Just wondering how many feel Kemba is unmovable.

[Celtics2021]

For perspective, Al Horford required a 2020 2nd and 2025 protected 1st to move last offseason, with $69 million in guaranteed salary left on his deal over 2+ years.  Philly also received a useful expiring in Danny Green.

[action781]

As long as the NYK are a team, then no player is unmovable.

[JBcat]

As long as the NYK are a team, then no player is unmovable.

The Knicks are going to have a ton of cap space.  Even with Walker’s contract he would provide an upgrade for them at PG.  Getting a trade exception back could be useful to use down the road, even bigger than the Hayward exception.  Speaking of which I wonder if Stevens will try to use the remaining left of that exception before it expires (sounds weird to say Stevens not Ainge there).

[Rosco917]

It certainly won't be easy. His knees are a red flag. (It's interesting that when he originally got to Boston he had the reputation of seldom missing games.) 

There has to be a playoff team out there, that made an early exit that feels they're one scorer away. 

I would be fine with him being traded for a few serviceable players to bolster our G League bench.

[Celtics2021]

As long as the NYK are a team, then no player is unmovable.

The Knicks are going to have a ton of cap space.  Even with Walker’s contract he would provide an upgrade for them at PG.  Getting a trade exception back could be useful to use down the road, even bigger than the Hayward exception.  Speaking of which I wonder if Stevens will try to use the remaining left of that exception before it expires (sounds weird to say Stevens not Ainge there).

Yep, and the Suns may be looking for a PG if Chris Paul leaves them (which would be really disappointing).

[footey]

For perspective, Al Horford required a 2020 2nd and 2025 protected 1st to move last offseason, with $69 million in guaranteed salary left on his deal over 2+ years.  Philly also received a useful expiring in Danny Green.

Philly also  had to give up Maledon pick and Micic, those are two very good future assets. Micic was recently named Euroleague and  final four MVP.

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2021/06/02/vasilije-micic-euroleague-mvp-final-four-mvp/

[Celtics2021]

For perspective, Al Horford required a 2020 2nd and 2025 protected 1st to move last offseason, with $69 million in guaranteed salary left on his deal over 2+ years.  Philly also received a useful expiring in Danny Green.

Philly also  had to give up Maledon pick and Micic, those are two very good future assets. Micic was recently named Euroleague and  final four MVP.

https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2021/06/02/vasilije-micic-euroleague-mvp-final-four-mvp/

Maledon was the 2020 2nd I referred to.  Micic was drafted in 2014 and is 27 years old.  He’s not much of a future asset.

[gift]

What about something based around Kemba to Dallas, Porzingis to Cleveland, Love to Boston? Extra compensation as needed.

[Rikibellevie]

It certainly won't be easy. His knees are a red flag. (It's interesting that when he originally got to Boston he had the reputation of seldom missing games.) 

There has to be a playoff team out there, that made an early exit that feels they're one scorer away. 

I would be fine with him being traded for a few serviceable players to bolster our G League bench.

Many say we don't have interest to dump his salary in a trade. But what if NYK think he is a viable big 3 with Randle and Barett. Then trade him for Mitchell Robinson and NYK 2022 first RP (protected like J Green picks trade like 10 to 6). Get rid of Thompson and Edwards with 2d picks.
Then with the 20M cap space sign either Lowry or Dragic for a 1 or 2 years rental. Create TPE with Fournier to use it later on Barnes or Grant OR evenBertans (like for 2/3 first + one young buck, saying Pritchard as I prefer Nesmith and Langford potential). Use the rest of TPE(s) and MLE to sign 2 correct supporting cast players (Dunn,Bradley,Ntilikina for G and Olynyk-McGee-WCS for Big)

A team of : Lowry (or Dragic)-Brown-Tatum-Barnes-Timelord   Smart-Bradley-Nesmith-Olynyk-Robinson   Madar-Ntilikina-Langford-Parker-G Will would be a deep team with a lot of defensive materials surounding the jays. And I would even be sad not seeing Brad coaching this team, as I really think for his style of coaching he lacked of material this year, not even counting the injuries and covids.

[PhoSita]

Nobody is unmovable, but I don't think that people will like the return if the Celts do end up trading Kemba.

[Kuberski33]

He can be moved but you weaken the team in the short term - and that I think is likely to happen.
First you need to find a lousy team willing to take on his contract - and OKC may be all tapped out of that market.

[colincb]

KW reportedly has a 15% trade kicker that would jack his salary up to the $40MM range. Also missed 40% of the games.

Doubt you can move him this year. Maybe next year if he's healthy, but if that's true, then why do you move him?

[PhoSita]

KW reportedly has a 15% trade kicker that would jack his salary up to the $40MM range. Also missed 40% of the games.

Doubt you can move him this year. Maybe next year if he's healthy, but if that's true, then why do you move him?

First I'm hearing about the trade kicker.  Where did you see that?


edit -- Looks like the source is Spotrac.


If he really does have a 15% trade kicker then it's even harder to imagine them finding a trade for him.  Pretty much would have to be a swap for another super overpaid player e.g. Westbrook or Wall.

[td450]

It certainly won't be easy. His knees are a red flag. (It's interesting that when he originally got to Boston he had the reputation of seldom missing games.) 

There has to be a playoff team out there, that made an early exit that feels they're one scorer away. 

I would be fine with him being traded for a few serviceable players to bolster our G League bench.

Many say we don't have interest to dump his salary in a trade. But what if NYK think he is a viable big 3 with Randle and Barett. Then trade him for Mitchell Robinson and NYK 2022 first RP (protected like J Green picks trade like 10 to 6). Get rid of Thompson and Edwards with 2d picks.
Then with the 20M cap space sign either Lowry or Dragic for a 1 or 2 years rental. Create TPE with Fournier to use it later on Barnes or Grant OR evenBertans (like for 2/3 first + one young buck, saying Pritchard as I prefer Nesmith and Langford potential). Use the rest of TPE(s) and MLE to sign 2 correct supporting cast players (Dunn,Bradley,Ntilikina for G and Olynyk-McGee-WCS for Big)

A team of : Lowry (or Dragic)-Brown-Tatum-Barnes-Timelord   Smart-Bradley-Nesmith-Olynyk-Robinson   Madar-Ntilikina-Langford-Parker-G Will would be a deep team with a lot of defensive materials surounding the jays. And I would even be sad not seeing Brad coaching this team, as I really think for his style of coaching he lacked of material this year, not even counting the injuries and covids.

Kemba's cap space is a kind of asset. It would be better for Boston to get no player salaries back rather than get someone like Mitchell Robinson. He's worth having, but taking him means the trade creates no TPE, so Kemba's salary couldn't be reused.

If we could just give him to NYK for any draft pick, another huge TPE would be the best outcome. Otherwise, better to take back two or three overpaid players, and deal with them. If you look at a list of all the top NBA salaries, no one swap would appear to do us any good.

[colincb]

KW reportedly has a 15% trade kicker that would jack his salary up to the $40MM range. Also missed 40% of the games.

Doubt you can move him this year. Maybe next year if he's healthy, but if that's true, then why do you move him?

First I'm hearing about the trade kicker.  Where did you see that?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2021/01/nba-players-with-trade-kickers-in-202021.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/nba-players-with-trade-kickers-in-2020-21/ar-BB1cGFEw

Upon further research, it turns out that Cs would pay it and spread it over two years for cap purposes. So it wouldn't impede a deal, but it would be a decent size dead money hit.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/12/hoops-rumors-glossary-trade-kickers.html