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What would the Grizzlies want for Anderson
« on: July 05, 2021, 04:35:56 PM »

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 What are the teams wants or needs. Do they need shooting,  defense,  bigs,  we can give you anything besides quality PGs, and they have Morant.

Let's make a deal. How about Romeo, and our two most exciting prospects Grant Williams and Carsen Edward's.

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 What are the teams wants or needs. Do they need shooting,  defense,  bigs,  we can give you anything besides quality PGs, and they have Morant.

Let's make a deal. How about Romeo, and our two most exciting prospects Grant Williams and Carsen Edward's.

So one unproven 2nd year player and two G-Leaguers for a starter? That’s not how these things work.
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Hopefully Tristan Thompson or salary relief (TPE).

Don't really want to trade Romeo and Grant for him, but I am higher on Romeo than most. Also Anderson is an UFA after next season. We just got a better player than him for 2 2nds in Fournier.

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I don’t see Memphis interested in TT. They’ve got plenty of bigs. Therefore, it seems like they’d be more inclined to want the TPE with a pick or prospect. That could get steep depending on what pick/prospect we’re talking about.

My current favorite deal is moving TT to Sac (who has no starting caliber 5 of any sort pending Richaun Holmes’s UFA) for Delon Wright. Then, we could target the 4 spot with the taxpayer MLE.

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2021, 07:10:16 PM »

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It is really hard to tell.

Memphis are not really a team with a plan. They just have a lot of depth and youth. Try to win. One major young talent in Ja Morant & one interesting young talent in JJJ. Outside of them, it is unclear what they plan to do with anybody.

Which makes it very hard to tell what it would take to get Kyle Anderson. Complicating matters further is that Kyle himself is a strange player whose value fluctuates wildly depending on who is doing the talking. Where do Memphis stand on him as an individual player? Is Kyle part of their long term future?

Or is Kyle a bad fit next to Morant because of his limited outside shooting and reluctant to put up jump-shots? Does that make him a bad floor spacer? Does he limit their best player Ja Morant? Well, yes, he does. Should Kyle be part of their long term future? Probably not.

Then again, who the heck knows what Memphis' long term plans are. There is no plan there that I can see. Other than another step towards mediocrity. Nothing based around winning a Championship. So does Kyle help make them mediocre? Yes, yes he does. Does that mean they want to keep? Yeah maybe so.

I have not got a clue what this team is trying to do / is thinking / or how they value Kyle Anderson. The price for him could be surprisingly low to far too high. It is just ... what the heck are they doing!?

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2021, 08:13:07 PM »

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It is really hard to tell.

Memphis are not really a team with a plan. They just have a lot of depth and youth. Try to win. One major young talent in Ja Morant & one interesting young talent in JJJ. Outside of them, it is unclear what they plan to do with anybody.

Which makes it very hard to tell what it would take to get Kyle Anderson. Complicating matters further is that Kyle himself is a strange player whose value fluctuates wildly depending on who is doing the talking. Where do Memphis stand on him as an individual player? Is Kyle part of their long term future?

Or is Kyle a bad fit next to Morant because of his limited outside shooting and reluctant to put up jump-shots? Does that make him a bad floor spacer? Does he limit their best player Ja Morant? Well, yes, he does. Should Kyle be part of their long term future? Probably not.

Then again, who the heck knows what Memphis' long term plans are. There is no plan there that I can see. Other than another step towards mediocrity. Nothing based around winning a Championship. So does Kyle help make them mediocre? Yes, yes he does. Does that mean they want to keep? Yeah maybe so.

I have not got a clue what this team is trying to do / is thinking / or how they value Kyle Anderson. The price for him could be surprisingly low to far too high. It is just ... what the heck are they doing!?
A small market team like Memphis would be silly to focus on winning the championship.  They want to get back to where they were.  A competitive team that made the playoffs 7 straight seasons and got past the 1st round in 3 of those seasons.   They want a team that puts butts in the seats. 

Anderson shot 36% on 3.8 3pt attempts in only 27.3 minutes per game.  That's not a bad fit with Morant.  They need a versatile player like him.  I suspect they'll be happy to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2021, 08:52:58 PM »

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What is the fascination with Kyle Anderson? He never seemed all that great to me.

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What is the fascination with Kyle Anderson? He never seemed all that great to me.

He’s a good role player at a position of need who makes under $10 million, which means he both fits our trade exception or Tristan Thompson’s salary, and likely isn’t that expensive to acquire.  It’s pretty easy to see how he’d fit on the roster.  When looking at reasonable ways to improve the team, it makes sense that he’s on the list.

He’s not great, you’re right (although a few years ago he led the league in defensive box plus-minus, so he’s certainly not bad).  But Grant Williams and Semi Ojeleye played over 2,000 minutes last year, and if the bulk of those had gone to Kyle Anderson we’d have been better off.

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What is the fascination with Kyle Anderson? He never seemed all that great to me.

He’s a good role player at a position of need who makes under $10 million, which means he both fits our trade exception or Tristan Thompson’s salary, and likely isn’t that expensive to acquire.  It’s pretty easy to see how he’d fit on the roster.  When looking at reasonable ways to improve the team, it makes sense that he’s on the list.

He’s not great, you’re right (although a few years ago he led the league in defensive box plus-minus, so he’s certainly not bad).  But Grant Williams and Semi Ojeleye played over 2,000 minutes last year, and if the bulk of those had gone to Kyle Anderson we’d have been better off.

TP. The bolded statement is massive, and, IMO, one of the easiest paths to meaningful improvement next year. Step 1 is of course health. But step 2 is simply replacing the gobs of minutes we used last year on 4A players.

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 What are the teams wants or needs. Do they need shooting,  defense,  bigs,  we can give you anything besides quality PGs, and they have Morant.

Let's make a deal. How about Romeo, and our two most exciting prospects Grant Williams and Carsen Edward's.

So one unproven 2nd year player and two G-Leaguers for a starter? That’s not how these things work.



. That's why I posed it as a question Einstein.  And by saying carsen and Grant I was joking haha.

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What is the fascination with Kyle Anderson? He never seemed all that great to me.

He’s a good role player at a position of need who makes under $10 million, which means he both fits our trade exception or Tristan Thompson’s salary, and likely isn’t that expensive to acquire.  It’s pretty easy to see how he’d fit on the roster.  When looking at reasonable ways to improve the team, it makes sense that he’s on the list.

He’s not great, you’re right (although a few years ago he led the league in defensive box plus-minus, so he’s certainly not bad).  But Grant Williams and Semi Ojeleye played over 2,000 minutes last year, and if the bulk of those had gone to Kyle Anderson we’d have been better off.

TP. The bolded statement is massive, and, IMO, one of the easiest paths to meaningful improvement next year. Step 1 is of course health. But step 2 is simply replacing the gobs of minutes we used last year on 4A players.
Actually ...wouldn't good health, all by itself, fix the extended minutes played by "4A" players? Or at least a whole bunch of it?

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2021, 10:11:28 PM »

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It is really hard to tell.

Memphis are not really a team with a plan. They just have a lot of depth and youth. Try to win. One major young talent in Ja Morant & one interesting young talent in JJJ. Outside of them, it is unclear what they plan to do with anybody.

Which makes it very hard to tell what it would take to get Kyle Anderson. Complicating matters further is that Kyle himself is a strange player whose value fluctuates wildly depending on who is doing the talking. Where do Memphis stand on him as an individual player? Is Kyle part of their long term future?

Or is Kyle a bad fit next to Morant because of his limited outside shooting and reluctant to put up jump-shots? Does that make him a bad floor spacer? Does he limit their best player Ja Morant? Well, yes, he does. Should Kyle be part of their long term future? Probably not.

Then again, who the heck knows what Memphis' long term plans are. There is no plan there that I can see. Other than another step towards mediocrity. Nothing based around winning a Championship. So does Kyle help make them mediocre? Yes, yes he does. Does that mean they want to keep? Yeah maybe so.

I have not got a clue what this team is trying to do / is thinking / or how they value Kyle Anderson. The price for him could be surprisingly low to far too high. It is just ... what the heck are they doing!?
A small market team like Memphis would be silly to focus on winning the championship.  They want to get back to where they were.  A competitive team that made the playoffs 7 straight seasons and got past the 1st round in 3 of those seasons.   They want a team that puts butts in the seats. 

Anderson shot 36% on 3.8 3pt attempts in only 27.3 minutes per game.  That's not a bad fit with Morant.  They need a versatile player like him.  I suspect they'll be happy to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

Wait, are you suggesting that an NBA team focusing on winning a championship is silly?

Because that is just silly.

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2021, 10:19:44 PM »

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It is really hard to tell.

Memphis are not really a team with a plan. They just have a lot of depth and youth. Try to win. One major young talent in Ja Morant & one interesting young talent in JJJ. Outside of them, it is unclear what they plan to do with anybody.

Which makes it very hard to tell what it would take to get Kyle Anderson. Complicating matters further is that Kyle himself is a strange player whose value fluctuates wildly depending on who is doing the talking. Where do Memphis stand on him as an individual player? Is Kyle part of their long term future?

Or is Kyle a bad fit next to Morant because of his limited outside shooting and reluctant to put up jump-shots? Does that make him a bad floor spacer? Does he limit their best player Ja Morant? Well, yes, he does. Should Kyle be part of their long term future? Probably not.

Then again, who the heck knows what Memphis' long term plans are. There is no plan there that I can see. Other than another step towards mediocrity. Nothing based around winning a Championship. So does Kyle help make them mediocre? Yes, yes he does. Does that mean they want to keep? Yeah maybe so.

I have not got a clue what this team is trying to do / is thinking / or how they value Kyle Anderson. The price for him could be surprisingly low to far too high. It is just ... what the heck are they doing!?
A small market team like Memphis would be silly to focus on winning the championship.  They want to get back to where they were.  A competitive team that made the playoffs 7 straight seasons and got past the 1st round in 3 of those seasons.   They want a team that puts butts in the seats. 

Anderson shot 36% on 3.8 3pt attempts in only 27.3 minutes per game.  That's not a bad fit with Morant.  They need a versatile player like him.  I suspect they'll be happy to re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

Wait, are you suggesting that an NBA team focusing on winning a championship is silly?

Because that is just silly.
It's the same game plan Philly had with The Process.....just try to get back to being a team that can win 50 games. Seems like team managements that concentrate on that are playing checkers while others are playing chess.

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What is the fascination with Kyle Anderson? He never seemed all that great to me.

He’s a good role player at a position of need who makes under $10 million, which means he both fits our trade exception or Tristan Thompson’s salary, and likely isn’t that expensive to acquire.  It’s pretty easy to see how he’d fit on the roster.  When looking at reasonable ways to improve the team, it makes sense that he’s on the list.

He’s not great, you’re right (although a few years ago he led the league in defensive box plus-minus, so he’s certainly not bad).  But Grant Williams and Semi Ojeleye played over 2,000 minutes last year, and if the bulk of those had gone to Kyle Anderson we’d have been better off.

TP. The bolded statement is massive, and, IMO, one of the easiest paths to meaningful improvement next year. Step 1 is of course health. But step 2 is simply replacing the gobs of minutes we used last year on 4A players.
Actually ...wouldn't good health, all by itself, fix the extended minutes played by "4A" players? Or at least a whole bunch of it?

Not in the case of the PF position, no.  Tatum played the 4 a lot, and only missed a few games, and we often went with a two-big starting lineup and three big rotation for half of the season, and Grant and Semi were still able to get 2,000 minutes.  We could easily have the same setup this year (Horford, TL, and Thompson), and there would still be a lot of minutes available in the rotation.

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I don't see the point in Anderson at all.  Though I think he will be available with JJJ presumably going to be healthy next year.  And I know they started both of them in the playoffs, but I can't imagine that will actually work long term unless they move JV and move JJJ to center (which would be a mistake) and Memphis has much more important players to spend their limited resources on.  I just don't think they are going to want to pay Anderson what he will command when Morant and JJJ are on max contracts, Brooks has a new deal, and presumably they've kept JV. 
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