Dame Lillard to demand trade shortly per Henry Abbott of True Hoop

[RJ87]

Dame's interview with Chris Haynes is interesting.

I never felt like my job was to go in and critique what other people were doing in the organization. My job was to make sure the team is functioning and trying to lead them to the best results. I’ve always assumed everybody’s mentality was the same.

So I feel like at this point, I basically made the decision that if you do what you’ve always done, you’ll always be where you've always been.

When I was younger, I felt like maybe I'll be out of place, but I feel like I've earned the right to say we must do better. We must do better if we want to win on that level.

https://sports.yahoo.com/damian-lillard-on-trail-blazers-situation-we-must-do-better-if-we-want-to-win-on-that-level-160144638.html

[Rondo9]

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1416137073686454275

[Ogaju]

It would prly cost brown right? I can't see flipping Horford and 99 first rounders lol

A 3 way with Dallas might be fun

Dallas gets mccullom, tristan and a 2nd round pick

Portland gets Jaylen brown, Porzingis, Robert Williams, 2 first round picks from Boston

Boston gets dame and kleber.

Line up of dame,smart,Tatum,kleber, horford

lol…why you hate the Celtics?

[Ogaju]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

lol…pick a side,

[Ogaju]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

I disagree on this take.  The whole point of the supermax deal that Dame signed was to allow teams that had developed a franchise player to not lose him in free agency for nothing, and be taken by surprise when that occurred.  Dame could have walked as a free agent a year ago, but he didn't, probably because Portland could offer him this special deal that no one else could.  Portland will get a chance to restart their franchise with a bevy of picks from a team like the Knicks that otherwise might have signed Dame in free agency.  I'm not going to call it a win-win, but the Blazers won't be left high and dry, and that was part of the bargain teams took on when they created the supermax.

At some point, it's going to make it impossible for a team to build anything. And it all generally goes against small market teams. If a small market team gets a star like Lillard or Freak and then they force their way out, what's the point in being a fan of that team? They can't add a 2nd star nearly as easily as one of the big franchises.

If your team isn't competitive because you're nothing but a farm system for bigger franchises, it's eventually going to cripple the fan base for those teams. The NBA will inevitably have to deal with this issue. Letting a handful of stars control personnel is going to cause a lot of franchises to crash and burn, and revenue will crash along with it.

Yup….the players don’t seem to care…they are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

[CFAN38]

Evan Massey @massey_evan

Can confirm that the #Knicks are high on Damian Lillard's wishlist if he gets traded. Per source to
@HoopAnalysisNet, the Miami #Heat are another team he is intrigued by.

So it hasn't nothing to do with winning if he wants the Knicks.

My guess is Dame goes to either Knicks, Heat or 76ers. If he goes to the Knicks he will be the first chip in an offseason master plan. Maybe Leonard leaves the clippers for the Knicks? I think a Dame for Simmons based deal is still the most likely major move of the summer.

The Warriors have the best assets to go out and grab Lillard. It's probably the best place for Lillard to win next year. Klay, Curry, Lillard would be absolute death on the offensive end.

The Knicks definitely have the better assets.  Plenty of picks, some nice prospects, and no outgoing salary.

But as someone else said, 76ers have to be the best partner.  They have to want Lillard, and Portland could be a great place for Simmons.

One question that has to be asked is what direction the Blazers will want to go if they move Dame. Do they want to stay relevant and trade for a player like Simmons to pair with CJ or do they blow it up and go OKC style rebuild? In a blow up situation they should be able to net some really solid assets for Dame, CJ, Covington, and Nurkic. I also assume they resign Powell to trade down the road.

[Ogaju]

Dame to Philly….will deserve a counter move by the Celtics.

[gouki88]

Dame to Philly….will deserve a counter move by the Celtics.

I dunno what counter-move there could realistically be. Embiid and Lillard with a bunch of shooters and defenders around them is near-unstoppable.

However, they'd have $106,920,240 tied up in their big three in 2021-22. That's a crazy amount of money

[CFAN38]

Dame to Philly….will deserve a counter move by the Celtics.

I dunno what counter-move there could realistically be. Embiid and Lillard with a bunch of shooters and defenders around them is near-unstoppable.

However, they'd have $106,920,240 tied up in their big three in 2021-22. That's a crazy amount of money

76ers will have to strip their assets bare to get Dame, short term they will be tough but they will not have a large championship window.

[CFAN38]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

I disagree on this take.  The whole point of the supermax deal that Dame signed was to allow teams that had developed a franchise player to not lose him in free agency for nothing, and be taken by surprise when that occurred.  Dame could have walked as a free agent a year ago, but he didn't, probably because Portland could offer him this special deal that no one else could.  Portland will get a chance to restart their franchise with a bevy of picks from a team like the Knicks that otherwise might have signed Dame in free agency.  I'm not going to call it a win-win, but the Blazers won't be left high and dry, and that was part of the bargain teams took on when they created the supermax.

At some point, it's going to make it impossible for a team to build anything. And it all generally goes against small market teams. If a small market team gets a star like Lillard or Freak and then they force their way out, what's the point in being a fan of that team? They can't add a 2nd star nearly as easily as one of the big franchises.

If your team isn't competitive because you're nothing but a farm system for bigger franchises, it's eventually going to cripple the fan base for those teams. The NBA will inevitably have to deal with this issue. Letting a handful of stars control personnel is going to cause a lot of franchises to crash and burn, and revenue will crash along with it.

Yup….the players don’t seem to care…they are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

I have mentioned it for a couple of years on different threads, the league really needs to incentivize staying with a franchise both for the team and the player.

[gouki88]

Dame to Philly….will deserve a counter move by the Celtics.

I dunno what counter-move there could realistically be. Embiid and Lillard with a bunch of shooters and defenders around them is near-unstoppable.

However, they'd have $106,920,240 tied up in their big three in 2021-22. That's a crazy amount of money

76ers will have to strip their assets bare to get Dame, short term they will be tough but they will not have a large championship window.

I agree, it's basically a 2 year window. Because if they don't win in that time I doubt Embiid signs an extension

[Ogaju]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

I disagree on this take.  The whole point of the supermax deal that Dame signed was to allow teams that had developed a franchise player to not lose him in free agency for nothing, and be taken by surprise when that occurred.  Dame could have walked as a free agent a year ago, but he didn't, probably because Portland could offer him this special deal that no one else could.  Portland will get a chance to restart their franchise with a bevy of picks from a team like the Knicks that otherwise might have signed Dame in free agency.  I'm not going to call it a win-win, but the Blazers won't be left high and dry, and that was part of the bargain teams took on when they created the supermax.

At some point, it's going to make it impossible for a team to build anything. And it all generally goes against small market teams. If a small market team gets a star like Lillard or Freak and then they force their way out, what's the point in being a fan of that team? They can't add a 2nd star nearly as easily as one of the big franchises.

If your team isn't competitive because you're nothing but a farm system for bigger franchises, it's eventually going to cripple the fan base for those teams. The NBA will inevitably have to deal with this issue. Letting a handful of stars control personnel is going to cause a lot of franchises to crash and burn, and revenue will crash along with it.

Yup….the players don’t seem to care…they are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

I have mentioned it for a couple of years on different threads, the league really needs to incentivize staying with a franchise both for the team and the player.

The league tried to do it with money. It obviously has not worked. The league did not consider that money is not an end in itself. The greatest value of money is the options it provides. You can’t pay the players so much money and think they will sacrifice the options their wealth provides. You must legislate playing out your contract otherwise players will continue to force their way to preferred destinations.

[bogg]

You must legislate playing out your contract otherwise players will continue to force their way to preferred destinations.

I mean, you say that, but ask New Orleans if they'd prefer to have Ingram and the six or seven first-rounderS they got for AD and Jrue or to watch them walk for nothing. Is the league going to prohibit teams trading players on max deals with two or fewer years remaining? I doubt anyone wants that.

[gouki88]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

I disagree on this take.  The whole point of the supermax deal that Dame signed was to allow teams that had developed a franchise player to not lose him in free agency for nothing, and be taken by surprise when that occurred.  Dame could have walked as a free agent a year ago, but he didn't, probably because Portland could offer him this special deal that no one else could.  Portland will get a chance to restart their franchise with a bevy of picks from a team like the Knicks that otherwise might have signed Dame in free agency.  I'm not going to call it a win-win, but the Blazers won't be left high and dry, and that was part of the bargain teams took on when they created the supermax.

At some point, it's going to make it impossible for a team to build anything. And it all generally goes against small market teams. If a small market team gets a star like Lillard or Freak and then they force their way out, what's the point in being a fan of that team? They can't add a 2nd star nearly as easily as one of the big franchises.

If your team isn't competitive because you're nothing but a farm system for bigger franchises, it's eventually going to cripple the fan base for those teams. The NBA will inevitably have to deal with this issue. Letting a handful of stars control personnel is going to cause a lot of franchises to crash and burn, and revenue will crash along with it.

Yup….the players don’t seem to care…they are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

I have mentioned it for a couple of years on different threads, the league really needs to incentivize staying with a franchise both for the team and the player.

The league tried to do it with money. It obviously has not worked. The league did not consider that money is not an end in itself. The greatest value of money is the options it provides. You can’t pay the players so much money and think they will sacrifice the options their wealth provides. You must legislate playing out your contract otherwise players will continue to force their way to preferred destinations.

I don't think that would work, let alone get past the NBPA. I think removing max contracts and making contract size unlimited would be more helpful. That way the best of the best would have to take discounts to team up, but teams can still be rewarded for good drafting as they would have their Bird Rights

[Rosco917]

I'd like to see Brown an Tatum learn to play with each other before we make another high profile investment on a ball dominant star. 

This coming year should tell Celtic fans a great deal about their compatibility with each other, other than taking turns going ISO.