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Tatum on his All-NBA Snub, Udoka, etc.
« on: July 12, 2021, 06:34:43 PM »

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Tatum seems to be coming out of his shell more and more. I think not making the All-NBA team is going to bring out the best in him. Little extra motivation...




“Yeah, I was mad about it and it had nothing to do with the money,” he said. “I just felt like I increased my assists, my points, my rebounds, I clearly had a better season this year than last season. With COVID and how it affected our team, I guess people held that against me. I clearly should have made one of those teams but it will happen, but just get better for next year.

“How could you watch my game and the season I had and think I wasn’t one of the best 15 players?”


Joining him in Las Vegas to work with the Select Team is Udoka, with whom Tatum is forming a bond. Tatum was consulted by former coach and new president of basketball operations Brad Stevens about candidates, and he endorsed Udoka.

“I think it was big,” Tatum said. “I think all of the candidates and finalists would have been great decisions. Extremely happy about Ime. I’ve known him for a little while. He’s extremely motivated and I think everybody has a good feeling about this. I think this is going to be great.”

Tatum said he talked with Brown during the coaching search and the two shared ideas of the type of coach they wanted.

“They asked for our input and I know from my perspective, I gave input, but never ‘you need to do this or you need to do that,’” Tatum said. “That’s what they get paid to do. Whoever they hired, I will go out there and do what I got to do.”

Tatum said he fully embraces his role as franchise cornerstone. Following the trade of Kemba Walker, Tatum is now the highest-paid Celtic and most identifiable player.

“That’s the position I’m in now,” he said. “I’ve got to embrace it because I’m invested and I’m a part of all of this and [I embrace] just having my hands on. I got a feel for things going on with the team and the organization and I think it’s only right.”

There have been questions as to whether Tatum and Brown play the same position and whether the two can not only reach the next level together, but help make each other better players. Tatum said they have discussed their role in helping the Celtics return to prominence.

“That’s the goal [to make each other better],” Tatum said. “Both highly motivated and driven guys that want to be the best they can be. We just really want to win. We both really care about winning at our core. That’s the start of it. We’re going to try our best to figure it out.”

Tatum understands he’s the face of the franchise and is fully prepared to accept all the responsibility and scrutiny. At age 23, Tatum has already reached two All-Star Games and amassed games of 53, 60, and 50 points in a six-week span in April and May.

He wants to be one of the greats.

“It’s what I always wanted,” he said. “No matter how old or young I was, I never looked at myself as one of the best young players in the league. I never like when people say that. I feel like I’m one of the best players. That’s what I envisioned when I was younger. That’s what I worked for. I never wanted to just get to the NBA and be in the league, I wanted to be one of the best players.”

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I for one am digging the confidence. Excited to see him and Brown under a new coach
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I for one am digging the confidence. Excited to see him and Brown under a new coach

Agreed. He needs to have that mindset to get his game to the next level. I want to see “Mad” Tatum.
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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that

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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that

Doesn't quite make sense why they would. They come across plenty smart.

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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that

Doesn't quite make sense why they would. They come across plenty smart.
I agree completely but there were some that were saying their egos were such they couldn't coexist. They used the fact that both went iso a lot and didn't pass to each other a lot as proof. I saw that more as bad coaching rather than personality issues.

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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that
My favourite is the whole "they can't play their best alongside one another" when both of them had career best seasons as the two main options of the team.
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that
My favourite is the whole "they can't play their best alongside one another" when both of them had career best seasons as the two main options of the team.

The "career best seasons" point says a lot.

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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that

Doesn't quite make sense why they would. They come across plenty smart.
I agree completely but there were some that were saying their egos were such they couldn't coexist. They used the fact that both went iso a lot and didn't pass to each other a lot as proof. I saw that more as bad coaching rather than personality issues.

Stevens can always flip Jaylen Brown for Bradley Beal to make things more compatible


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“Yeah, I was mad about it and it had nothing to do with the money,” he said. “I just felt like I increased my assists, my points, my rebounds, I clearly had a better season this year than last season. With COVID and how it affected our team, I guess people held that against me. I clearly should have made one of those teams but it will happen, but just get better for next year.

“How could you watch my game and the season I had and think I wasn’t one of the best 15 players?”

Tatum needs to let go of the All NBA "snub".  All the other stuff is good to hear but I don't think it does any good to continue to complain about the All NBA selection.  Every year there is someone who doesn't quite make it.  Last season it was him.  I understand if he feels that way, but there is no need to keep saying it out loud.  Just let it go and focus on the other things.  Get solid with Brown, continue to improve your game, embrace the new coach/system.

I appreciate that he is young and dealing with a bright spotlight.  He is handling it way better than I ever could have at age 23.  It is part of being the best of the best though and if that is what he wants to be, it is part of what he has to deal with.

Tatum is an exceptional talent and a fine young man.  I am thrilled to have him the face of the Celtics, hopefully for many years.

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He always says the right thing.

I've said it before: Hopefully he knows that the path to get to where he wants to be is by winning. I think he understands that. This upcoming season is going to be huge for Tatum and Brown. I'm excited.
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There are rumors in some circles that the Jays have this rivalry and animosity with each other. These comments sure seem like they communicate a bunch and see themselves helping each other to greatness. Really like that

I saw a video somewhere (I think) Jaylen was actually talking about how their families are actually pretty close now. Like Jaylen's brother babysits for Jayson's kid or something. So I don't think they have any animosity on a personal level. They just need to figure out the "my turn, your turn" thing (with Ime). But so did Lebron and Wade once upon a time.

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I remember there was a time when there was a talk of a controversy about whether it was Pierce's team or Antoine Walker's team.  Then Walker made a statement saying it is Pierce's team, no question.  There probably never was a real issue, just something for the press to talk about but it was very easy to put an end to the talk.

Brown is way smarter and more savvy than Antoine so I am sure he will not let this become a thing.  Tatum is the 1, Brown is the 2 for now and maybe can be a 1B.  They are fine, just like Jordan and Pippen or LeBron and Wade or Curry and Thompson or Harden and Durant or Leonard and George (how many examples do you need).

The only question is what to put around them in order to get the most out of them.

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“Yeah, I was mad about it and it had nothing to do with the money,” he said. “I just felt like I increased my assists, my points, my rebounds, I clearly had a better season this year than last season. With COVID and how it affected our team, I guess people held that against me. I clearly should have made one of those teams but it will happen, but just get better for next year.

“How could you watch my game and the season I had and think I wasn’t one of the best 15 players?”

Tatum needs to let go of the All NBA "snub".  All the other stuff is good to hear but I don't think it does any good to continue to complain about the All NBA selection.  Every year there is someone who doesn't quite make it.  Last season it was him.  I understand if he feels that way, but there is no need to keep saying it out loud.  Just let it go and focus on the other things.  Get solid with Brown, continue to improve your game, embrace the new coach/system.

I appreciate that he is young and dealing with a bright spotlight.  He is handling it way better than I ever could have at age 23.  It is part of being the best of the best though and if that is what he wants to be, it is part of what he has to deal with.

Tatum is an exceptional talent and a fine young man.  I am thrilled to have him the face of the Celtics, hopefully for many years.

I don’t think he should talk to the media about not making the All-NBA team anymore, but I certainly don’t want him to let go of it. This is the kind of thing that fuels great players. I’m glad that he’s taking it personally and feels slighted. Now go out and show them that they were wrong.
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I don’t think he should talk to the media about not making the All-NBA team anymore, but I certainly don’t want him to let go of it. This is the kind of thing that fuels great players. I’m glad that he’s taking it personally and feels slighted. Now go out and show them that they were wrong.

He does not looked fueled to dominate in the Olympics thus far.     Right now it is all talk