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Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2021, 01:03:01 PM »

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Recent video of Tatum working out in advance of Olympics.  Dang he looks powerful:

https://twitter.com/overtime/status/1412141474322452480?s=20


Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2021, 01:19:03 PM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?

Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2021, 01:50:57 PM »

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Thought this was an interesting read and worth sharing...

Drew Hanlen, who’s Tatum’s shooting coach, recognizes the importance of getting to the line and said it’s something he plans Tatum to work on this offseason.

I don’t think there wasn’t anything the Nets threw at him that he wasn’t prepared for, but we noticed a big trend,” Hanlen told the Boston Herald’s Mark Murphy. “When Jayson shot a high volume of free throws, he put up huge numbers. That’s the big focus — being able to get downhill more, which allows him to get to the line more, which also allows him to add another dynamic to his game. That’s the focus.”

A big thing in getting to the stripe is being able to play physically – which Hanlen says is the top thing he’ll work with Tatum on this offseason. In addition to increasing Tatum’s free throw output, Hanlen wants to see Tatum continue to grow as a passer to help handle the pressure and physicality opposing defenses give him.

“The big thing for me is that he has to be able to initiate contact instead of letting the defender get to him first,” Hanlen said. “He has to be able to act before the defender gets to him, because if the defender gets to him, he can bump him off of his line. But if Jayson gets into the defender and starts veering, and they impede his balance or his angle, that dictates the foul.”

“No. 1 is getting downhill. You’ve seen him grow during the season in that category, but getting downhill will be No. 1, and being able to finish when you do get downhill,” Hanlen added. “The second thing — last year he started to see different schemes and coverages thrown at him, so being able to prepare for some of those next-level things so he can become a playmaker when teams try to squeeze the ball out of his hands.”

Hanlen told Murphy that his plan for Tatum is to have him work on the aforementioned things while he’s with USA Basketball. Once that’s finished, Tatum and Hanlen will work together for six weeks before he has to report back to Boston for the start of training camp. -Boston Herald


It’s almost comically modest to call Drew Hanlen a “shooting coach”.

I feel like the C’s should try to sign Hanlen as one of the assistants. He’s worked with several star players (Embiid, Tatum, Beal) and they all seem to love the guy. Plus, he knows his stuff and is an absolute basketball junky.

That would require him to drop all his other clients (including  Beal,  Embiid, Clarkson, etc.) He probably prefers staying independent.

He works with those guys in the off-season, maybe he can do both? Probably not, but who knows...
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Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2021, 08:54:47 PM »

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Thought this was an interesting read and worth sharing...

Drew Hanlen, who’s Tatum’s shooting coach, recognizes the importance of getting to the line and said it’s something he plans Tatum to work on this offseason.

I don’t think there wasn’t anything the Nets threw at him that he wasn’t prepared for, but we noticed a big trend,” Hanlen told the Boston Herald’s Mark Murphy. “When Jayson shot a high volume of free throws, he put up huge numbers. That’s the big focus — being able to get downhill more, which allows him to get to the line more, which also allows him to add another dynamic to his game. That’s the focus.”

A big thing in getting to the stripe is being able to play physically – which Hanlen says is the top thing he’ll work with Tatum on this offseason. In addition to increasing Tatum’s free throw output, Hanlen wants to see Tatum continue to grow as a passer to help handle the pressure and physicality opposing defenses give him.

“The big thing for me is that he has to be able to initiate contact instead of letting the defender get to him first,” Hanlen said. “He has to be able to act before the defender gets to him, because if the defender gets to him, he can bump him off of his line. But if Jayson gets into the defender and starts veering, and they impede his balance or his angle, that dictates the foul.”

“No. 1 is getting downhill. You’ve seen him grow during the season in that category, but getting downhill will be No. 1, and being able to finish when you do get downhill,” Hanlen added. “The second thing — last year he started to see different schemes and coverages thrown at him, so being able to prepare for some of those next-level things so he can become a playmaker when teams try to squeeze the ball out of his hands.”

Hanlen told Murphy that his plan for Tatum is to have him work on the aforementioned things while he’s with USA Basketball. Once that’s finished, Tatum and Hanlen will work together for six weeks before he has to report back to Boston for the start of training camp. -Boston Herald


It’s almost comically modest to call Drew Hanlen a “shooting coach”.

I feel like the C’s should try to sign Hanlen as one of the assistants. He’s worked with several star players (Embiid, Tatum, Beal) and they all seem to love the guy. Plus, he knows his stuff and is an absolute basketball junky.

That would require him to drop all his other clients (including  Beal,  Embiid, Clarkson, etc.) He probably prefers staying independent.

He works with those guys in the off-season, maybe he can do both? Probably not, but who knows...

You’re right, probably not. Assistant coaches work long hours and travel constantly. Then there’s the matter of money... But I’d bet that the decisive thing for him is the fact that he’s building something that’s his own.
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Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2021, 09:56:40 PM »

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lol…..another victory for those who asked that these shooting coaches incorporate some team ball (passing) into their ‘coaching’.

Why does that matter?

True. It does not matter that you were wrong.

What is your obsession of getting "victories?" Or bragging that a person is "wrong?"

that post is rich ….considering the source.

Are you going to answer the question?

Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2021, 10:15:36 PM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?

When he blows off this entitled fanbase and forces his way to another team.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2021, 10:54:36 PM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?
I didn't know Hanlan was capable of brain surgery.

Expecting Tatum to ever pass like the two best passing forwards of all time is a bit much.
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2021, 11:28:08 PM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?
I didn't know Hanlan was capable of brain surgery.

Expecting Tatum to ever pass like the two best passing forwards of all time is a bit much.

Why appreciate the work and development of the Jays when you can instead belittle them for not living up to the ghosts in your head? But I guess that's what happens when fans form their opinions around the constant stream of stupidity spewed by Boston radio personalities who don't even watch the sport.

I posted in another thread recently that if you look at other small forwards in their 4th years (Kawhi, Durant, Butler), Jayson had more assists per game. Compared to where he was as a rookie, it's clearly an aspect of his game that has improved. But instead of taking in the development and work he's put in, it's "blech. He's not Bird." It's toxic.
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Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2021, 11:35:03 PM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?
I didn't know Hanlan was capable of brain surgery.

Expecting Tatum to ever pass like the two best passing forwards of all time is a bit much.

Why appreciate the work and development of the Jays when you can instead belittle them for not living up to the ghosts in your head? But I guess that's what happens when fans form their opinions around the constant stream of stupidity spewed by Boston radio personalities who don't even watch the sport.

I posted in another thread recently that if you look at other small forwards in their 4th years (Kawhi, Durant, Butler), Jayson had more assists per game. Compared to where he was as a rookie, it's clearly an aspect of his game that has improved. But instead of taking in the development and work he's put in, it's "blech. He's not Bird." It's toxic.
He's also a pretty high level passer compared to other score-first wings in the league, and is right in line with guys like Kobe, T-Mac, Pierce, Vince Carter and MVP-Iverson at similar ages, despite some of those guys having the ball way more than Tatum.
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Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2021, 01:36:47 AM »

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lol…..another victory for those who asked that these shooting coaches incorporate some team ball (passing) into their ‘coaching’.

Why does that matter?

True. It does not matter that you were wrong.

What is your obsession of getting "victories?" Or bragging that a person is "wrong?"

that post is rich ….considering the source.

Are you going to answer the question?

Igave you my response.

Re: Analysis from Tatums shooting coach
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2021, 04:36:39 AM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?
I didn't know Hanlan was capable of brain surgery.

Expecting Tatum to ever pass like the two best passing forwards of all time is a bit much.

Why appreciate the work and development of the Jays when you can instead belittle them for not living up to the ghosts in your head? But I guess that's what happens when fans form their opinions around the constant stream of stupidity spewed by Boston radio personalities who don't even watch the sport.

I posted in another thread recently that if you look at other small forwards in their 4th years (Kawhi, Durant, Butler), Jayson had more assists per game. Compared to where he was as a rookie, it's clearly an aspect of his game that has improved. But instead of taking in the development and work he's put in, it's "blech. He's not Bird." It's toxic.
He's also a pretty high level passer compared to other score-first wings in the league, and is right in line with guys like Kobe, T-Mac, Pierce, Vince Carter and MVP-Iverson at similar ages, despite some of those guys having the ball way more than Tatum.
I think he's right in line with Pierce as a passer after his mini-leap this year (purely on skill because shot creation has exploded in the databall era). T-Mac was an elite passing wing while Carter, Kobe and Iverson were all really nice passers (Kobe had decision-making issues at times, but his passing was very good).
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« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2021, 04:37:58 AM »

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When is Hanlan going to help Tatum pass like Lebron or Bird?
I didn't know Hanlan was capable of brain surgery.

Expecting Tatum to ever pass like the two best passing forwards of all time is a bit much.
^this. Tatum can stop making leaps from now on (basically just refine aspects of his game) and still end up with a top 30-40 career in NBA history when it's all said and done - All-Star/All-NBA calibre seasons can be insanely valuable if you crank out 10-15 of them during your career.
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« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2021, 09:30:52 PM »

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Recent video of Tatum working out in advance of Olympics.  Dang he looks powerful:

https://twitter.com/overtime/status/1412141474322452480?s=20
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Tatum is just so big. I love it.

As for the Hanlen stuff, it's nothing we haven't all thought ourselves so not a huge deal but it is nice to hear.
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