Dame Lillard to demand trade shortly per Henry Abbott of True Hoop

[footey]

https://www.truehoop.com/p/about-that-time

Not sure if this is legit....

[Jiri Welsch]

I hope the Celtics stay away! We haven't had great luck with highly paid point guards in the past 5 years.

[perks-a-beast]

I hope the Celtics stay away! We haven't had great luck with highly paid point guards in the past 5 years.

Exactly!!

[Goldstar88]

His contract is outrageous and he’s going to be 32 next year. All set.

[bdm860]

His contract is outrageous and he’s going to be 32 next year. All set.

Not to split hairs, a year from now he'll be 32 (birthday was yesterday), but all next season he'll be 31.


I love Dame, and would love him on the Celtics, but I worry he's not going to age well.  I wonder how many more years of top level performance he has left.  I don't want him with that contract at that age.  He'll be making $20m more than Jayson Tatum on a max deal will be making in 2025.  Yikes.

[RJ87]

Evan Massey @massey_evan

Can confirm that the #Knicks are high on Damian Lillard's wishlist if he gets traded. Per source to
@HoopAnalysisNet, the Miami #Heat are another team he is intrigued by.

[Humble G]

It would prly cost brown right? I can't see flipping Horford and 99 first rounders lol

A 3 way with Dallas might be fun

Dallas gets mccullom, tristan and a 2nd round pick

Portland gets Jaylen brown, Porzingis, Robert Williams, 2 first round picks from Boston

Boston gets dame and kleber.

Line up of dame,smart,Tatum,kleber, horford

[Goldstar88]

His contract is outrageous and he’s going to be 32 next year. All set.

Not to split hairs, a year from now he'll be 32 (birthday was yesterday), but all next season he'll be 31.


I love Dame, and would love him on the Celtics, but I worry he's not going to age well.  I wonder how many more years of top level performance he has left.  I don't want him with that contract at that age.  He'll be making $20m more than Jayson Tatum on a max deal will be making in 2025.  Yikes.

Either way, his contract is ridiculous. I’m all set with the C’s giving $40-50M a year to a smaller guard on the wrong side of 30.

[Celtics2021]

If we hadn’t traded Kemba I’d have been fine with trying to turn Kemba, picks, and a prospect into Dame, but that ship has certainly sailed.

[RJ87]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

[Celtics2021]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

I disagree on this take.  The whole point of the supermax deal that Dame signed was to allow teams that had developed a franchise player to not lose him in free agency for nothing, and be taken by surprise when that occurred.  Dame could have walked as a free agent a year ago, but he didn't, probably because Portland could offer him this special deal that no one else could.  Portland will get a chance to restart their franchise with a bevy of picks from a team like the Knicks that otherwise might have signed Dame in free agency.  I'm not going to call it a win-win, but the Blazers won't be left high and dry, and that was part of the bargain teams took on when they created the supermax.

[ETNCeltics]

This is about to be a moment of reckoning in the player empowerment era if true. Dame is about to start a 4 year extension, 3 years guaranteed. If a player can request out with that much time remaining on his deal, do contracts even matter anymore?

For the record, I think players should be able to do what they want given they drive the revenue and a team can trade them at any moment no matter how dedicated they are to the organization & city. But I can't help but think owners are going to be up in arms if this comes to pass.

I disagree on this take.  The whole point of the supermax deal that Dame signed was to allow teams that had developed a franchise player to not lose him in free agency for nothing, and be taken by surprise when that occurred.  Dame could have walked as a free agent a year ago, but he didn't, probably because Portland could offer him this special deal that no one else could.  Portland will get a chance to restart their franchise with a bevy of picks from a team like the Knicks that otherwise might have signed Dame in free agency.  I'm not going to call it a win-win, but the Blazers won't be left high and dry, and that was part of the bargain teams took on when they created the supermax.

At some point, it's going to make it impossible for a team to build anything. And it all generally goes against small market teams. If a small market team gets a star like Lillard or Freak and then they force their way out, what's the point in being a fan of that team? They can't add a 2nd star nearly as easily as one of the big franchises.

If your team isn't competitive because you're nothing but a farm system for bigger franchises, it's eventually going to cripple the fan base for those teams. The NBA will inevitably have to deal with this issue. Letting a handful of stars control personnel is going to cause a lot of franchises to crash and burn, and revenue will crash along with it.

[tonydelk]

I hope he goes to NYC.  They still won't win anything but he'd be fun there.  For me the C's need to give their youth next year to prove it.  Don't resign Smart, Fournier.  Trade Thompson.  Sign a FA or 2 to one year deals.  Then next offseason pending on how much the cap goes up you can possible sign a max guy without giving up anyone.  The C's don't have the assets to land a top player now.  If they do it will cost them Brown and moving Brown does not make them better.

[Roy H.]

Then next offseason pending on how much the cap goes up you can possible sign a max guy without giving up anyone.

While I understand the argument, we would essentially be “giving up” Smart, Fournier and Horford.

[Moranis]

Evan Massey @massey_evan

Can confirm that the #Knicks are high on Damian Lillard's wishlist if he gets traded. Per source to
@HoopAnalysisNet, the Miami #Heat are another team he is intrigued by.

So it hasn't nothing to do with winning if he wants the Knicks.