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Trade Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?

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Why bother...
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Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2021, 03:20:21 AM »

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Like I have said earlier, if the Knicks can’t attract a major free agent, a Kemba salary dump to the Knicks for a future protected first round pick is the best we can get. Looking at the Knicks matchup against the Hawks they are missing scoring with a secondary playmaker and that is Kemba Walker. He’s a New Yorker so the fans will love that.

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FA or pick
RJ Barrett
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I feel like the idea of a New York salary dump could also be harnessed into a potential three way trade. We might have to give up more draft capital, but if we can secure some good role players I'm all for it
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2021, 03:38:01 AM »

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All the RS we tryed to protect Kemba knee, loosing some BB to games clearly... And finally he gets hurt himself again at the begening of eason. What an horrible season. I believed he found again some value at the end of the year, especially if he could do a good serie ag Brooks.
For now I think he is a negative value, and there is still a chance that he has got a healthier year next year. So, even if I am sad of it and really think we should trade him, even ag aa less talented PG or deepth, I think we even can't have that this summer. Porzingis... No thank you, don't want to take another MAX year of another always injured guy...

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2021, 03:44:10 AM »

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I posted the framework to a deal involving KP and Kemba earlier in the season, but I've adjusted it since then.

Boston sends: Kemba Walker
Boston receives: Derrick White, Jakob Poeltl

San Antonio sends: Jakob Poeltl, Derrick White
San Antonio receives: Kristaps Porzingis

Dallas sends: Kristaps Porzingis
Dallas receives: Kemba Walker

Throw in whatever picks and prospects necessary, but that could be an avenue to consider in the fantasy-land where we move Kemba. 
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2021, 04:13:54 AM »

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I'd rather send him to Houston for John Wall who wants out.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2021, 04:32:53 AM »

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I'd rather send him to Houston for John Wall who wants out.
John Wall is still contracted for two years at an average annual value of $45.8m, and was arguably worse than Kemba on both ends (definitely was on defence). Not sure he's the answer
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2021, 05:17:13 AM »

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I'd rather send him to Houston for John Wall who wants out.
John Wall is still contracted for two years at an average annual value of $45.8m, and was arguably worse than Kemba on both ends (definitely was on defence). Not sure he's the answer

Personnaly I think his game is more complementary with the Jays and with our team than Walker is. Penetration and real playmaking is what we need. I don't think if in our team he would be worst defensively than Kemba, I think it would be about the same. And we must not forget he just came back from a very long injury and wasn't bad at all after all this years off. The problem is his salary, to match for the trade and for the luxuary tax next year and the ability to resign Williams (if he can stay healthy) and Smart, or use TPE for Fournier.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2021, 05:32:25 AM »

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Is this real? Dallas probably say no to Brunson alone. Let alone with Zinger in there...

"Gimme the ball, gimme the ball". Freddy Quimby, 1994.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2021, 07:09:45 AM »

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I'd rather send him to Houston for John Wall who wants out.
John Wall is still contracted for two years at an average annual value of $45.8m, and was arguably worse than Kemba on both ends (definitely was on defence). Not sure he's the answer

Personnaly I think his game is more complementary with the Jays and with our team than Walker is. Penetration and real playmaking is what we need. I don't think if in our team he would be worst defensively than Kemba, I think it would be about the same. And we must not forget he just came back from a very long injury and wasn't bad at all after all this years off. The problem is his salary, to match for the trade and for the luxuary tax next year and the ability to resign Williams (if he can stay healthy) and Smart, or use TPE for Fournier.

Huge contract aside, I don’t remember how Wall played this year but I remember the biggest criticism to his game is that he can’t shoot. Otherwise, he’s a big guard with terrific vision, terrific defense and attacks the paint relentlessly. Can he be effective on offense though without the ball in his hands?

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Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2021, 07:27:28 AM »

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The Kemba catastrophists are out in full-force in this thread. Kemba was out last night because of a bone bruise, not because his knee is quickly degenerating. By all measures, the stem cell injections worked and Kemba proved to have a fine year once he worked his way back early in the year.

Also, I am quite certain we are not going to give up assets to rid ourselves of Kemba. It would need to be an incredible opportunity requiring us to clear salary. Imo, anything we get for Kemba is going to be considerably worse than just rolling with him. I am a fan of what Kemba brings on and off the court and he still has a 'gravity' to him that so many other players just don't have.

I think the Cs definitely pull the trigger on this trade proposal, but just because it leans so heavily in the Cs favor. They may even do a 1-for-1 swap with KP, but not sure the Mavs would want Kemba if they are keeping Brunson.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2021, 07:34:45 AM »

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I'd rather send him to Houston for John Wall who wants out.
John Wall is still contracted for two years at an average annual value of $45.8m, and was arguably worse than Kemba on both ends (definitely was on defence). Not sure he's the answer

Personnaly I think his game is more complementary with the Jays and with our team than Walker is. Penetration and real playmaking is what we need. I don't think if in our team he would be worst defensively than Kemba, I think it would be about the same. And we must not forget he just came back from a very long injury and wasn't bad at all after all this years off. The problem is his salary, to match for the trade and for the luxuary tax next year and the ability to resign Williams (if he can stay healthy) and Smart, or use TPE for Fournier.

Huge contract aside, I don’t remember how Wall played this year but I remember the biggest criticism to his game is that he can’t shoot. Otherwise, he’s a big guard with terrific vision, terrific defense and attacks the paint relentlessly. Can he be effective on offense though without the ball in his hands?
He doesn’t play even average defence anymore, and is less efficient than Kemba. His passing and dribble-penetration would be very welcome, but his weaknesses are even more significant
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2021, 08:02:09 AM »

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I’d do the trade, but Dallas won’t.
Brunson is better than Kemba.  Everyone paying attention can see that.

We’d have to sweeten the trade, and even so, not sure the Mavs would do it. Brunson is going to get paid, by Dallas or someone else.  He is too good and getting exposure.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2021, 08:04:33 AM »

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I'd rather send him to Houston for John Wall who wants out.

Now, that might work.  Both past their prime (Kemba more so) and both unavailable for parts of the season.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2021, 08:06:16 AM »

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No one gotta trade for Kemba
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2021, 08:08:27 AM »

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On the fence to be honest.

Not against moving Kemba to improve the team, but Porzingis has had major injury issues and I'm not sure trading for him makes the Celtics any better then they are with Kemba. 

I'm not crazy about it, but don't hate it either.  Kinda *meh* about it.

You do this trade to acquire Brunson.  Porzinguis is gravy.

Re: Zinger and Brunson for Kemba?
« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2021, 08:24:29 AM »

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I think Luke Korbet is a better defender and rebounder than Zinger.