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Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2021, 02:17:48 AM »

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Does adding Josh Richardson Kris Dunn signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?

Ftfy :P

Not sure about the answer to that question, but imo Smart and Dunn seem like an overkill.

Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2021, 03:03:59 AM »

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A lot of people seem to think Smart is gone.  Why is that?

Edit: Do we not like Smart anymore, for some reason?
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Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
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A lot of people seem to think Smart is gone.  Why is that?

Edit: Do we not like Smart anymore, for some reason?

Let's just say it's a love-hate relationship  :angel:

I personally love Smartacus, warts and all...I hope he retires a Celtic. He just needs to know his role and what he's good at.
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Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2021, 06:32:56 AM »

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Does adding Josh Richardson Kris Dunn signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?

From what we've see Kris Dunn has done in the NBA, thus far,  he about zero change of signaling the end of Marcus Smart.

Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2021, 09:31:28 AM »

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I’m baffled by the idea that adding a decent wing and a mediocre-to-bad backup guard would signal anything about Marcus Smart’s future here.

Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2021, 09:37:55 AM »

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It may indicate the end of Evan Fournier in Boston, but I don't think it has anything to do with Smart
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Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2021, 09:53:12 AM »

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Seems far more likely that Fournier won't be back as I don't think they want to pay the luxury tax for a team that is still below the top tier teams in the league. 

Current Roster is taking shape

PG - Smart, Dunn, Pritchard, Edwards
SG - Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Fernando
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

That is 15 players and is just below the tax. 

I don't like Tatum as having to play PF or Smart being the main PG, but with the current roster that is what we are left with.  Now if the team can turn Smart, Edwards, G. Williams into a legit starting PG I think that would help balance the roster out some.  Maybe it is Ball or maybe it is someone that doesn't require a sign and trade hamstringing the roster. 

Maybe something like this

Rubio, Nance

for

Smart, Edwards, G. Williams, Langford, Parker

So do that trade and here is the roster with 3 open spots

PG - Rubio, Dunn, Pritchard
SG - Brown, Richardson
SF - Tatum, Nesmith
PF - Nance, Fernando
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

Team seems a bit more balanced and then Tatum isn't out of position all game every game (still will play PF, but Nance starts taking some burden off him) and there is still a lot of flexibility with the 3 open roster spots (and Fournier could still be brought back if the tax wasn't an issue).
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Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2021, 09:57:50 AM »

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I don't know how the money works, but the signing of Richardson for much less money, negates the need for Fournier. (4 years 85 Million) Both playing SG, SF...Richardson is nearly as effective.

And the trade for Dunn, a defensive mined PG replaces some of the minutes of the much more expensive Marcus Smart, saving around 11 million.

It allows the Celtics to go all in on Ball.

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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2021, 10:09:40 AM »

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A lot of people seem to think Smart is gone.  Why is that?

Edit: Do we not like Smart anymore, for some reason?

All we’ve heard from Brad and Ime is how important he is. Stevens has called him the heart of the team and Udoka stated that he’s a “foundational piece”. I’m hoping that he embraces being the full time PG, now that Kemba’s gone. He can be a very good passer.
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Re: Does adding Josh Richardson signal the end of Marcus Smart in Boston?
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2021, 10:18:29 AM »

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One of the main reasons the Celtics finished .500 last year is because of heart. Marcus has the most heart on the team. I think his absence would be felt, and we would need to replace him with another top 10 hustler in the league.

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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2021, 10:28:43 AM »

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It may indicate the end of Evan Fournier in Boston, but I don't think it has anything to do with Smart

I agree with this.  We get Richardson on a 1 year, smaller contract instead of signing Fournier to a multiyear larger contract.  Now we can try and get something for Fournier via S&T but probably a TPE since adding salary would put is over the tax.

There is likely some additional moves in the works that may involve Smart but I don't see that connecting to Richardson.  Smart is expiring so seems to fit the plan.

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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2021, 10:50:56 AM »

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To answer your original post question: No.

It likely means Fournier is gone.

It’s likely we are heading in the direction of a 3 max structure and the question becomes how do we get there?

Is it sign Beal in offseason resulting in Beal-Brown-Tatum?

Is it trade Brown for Lillard (or Karl Anthony Towns) resulting in Beal-Tatum-KAT or Lillard-Beal-Tatum?

Either way I love the flexibility and team building that is going on early on in PBS tenure in the front office.

If Richardson could get back to this level of defense, we will be a feisty team with Smart-Richardson-Williams III on this team.

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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2021, 11:58:17 AM »

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PG - Smart, Dunn, Pritchard, Edwards
SG - Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Fernando
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

I for finding a new home for Grant and Edwards.   

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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2021, 12:50:19 PM »

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PG - Smart, Dunn, Pritchard, Edwards
SG - Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Fernando
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

I for finding a new home for Grant and Edwards.   

Grant and Edwards should not be in the NBA.  A lot of the Celtic's team last year were just glorified G-leaguers.

I think the addition of Kriss Dunn and Josh Richardson likely signal an end of the Marcus Smart era in Boston - which is fine.  He hasbeen one of the most over-rated and over-valued Celtic's players in my lifetime.  He reminds me a bit of Antoine Walker.

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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2021, 12:52:39 PM »

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PG - Smart, Dunn, Pritchard, Edwards
SG - Richardson, Langford
SF - Brown, Nesmith
PF - Tatum, Parker, G. Williams, Fernando
C - Horford, R. Williams, Brown

I for finding a new home for Grant and Edwards.   

Grant and Edwards should not be in the NBA.  A lot of the Celtic's team last year were just glorified G-leaguers.

I think the addition of Kriss Dunn and Josh Richardson likely signal an end of the Marcus Smart era in Boston - which is fine.  He hasbeen one of the most over-rated and over-valued Celtic's players in my lifetime.  He reminds me a bit of Antoine Walker.

They both like to shoot 3's, and both were well-received by fans. I think that is where the comparisons end, as Smart and Walker are almost exactly the opposite. Walker was a great offensive talent that could have played better D. Smart is a very solid defender that could use a better offensive game.