Poll: Philly should trade Simmons for...

[Celtics4ever]

Brown is a really good two way player, Fox is not....

[Jvalin]

Not sure whether anybody has already mentioned it, but Simmoms for Kyrie might be a good trade for both teams, at least basketball-wise. It works salary-wise as well.

Kyrie would be a great fit alongside a dominant big man in Embiid.

Simmons would be a great fit alongside 2 elite scorers in KD and Harden (plus a sharpshooter in Joe Harris).

[gouki88]

I guess it is a pretty bad sign the kings apparently won’t consider trading fox for simmons. It seems his value around the league may not be what the 76ers would hope for. At the same time, it would be awfully tough to bring him back next season. It seemed like he threw a hissy fit just from being mentioned in the harden trades and this is much more substantial (plus Philly fans have turned on him).

I'd be surprised if they wouldn't trade Fox for Simmons straight up, but I got the impression the Sixers were asking for Fox + a bunch of other stuff.  Also, I think you could make a reasonable argument that Fox has more value than Jaylen Brown and I don't think many people would be trading Brown for Simmons either and certainly not if other things were expected.  And before anyone goes crazy, Fox just averaged 25/7/3.5 with 1.5 steals and a respectable TS% of 56.5 and a pretty strong FTr.  Fox is still just 23 and will be entering his 5th season and is signed long term.  He has great value.

 Fox does not have more value than brown around the league.  Maybe 5 Gms in the league would rather have Fox. Maybe 5.

I would think Fox has slightly more trade value than Brown. He plays a premium position and is also signed for more years. I just looked up the SI top 100 players going into this season, Brown was #38 and Fox was #37. I only mentioned those rankings to show how close the two players are.

Huh? He does not play a premium position, there are far more point guards of his level than there are wings of Brown's level, and Fox is missing three point shooting - a big deal come playoff time

[gouki88]

Not sure whether anybody has already mentioned it, but Simmoms for Kyrie might be a good trade for both teams, at least basketball-wise. It works salary-wise as well.

Kyrie would be a great fit alongside a dominant big man in Embiid.

Simmons would be a great fit alongside 2 elite scorers in KD and Harden (plus a sharpshooter in Joe Harris).

Basketball wise it would suck for us having to deal with that!

I think the Nets are too subject to the will of their stars, and as such won't make such a deal. Simmons would be an excellent Draymond-type next to Harden and KD.

Kyrie and Embiid present a big injury risk, but still would be unstoppable

[Moranis]

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The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

[SHAQATTACK]

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The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Much as I detest Kyrie and Nets ,  that might be a good fit for Philly anyway to win now …but Kyrie would never leave KD in the lurch and his giant NYC market he craves so bad. 

[celticsclay]

I guess it is a pretty bad sign the kings apparently won’t consider trading fox for simmons. It seems his value around the league may not be what the 76ers would hope for. At the same time, it would be awfully tough to bring him back next season. It seemed like he threw a hissy fit just from being mentioned in the harden trades and this is much more substantial (plus Philly fans have turned on him).

I'd be surprised if they wouldn't trade Fox for Simmons straight up, but I got the impression the Sixers were asking for Fox + a bunch of other stuff.  Also, I think you could make a reasonable argument that Fox has more value than Jaylen Brown and I don't think many people would be trading Brown for Simmons either and certainly not if other things were expected.  And before anyone goes crazy, Fox just averaged 25/7/3.5 with 1.5 steals and a respectable TS% of 56.5 and a pretty strong FTr.  Fox is still just 23 and will be entering his 5th season and is signed long term.  He has great value.

 Fox does not have more value than brown around the league.  Maybe 5 Gms in the league would rather have Fox. Maybe 5.

I would think Fox has slightly more trade value than Brown. He plays a premium position and is also signed for more years. I just looked up the SI top 100 players going into this season, Brown was #38 and Fox was #37. I only mentioned those rankings to show how close the two players are.

Huh? He does not play a premium position, there are far more point guards of his level than there are wings of Brown's level, and Fox is missing three point shooting - a big deal come playoff time

Yea very strange to call point guard a premium position when the league is so stacked at that position. I mean you probably get down to lower half of league's starting point guards before you get to fox for play right now (realize he has more value given he is young and will pass these guys in time). But for a team like Philly trying to win now (in no order)

Curry
Irving
Lillard
Paul
Westbrook
Trae
Doncic
Conley
Holiday
Lowry
Murray
Morant

Then you got a bunch of young guys like
Sexton
Fox
Ball etc

Plus not even sure he is better than a guy like Brodgon.

[gouki88]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

[Moranis]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling. 

[gouki88]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling.

How is Simmons a better fit alongside Fox? Haliburton is an elite shooter, unlike either of those two. They would also be without their two best shooters in Hield and Haliburton

[Moranis]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling.

How is Simmons a better fit alongside Fox? Haliburton is an elite shooter, unlike either of those two. They would also be without their two best shooters in Hield and Haliburton

I said in the Holmes role, not the Haliburton role.  Holmes doesn't shoot any 3's either.  Obviously they'd lose some shooting, so they'd need to fill that in, but I think Simmons in the role Holmes plays would just supercharge their fast break.

[gouki88]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling.

How is Simmons a better fit alongside Fox? Haliburton is an elite shooter, unlike either of those two. They would also be without their two best shooters in Hield and Haliburton

I said in the Holmes role, not the Haliburton role.  Holmes doesn't shoot any 3's either.  Obviously they'd lose some shooting, so they'd need to fill that in, but I think Simmons in the role Holmes plays would just supercharge their fast break.

I know what you said, I wasn't saying Simmons would be replacing Haliburton. My point was they don't have anybody who can replace that shooting. Trading those two would mean Sacramento loses 6.1 made threes a game! Delon Wright cannot fill that gap. Plus the 9th pick (given Haliburton was #12 last year I don't think Sacramento would undervalue it) isn't some meagre throw-in.

I just don't see the appeal for either team really.

[Moranis]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling.

How is Simmons a better fit alongside Fox? Haliburton is an elite shooter, unlike either of those two. They would also be without their two best shooters in Hield and Haliburton

I said in the Holmes role, not the Haliburton role.  Holmes doesn't shoot any 3's either.  Obviously they'd lose some shooting, so they'd need to fill that in, but I think Simmons in the role Holmes plays would just supercharge their fast break.

I know what you said, I wasn't saying Simmons would be replacing Haliburton. My point was they don't have anybody who can replace that shooting. Trading those two would mean Sacramento loses 6.1 made threes a game! Delon Wright cannot fill that gap. Plus the 9th pick (given Haliburton was #12 last year I don't think Sacramento would undervalue it) isn't some meagre throw-in.

I just don't see the appeal for either team really.

I think they could find shooting.  It is always available, though Curry could probably go back to Sacto if they added some more money themselves (Wright or Bagley). 

I'm not sure either team would do it either, but I do think the value is in range.

[gouki88]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling.

How is Simmons a better fit alongside Fox? Haliburton is an elite shooter, unlike either of those two. They would also be without their two best shooters in Hield and Haliburton

I said in the Holmes role, not the Haliburton role.  Holmes doesn't shoot any 3's either.  Obviously they'd lose some shooting, so they'd need to fill that in, but I think Simmons in the role Holmes plays would just supercharge their fast break.

I know what you said, I wasn't saying Simmons would be replacing Haliburton. My point was they don't have anybody who can replace that shooting. Trading those two would mean Sacramento loses 6.1 made threes a game! Delon Wright cannot fill that gap. Plus the 9th pick (given Haliburton was #12 last year I don't think Sacramento would undervalue it) isn't some meagre throw-in.

I just don't see the appeal for either team really.

I think they could find shooting.  It is always available, though Curry could probably go back to Sacto if they added some more money themselves (Wright or Bagley). 

I'm not sure either team would do it either, but I do think the value is in range.

Value-wise I agree, I just don't like the fit for either. It seems like a step back for Philly in terms of making a run at the title, and it seems to clog the paint for Sacramento

[KG Living Legend]

https://sports.yahoo.com/exploring-the-nba-trade-market-for-available-philadelphia-76-ers-star-ben-simmons-190905066.html?ncid=twitter_yahoosport_dw14wrbb51g

The proposed trades in the article

Sacramento - Hield, Haliburton, 9
Brooklyn - Irving
Toronto - Siakam, 22 top 10 protected 1st
Chicago - LaVine, Satoransky
Indiana - Brogdon, Warren, 13
New Orleans - Ingram

Not even Sacramento is dumb enough to do that deal.

Simmons alongside Zion is something I would try and avoid if I were New Orleans. However, Simmons alongside Vucevic in Chicago would be really tough to deal with. Would also make my guy Thad Young expendable.

I don't know.  Hield has been on the block for awhile, and while Haliburton had a nice rookie year, he probably isn't a long term fit with Fox and lots of promising rookies don't end up progressing.  9 is obviously a top 10 pick, but it does seem to fall outside of the really elite players.  I think Simmons would be great in the Holmes role there.  Surrounded by shooters with Fox also able to take on some ball handling.

How is Simmons a better fit alongside Fox? Haliburton is an elite shooter, unlike either of those two. They would also be without their two best shooters in Hield and Haliburton

I said in the Holmes role, not the Haliburton role.  Holmes doesn't shoot any 3's either.  Obviously they'd lose some shooting, so they'd need to fill that in, but I think Simmons in the role Holmes plays would just supercharge their fast break.

I know what you said, I wasn't saying Simmons would be replacing Haliburton. My point was they don't have anybody who can replace that shooting. Trading those two would mean Sacramento loses 6.1 made threes a game! Delon Wright cannot fill that gap. Plus the 9th pick (given Haliburton was #12 last year I don't think Sacramento would undervalue it) isn't some meagre throw-in.

I just don't see the appeal for either team really.

I think they could find shooting.  It is always available, though Curry could probably go back to Sacto if they added some more money themselves (Wright or Bagley). 

I'm not sure either team would do it either, but I do think the value is in range.

Value-wise I agree, I just don't like the fit for either. It seems like a step back for Philly in terms of making a run at the title, and it seems to clog the paint for Sacramento

Step back for Philly???

 A 6'5" pg who is a great playmaker and knock down three point shooter which is exactly what they need.

 Plus another knock down three point shooter in hield. Plus the #9 pick in a loaded draft?

 Can't ask for much more than that for a guy like Simmons who refuses to improve his stroke.