Pritchard
Wings: Brown, Tatum, Richardson, Nesmith, Langford, Edwards
Bigs: Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Gwill, Parker, Fernando

Gwill is kind of a floater, I'm not really sure if he's a wing or a big. Richardson can probably handle the ball if needed but he's not going to do that fulltime.

Just my opinion, and it will probably be unpopular for those of us (including myself) who grew up watching the original Celtics Big Three of Bird, McHale and Parish in the frontcourt, but the whole power forward vs small forward argument I think is probably anachronistic in this era...you play to your strengths and to take advantage of the opposition's weaknesses. I feel like most coaches want a switchable lineup who can defend multiple positions, rebound, handle the ball (some better than others) and stretch the court. If you have a Tim Duncan style power forward with a solid traditional center, you play a two-big lineup. Or if you don't, you play your power forward as your main big. Unfortunately we don't. The only two bigs we might want to play together would be Horford and Timelord (for certain matchups) or Gwill with any of the other bigs. Otherwise I think it's ball handlers, wings and bigs and Schroder adds nicely to our depth.
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« Reply #29 on: August 11, 2021, 10:40:19 AM »

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Schroder at $6M is a great signing.  No doubt.  Gives us a surplus at guard now though so it seems like someone will have to go.

Trade Smart:  Schroder, Pritchard, Dunn is a fine PG rotation.  No longer a need to play Smart at PG.  For SG/Wing, we have Brown, Richardson, Nesmith, and Langford, plenty of depth.  I still like Smart but he is now very expendable from a roster standpoint.

Trade Richardson:  Same logic as above but instead of trading Smart, you trade Richardson.  Richardson is probably better suited for the SG/Wing role than Smart who leans more PG/Combo.

Smart for Markkanen.  Good trade if it wasn't for the hard cap plus CHI has plenty of guards, just spent big on Ball, so I don't see the fit for Smart.  Hard time seeing this happen but intriguing.

Richardson for Bagley.  No hard cap.  More questions with Bagley.  Richardson is probably more suited to the resulting role on the Celtics (SG/Wing) than Smart, keeping Richardson and getting Markkanen is probably best from a roster balance standpoint.  Keeping Smart, getting Bagley does address our PF dearth.

I strongly doubt Dunn will be here come the start of the season. We have to drop to 15 rostered players. I think our depth chart will look like this:

Ball Handlers: Smart, Schroder, Pritchard
Wings: Brown, Tatum, Richardson, Nesmith, Langford, Edwards
Bigs: Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Gwill, Parker, Fernando

Gwill is kind of a floater, I'm not really sure if he's a wing or a big. Richardson can probably handle the ball if needed but he's not going to do that fulltime.

Just my opinion, and it will probably be unpopular for those of us (including myself) who grew up watching the original Celtics Big Three of Bird, McHale and Parish in the frontcourt, but the whole power forward vs small forward argument I think is probably anachronistic in this era...you play to your strengths and to take advantage of the opposition's weaknesses. I feel like most coaches want a switchable lineup who can defend multiple positions, rebound, handle the ball (some better than others) and stretch the court. If you have a Tim Duncan style power forward with a solid traditional center, you play a two-big lineup. Or if you don't, you play your power forward as your main big. Unfortunately we don't. The only two bigs we might want to play together would be Horford and Timelord (for certain matchups) or Gwill with any of the other bigs. Otherwise I think it's ball handlers, wings and bigs and Schroder adds nicely to our depth.
Totally agree
Additionally, in modern era having Smart (and even Schroeder now) that can switch on screens easily is an added value in playoffs. My impression is that offensively we don't have the overall amount of talent required to fight for something.