We either let Tatum drive the bus…

[CBS_Take a Report]

…or continue the treadmill for years. If there is an option to trade Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal straight up, I am fully supportive of it.

Tatum clearly wants to play with his best friend in Bradley Beal. Here is my logic in why a straight up trade of Brown for Beal makes sense:

1. Jaylen Brown is on a cost controlled near max deal right now. He will surely fetch a super max on his next free agency. Are you willing to allocate super max to Jaylen Brown? I believe his value is he is an all star player on a cost controlled contract. It is always with this asterisk next to it.

2. If Tatum is THE guy then don’t we allow him to dictate and sell the team to candidates to join him in his mission? If he wants Beal why fight this? Especially when it dramatically improves the Celtics (you can argue all you want it doesn’t… it does).

3. My assessment of Jaylen Brown is that he is a very mechanical player on the court often times looking like he is in slow motion. He is just not fluid. He overcomes this with his extreme athleticism. Which is the positive side of this but he makes us lose time in our offensive sets with his slow pace mechanical approach.

4. Once this domino were to fall, we can assume a 3rd star will follow. I don’t think Jaylen carries the same cache to fetch the 3rd star.

[Roy H.]

1.  Jaylen isn't eligible for a supermax;

2.  There wouldn't be "dramatic" improvement;

3.  For being slow and mechanical (and yet athletic) he is extremely productive;

4.  Why would we assume this?

[Rondo9]

…or continue the treadmill for years. If there is an option to trade Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal straight up, I am fully supportive of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67IQ1Jr-4RM

[Vermont Green]

…or continue the treadmill for years. If there is an option to trade Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal straight up, I am fully supportive of it.

Tatum clearly wants to play with his best friend in Bradley Beal. Here is my logic in why a straight up trade of Brown for Beal makes sense:

1. Jaylen Brown is on a cost controlled near max deal right now. He will surely fetch a super max on his next free agency. Are you willing to allocate super max to Jaylen Brown? I believe his value is he is an all star player on a cost controlled contract. It is always with this asterisk next to it.

2. If Tatum is THE guy then don’t we allow him to dictate and sell the team to candidates to join him in his mission? If he wants Beal why fight this? Especially when it dramatically improves the Celtics (you can argue all you want it doesn’t… it does).

3. My assessment of Jaylen Brown is that he is a very mechanical player on the court often times looking like he is in slow motion. He is just not fluid. He overcomes this with his extreme athleticism. Which is the positive side of this but he makes us lose time in our offensive sets with his slow pace mechanical approach.

4. Once this domino were to fall, we can assume a 3rd star will follow. I don’t think Jaylen carries the same cache to fetch the 3rd star.

Wow, that is a whole lot of conjecture there.  I don't dispute that Tatum would love to have Beal join the team, there are probably a lot of star players he would like to see on the team but there is no basis for the conclusion that he is trying to dictate trading Jaylen Brown.  And also saying that Brown has less Cache to attract a star then Beal probably depends largely on the star, but even if true in many cases, there is no way you can simply assume that getting Beal for Brown means done deal, third star will follow.

[CBS_Take a Report]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Williams III

Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

[Ogaju]

I agree with the OP. Trying to keep JB is just courting trouble.

[Ogaju]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Horford

Williams III, Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

Cs are not trading Horford.

[CBS_Take a Report]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Horford

Williams III, Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

Cs are not trading Horford.

How can you be sure? His contract is quite honestly our most tradeable asset for a team seeking a reset (ahem Washington). And furthermore, both Horford and Brown have the same agent. So perhaps they go as a package…

[Irish Stew]

Is there enough contract money to make this trade without Horford? Without looking it up, it doesn't seem like there would be.

[Roy H.]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Williams III

Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

That’s a pretty significant step backward.

[CBS_Take a Report]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Williams III

Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

That’s a pretty significant step backward.

Roy, nothing but respect but your post makes an argument with little proof. Expand?

Westbrook is an upgrade over Smart.

Beal is an upgrade over Brown.

The rest are contract matching pieces where we have redundancies and Bertrans assuming he can return to his shooting form gives us an outside shooting threat at the PF position, a position we sorely lack.

There’s my arguments

[gouki88]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Williams III

Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

That’s a pretty significant step backward.

Roy, nothing but respect but your post makes an argument with little proof. Expand?

Westbrook is an upgrade over Smart.

Beal is an upgrade over Brown.

The rest are contract matching pieces where we have redundancies and Bertrans assuming he can return to his shooting form gives us an outside shooting threat at the PF position, a position we sorely lack.

There’s my arguments

If you only count one end of the court. Pritchard-Westbrook-Beal would be absolutely abused by opposition teams. How on earth does that team cover Brooklyn or Milwaukee? Do we have Tatum trying to cover their best perimeter player?

Also, Westbrook does not contribute to winning. It is that simple.

[CBS_Take a Report]

Expand trade with Washington to include:

Beal/Westbrook/Bertrans

For

Horford/Brown/Smart/Thompson

New Team:

Pritchard
Westbrook
Beal
Tatum
Williams III

Bertrans, M. Brown, Nesmith, Langford

That’s a pretty significant step backward.

Roy, nothing but respect but your post makes an argument with little proof. Expand?

Westbrook is an upgrade over Smart.

Beal is an upgrade over Brown.

The rest are contract matching pieces where we have redundancies and Bertrans assuming he can return to his shooting form gives us an outside shooting threat at the PF position, a position we sorely lack.

There’s my arguments

If you only count one end of the court. Pritchard-Westbrook-Beal would be absolutely abused by opposition teams. How on earth does that team cover Brooklyn or Milwaukee? Do we have Tatum trying to cover their best perimeter player?

Also, Westbrook does not contribute to winning. It is that simple.

This is an offensive league… plain and simple.

[Rosco917]

Do we really want a 22 year old in the drivers seat of a billion dollar NBA franchise? Honestly, I don't give a Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.e if Tatum wants to play with his childhood bunkie or not. Please, let's not turn a talented man/child into a spoiled monster by allowing him to think he's smarter than he is.

Besides... getting Beal guarantees nothing, the C's will still have shortcomings, we're not talking a 30 year old LeBron here. And when Beal is beginning his down turn in a few seasons, Jaylen Brown will be entering his prime years matching the ark of Tatum himself.

Let's not forget both Kyrie and Hayward had the opportunity to continue to play with Jayson and both took a pass. Make all the excuses you want to, but perhaps they actually knew something that all the armchair GM's missed.         

[blink]

yawn, another thread with someone making up stuff about Brown that is purely their own speculation and trying to trade him away

Beal is worth it if we can pair him with Tatum and Brown.  Trading Brown for Beal, not worth it.

Tatum is 22 years old.  He shouldn't be dictating anything to the C's, he should be working his tail off to get better, which I believe he is, and let the front office worry about putting together a good team around him and Jaylen.