Center/Bigs MPG expectations

[KG Living Legend]

 
 Surprised to see when healthy Horford is playing 28 MPG last season. Over 30 MPG the year before.

 Trystan Thompson played 24 mpg last year. Timelord played 19 MPG pretty high impact minutes.

 Finally moses Brown played 24 mpg down the stretch for the Thunder. He needs minutes to develop.

 Now if Horford and Timelord are healthy  they could split time and play 20 mpg  of high impact  minutes each,  and give mop up minutes to Thompson and Brown. 

 The other question is do you think any of the four bigs can play together? Since Horford is the best floor spacer can he play with Williams  or Brown  or Thompson.

We will certainly have a chance to finally Play big if we choose.

Moses
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Smart

Horford
Timelord
 
 Or the all shot blocking team

Moses
Timelord
Tatum
Brown
Smart
 

[Who]

TT needs to be traded. There are not enough minutes to go around to keep all 3 of our bigs happy (Rob Williams, Horford, TT).

Moses Brown is an irrelevancy. He is a 3rd stringer. He doesn't warrant playing time until he proves otherwise.

So I see Horford at around 27-28mpg and Rob Williams at 20-21mpg for the 48mpg. With TT playing when one of the two guys is injured or in foul trouble or both playing poorly. Or Moses Brown doing so if TT is traded.

[Who]

The only reason to have 3 centers all getting regular playing time is because they all suck!

It only happens when the 3 players are so undependable and/or limited in their skill-sets that the coach has to go game-to-game looking for whatever scraps he can out of them.

If we end up playing 3 centers regularly, it will be [dang]ing fact about this group of players.

[KG Living Legend]

The only reason to have 3 centers all getting regular playing time is because they all suck!

It only happens when the 3 players are so undependable and/or limited in their skill-sets that the coach has to go game-to-game looking for whatever scraps he can out of them.

If we end up playing 3 centers regularly, it will be [dang]ing fact about this group of players.

 Who your hilarious.  Your also right.  I want to keep all four until Timelord proves his health.

[CFAN38]

My expectation is that TT gets traded. An argument can be made that R-Will and his pending extension might be the smarter trade chip but I’ll just assume PBS isn’t ready to move him yet.

With Al and R Will as the Cs primary centers I expect a pretty even minutes split. Horford likely starts but both bigs play 20-25 mpg with a little bit of 2big lineups vs appropriate matchups. With Al likely working rest days into the schedule and R Wills injury history I suspect the Cs add a vet to compete with Moses for 3rd center minutes.

My hope is that a TT trade brings in a swing man (via trade or as a FA) capable of beating out Grant for the small ball 5 minutes and that player also takes some time away for Al/R-Will.

[Silas]

Trade TT and split time between Al and Rob.  Moses gets maybe 8-10 min/game of mopup and filling in for injury.

[PAOBoston]

As of right now, Horford probably starts and gets most minutes. Timelord comes off bench. TT gets traded for cap relief/bench help.

Curious to see if Cs dangle Timelord in trade talks to see if they can get bigger impact role players. Don’t think they want to pay Timelord. Maybe they try to sell high and find a taker.

[footey]

Moses should be in G League most of the season to learn how to actually learn how to play defense and to pass.

[footey]

As of right now, Horford probably starts and gets most minutes. Timelord comes off bench. TT gets traded for cap relief/bench help.

Curious to see if Cs dangle Timelord in trade talks to see if they can get bigger impact role players. Don’t think they want to pay Timelord. Maybe they try to sell high and find a taker.

Yeah, absolutely. Let's trade Rob Williams. He stinks. Only 9 blocks of Nets in playoff game.  No use for him on the Celtics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHwvxFkFjiU

[tstorey_97]

Wait a minute! (this is just rehash from when Horford was here last)

Horford doesn't want to "play center."

Last season, Stevens (yes, he isn't the coach anymore) played the Thompson/Theis duo for half the season....right? The triple T frontcourt?

Last season was awful....

Horford/Robert + Thompson off the bench with Brown for scraps.

At least we're not paying Anthony Davis a billion bux to watch the games in street clothes.

[PAOBoston]

As of right now, Horford probably starts and gets most minutes. Timelord comes off bench. TT gets traded for cap relief/bench help.

Curious to see if Cs dangle Timelord in trade talks to see if they can get bigger impact role players. Don’t think they want to pay Timelord. Maybe they try to sell high and find a taker.

Yeah, absolutely. Let's trade Rob Williams. He stinks. Only 9 blocks of Nets in playoff game.  No use for him on the Celtics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHwvxFkFjiU

What did he do in the other games? Oh yeah. He got hurt and didn’t play. Par for the course with this guy. It’s a decision the Cs will need to make. Extend/pay him or let him walk. In 3 years, he’s never shown the ability to play starter minutes or stay healthy. It’s a legitimate question for him. Worst thing possible would be the Cs extending this guy for big money and then he gives them 20 mins a game for 40 games a year.

[RodyTur10]

As of right now, Horford probably starts and gets most minutes. Timelord comes off bench. TT gets traded for cap relief/bench help.

Curious to see if Cs dangle Timelord in trade talks to see if they can get bigger impact role players. Don’t think they want to pay Timelord. Maybe they try to sell high and find a taker.

I do share these injury concerns. I would look out whether either one of Jokic, Embiid, Towns, Ayton, Adebayo, Wood, Capela and Sabonis will be available for trade for Timelord (+ necessary salaryfiller = probably Horford, and pick(s) if necessary). But if noone of them are available for a reasonable price, I would try to negotiate a good deal with Timelord.

On the bright side, with his injury history it's hard for him to be demanding too much. His talent is undeniable. Perhaps a 50/4 type of contract could turn out to be an absolute steal in the future.

[PAOBoston]

As of right now, Horford probably starts and gets most minutes. Timelord comes off bench. TT gets traded for cap relief/bench help.

Curious to see if Cs dangle Timelord in trade talks to see if they can get bigger impact role players. Don’t think they want to pay Timelord. Maybe they try to sell high and find a taker.

I do share these injury concerns. I would look out whether either one of Jokic, Embiid, Towns, Ayton, Adebayo, Wood, Capela and Sabonis will be available for trade for Timelord (+ necessary salaryfiller = probably Horford, and pick(s) if necessary). But if noone of them are available for a reasonable price, I would try to negotiate a good deal with Timelord.

On the bright side, with his injury history it's hard for him to be demanding too much. His talent is undeniable. Perhaps a 50/4 type of contract could turn out to be an absolute steal in the future.

My issue is tying up $12 mil per year in someone who literally won’t play half the season. Cs don’t have much financial flexibility at this point to miss on giving out a bad contract to a guy who won’t give them anything on the court. Between his hip and artery issues, think the Cs should stay away from giving this guy anything tbh.

[gouki88]

We really do have to move Thompson. Wasting MLE money on a 3rd string big would be silly. I honestly think the difference between he and Brown is negligible.

I'd be pretty happy dangling Rob for the right package. He's far too unreliable, and if he demands $10+ million a year I think we should steer clear.

[KG Living Legend]

 I agree should move Thompson eventually.

Seriously though guys if you had to use a two big line-up.  Would it be the obvious answer Al Horford and Bob Williams sharing the court.  I say we keep Kornet so we can use this line-up.

Tacko 7'6"
Moses 7'2"
Kornet  7'2"
Timelord 6'10"
Horford, 6'10"