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I feel like everyone is over reacting including me!
« on: June 02, 2021, 01:02:25 AM »

Offline liam

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Ainge has a lot of work to do to build a solid bench where everyone on it can play but I don't think this team needs to be blown up. We need some tweaks and some good vets off the bench but our top two of Tatum and Brown are stars which should be the hardest part of team building. This year was a disaster in so many ways but next year could be as light as this year was dark!

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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2021, 01:05:47 AM »

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100% with you, including the "including me" part. But not you me; me me.

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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2021, 01:08:18 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2021, 01:12:20 AM »

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Ainge has a lot of work to do to build a solid bench where everyone on it can play but I don't think this team needs to be blown up. We need some tweaks and some good vets off the bench but our top two of Tatum and Brown are stars which should be the hardest part of team building. This year was a disaster in so many ways but next year could be as light as this year was dark!

We can definitely build around Tatum and Brown, they're just entering the prime of their careers. Timelord as well though we need insurance for him given his injury history. Kemba we can shop to see what return we get for him. There's only so many points for a No3 if JT and JB are scoring 25+ each but Kemba's efficiency has gone down from his Charlotte days. I feel like the lower usage he has in Boston has something to do with it, he's a rhythm player and I think if he doesn't get enough touches he starts to lose his rhythm. But I doubt we will be able to move him without ending up giving away a lot. I honestly can't think of a team who would be willing to take Kemba at a reasonable price.

Smartacus we should also shop but he's a good 4th/5th option, when he can focus on defense and shooting open 3s off the catch rather than having to feel like he's the No2 option (which he was in these playoffs). I would like to see Fournier back depending on the cost, we do have his Bird rights but we have to be careful we don't get hard capped. Nesmith, Langford, Pritchard, they showed enough that I think they could be persevered with, though they probably need a bit more seasoning instead of being thrown into major roles like they were this season. That's really been our problem this season, injuries and absences forcing players to fill roles a pay grade higher than that they otherwise would have filled (e.g. Smart becoming a 2nd/3rd option, Gwill or the Green Kornet being the first big off the bench, Semi being in the top 8, etc). They just haven't been able to meet the elevated standards expected of them in those roles, but they would be fine in lesser ones.

I think everyone else is fair game. As for management and coaching, I don't think Danny and Brad are going anywhere, no matter what people wish.
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This team needs a new direction or philosophy on offense, and Brad Stevens is NOT the answer to it.

Next, it's time to unload 1 for 10 from 3-point Marcus Smart. Trade Kemba $141M max money Walker who put up only 12.7 ppg in the playoffs this year including two absent games. Move away from Grant Will, Semi Ojeleye, Carsen Edwards all those useless guys who should not belong in an NBA roster.


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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2021, 01:16:35 AM »

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This team needs a new direction or philosophy on offense, and Brad Stevens is NOT the answer to it.

Next, it's time to unload 1 for 10 from 3-point Marcus Smart. Trade Kemba $141M max money Walker who put up only 12.7 ppg in the playoffs this year including two absent games. Move away from Grant Will, Semi Ojeleye, Carsen Edwards all those useless guys who should not belong in an NBA roster.

We need an action plan to do this Sparz! How would you go about it? Who would you replace Brad with and how would you complete those moves (getting rid of Kemba, Smart and all the riffraff)?
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2021, 01:17:30 AM »

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100% with you, including the "including me" part. But not you me; me me.

It's always about you!!!

 ;)

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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2021, 01:18:40 AM »

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QQ Liam...don’t forget the DNPs for all your binkies...

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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2021, 01:19:53 AM »

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QQ Liam...don’t forget the DNPs for all your binkies...

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What happened to BANE!!!

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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2021, 01:21:45 AM »

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QQ Liam...don’t forget the DNPs for all your binkies...

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What happened to BANE!!!


BBBBBBAAAAAAAAANNNNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

If we sign some solid vets I'll let the Bane thing die....  :-[

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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2021, 01:22:53 AM »

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QQ Liam...don’t forget the DNPs for all your binkies...

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What happened to BANE!!!


BBBBBBAAAAAAAAANNNNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

If we sign some solid vets I'll let the Bane thing die....  :-[

If you had a billion dollars what would you do?

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2021, 01:25:52 AM »

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QQ Liam...don’t forget the DNPs for all your binkies...

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What happened to BANE!!!


BBBBBBAAAAAAAAANNNNNEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

If we sign some solid vets I'll let the Bane thing die....  :-[

If you had a billion dollars what would you do?

Buy a 10th share of the Celtics and cry poor mouth about going over the tax!

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We don't need to blow our team up. We just need someone who can tap into the quality this team has (our team is not made up of prospects with potential who have declined/busted and/or has-beens who are potentially washed like Tottenham in football, we have stars who're producing right now) while continuing to round out the rotation with quality role players.
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There are definitely positive things to see in this Celtics team. However I really question the ability of Stevens to create a strong offensive system. And there are personnel issues as well.

When you look at the advanced stats for this series, there's one truly remarkably bad:

the duo Walker/Thompson in 53 minutes of playing together, NET RATING: -64  (86 OR/150 DR)

Neither of them can be a starter next season if we want to make a strong comeback.

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2021, 10:37:52 AM »

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Ainge has a lot of work to do to build a solid bench where everyone on it can play but I don't think this team needs to be blown up. We need some tweaks and some good vets off the bench but our top two of Tatum and Brown are stars which should be the hardest part of team building. This year was a disaster in so many ways but next year could be as light as this year was dark!

We can definitely build around Tatum and Brown, they're just entering the prime of their careers. Timelord as well though we need insurance for him given his injury history. Kemba we can shop to see what return we get for him. There's only so many points for a No3 if JT and JB are scoring 25+ each but Kemba's efficiency has gone down from his Charlotte days. I feel like the lower usage he has in Boston has something to do with it, he's a rhythm player and I think if he doesn't get enough touches he starts to lose his rhythm. But I doubt we will be able to move him without ending up giving away a lot. I honestly can't think of a team who would be willing to take Kemba at a reasonable price.

Smartacus we should also shop but he's a good 4th/5th option, when he can focus on defense and shooting open 3s off the catch rather than having to feel like he's the No2 option (which he was in these playoffs). I would like to see Fournier back depending on the cost, we do have his Bird rights but we have to be careful we don't get hard capped. Nesmith, Langford, Pritchard, they showed enough that I think they could be persevered with, though they probably need a bit more seasoning instead of being thrown into major roles like they were this season. That's really been our problem this season, injuries and absences forcing players to fill roles a pay grade higher than that they otherwise would have filled (e.g. Smart becoming a 2nd/3rd option, Gwill or the Green Kornet being the first big off the bench, Semi being in the top 8, etc). They just haven't been able to meet the elevated standards expected of them in those roles, but they would be fine in lesser ones.

I think everyone else is fair game. As for management and coaching, I don't think Danny and Brad are going anywhere, no matter what people wish.


Was I ever wrong or what!! Looks like people did get what they want.  :police:
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