Time for a New Coach

[SHAQATTACK]

I don’t think you win a title without a coach who embraces the stars like they want and maybe same for the organization.

I like old school building of team ,  but it may not work anymore like in the Tommy and Red eras Players are controlling the movements and if DA and CBS are scared to take chances on the big stars ,  even if it means one season then I don’t see progress as forth coming . 

I think the nba has problem and needs to work to put power back in the GMs or else just have CA teams play NY teams and forget the rest .....the rest are just training camps for the states of CA And NY

[Tr1boy]

I think Ainge needs to build a real bench next year and if Brad can’t put the team in contention, then I’d say it’s time to move on. This inexperienced bench that Ainge has built has been a huge disaster the last two years.

Langford, Nesmith, Parker, Thompson/TL, Pritchard, Yam (hopefully quick impact)

Should be more than enough to constitute a real bench

What the Celts need is a legit stretch big and new guards to start with Jays imo
 

[Kuberski33]

I don’t think you win a title without a coach who embraces the stars like they want and maybe same for the organization.

I like old school building of team ,  but it may not work anymore like in the Tommy and Red eras Players are controlling the movements and if DA and CBS are scared to take chances on the big stars ,  even if it means one season then I don’t see progress as forth coming . 

I think the nba has problem and needs to work to put power back in the GMs or else just have CA teams play NY teams and forget the rest .....the rest are just training camps for the states of CA And NY

I'm becoming less and less a fan of this league and the NBA product by the day. The players even control the media. There's no one left who dares call out these guys - even when they deserve to be called out.  You are 100% right about DA and Brad. 
But if someone with a more hard nosed appreach came in the players might be 'hurt' by it - and not want to play hard - kind of like the Celtics apparently didn't feel like competing in about 50% of their games this season. 

[Kiorrik]

I don't believe a new coach will solve the issues this team has.

I just want an enforcer in the middle and we'll easily be able to hang with the big ones.

People underestimate what Perk brought past numbers. Even without a Garnett type.

TT is our enforcer at the moment, and he's enforcer 'light'. He plays his bloody heart out though. Love the guy.

Also, "time for a new coach" -> like there's more talented coaches than Brad that are just queued up ready to go. Doubt that very much.

I also don't believe changing personnel actually improves a situation. I'd rather see our current crew (yes, the entire cast) make some adjustments and get better, rather than just firing and hiring.

Mostly because in my own life I've seen more success in organisations promoting change. Give these guys some time to percolate. Get better over time.

[LilRip]

Voted Yes and it isn’t because of this Nets series.

CBS is a brilliant tactician and seems to be at his best in getting the most out of alleged busts and limited players, but I’m not convinced he can win over or get the buy-in of established players. I don’t know if he has the... idk... charm or cache or “x factor” the way some other coaches do.

For example, how would CBS be like on the Nets? He’d probably advocate ball movement too (like Nash) but it wouldn’t be crazy if he rubbed the egos of his stars like KD and Kyrie the wrong way. I don’t think he’s this “nice guy” we’re all projecting him to be. I think he’s a pretty disciplined, no-BS, hardworking kinda guy. I don’t think he’s a pushover at all and I don’t think he’s the type of coach who will blink first if you test him. Cool, calm, confident, unwavering. These are words I’d use to describe CBS.

Role players will love him because he will always encourage them to take the open shot, regardless of who they are or where they are in the pecking order. In the same vein, stars might not necessarily see eye to eye with him on his equal opportunity approach.

[Celtics4ever]

Coaching has not been our problem for this series though CBS has made some errors we all can see.

This Nets team when it is firing on all cylinders is just as good as the PP, KG and Ray Allen  in 2008.  All they have to do is slow down Tatum to win.   Kemba is a no show and Brown is hurt.  Timelord is out and there is a big talent differential in the two teams.

The talent thing is on Ainge.  Our guys could go out there and play as hard as they can and still would not win a series because of the talent difference.

[Rikibellevie]

I think Ainge needs to build a real bench next year and if Brad can’t put the team in contention, then I’d say it’s time to move on. This inexperienced bench that Ainge has built has been a huge disaster the last two years.

Langford, Nesmith, Parker, Thompson/TL, Pritchard, Yam (hopefully quick impact)

Should be more than enough to constitute a real bench

What the Celts need is a legit stretch big and new guards to start with Jays imo

No that's not a "more than enough" real bench on my opinion : Timelord has the potential to be the best sub Center, but is always hurt, Nesmith has potential but is still raw and probably will still be inconstent, Langford is a good defensive bench player but an almost zero offensive player at this stage, Pritchard has hit hardly the rookie wall and we may have some interrogation about his PO abilities.... Parker will be a usefull bench player I guess and his price his good, but still a guy who was injured and left by many teams. If we resign Fournier, he would be the only lock as a good bench player.... But overpaying him at 20M+ (like I say sonce a long time) may not be the right decision.

So on my priority order :
1 find depth with good and cheap VET signings (1 or 2 players but the leaders of the bench)
2 find an helathier and more creative/defensive PG
3 Find a stetch big (TT is not the reason our fail for me, he is inconstant, lack of talent but is OK esp if Timelord come strong of the bench)


And for CBS, it is not what happened yesterday that may change anybodys mind. OK on second quarter he made strange choices, but whatever it was an impossible win, until a miracle happened. Maybe he wanted to see if one of this guy was hot, to give him a chance to play the Romeo lite in G3... If at next midseason we are 60% or less then bye bye if there is a viable other option for coaching.

[Birdman]

I blame Ainge..he assembled this team..having the worst bench in NBA is not acceptable and no center

[footey]

If Ainge had traded for Harden, would we be having this conversation? Not saying he should have. But would we? Would we be down 3-1? Or up 3–1 right now?

Point is, personnel decisions have far greater impact than coaching.

[Walker Wiggle]

A 7th seed missing its 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best player lost to a team with 3 of the top 10 players in the league. My friends, there’s not much more to analyze.

[Moranis]

This roster isn't ready to compete, so what's the point? Playing musical chairs with coaches isn't going to transform our team into a contender.

I'm not sure honestly. 

This roster is better then people give it credit for. 

* We have three all-star calibre players (Tatum, Brown and Kemba) - at least one of those guys is on the borderline of true superstar status. 
* We have three role players who are exceptionally good at their role in Fournier (scoring), Thompson (rebounding) and Smart (defence)
* We have two solid prospects who have shown a great deal of promise (Rob Williams and Payton Pritchard)
 
It's actually a pretty good roster on paper.  The roster is either good enough to contend, or else it's pretty [dang] close to it.  And many of the players on that roster are far from reaching their prime, meaning the roster (in its current form) can only get better.

Now granted, we didn't have Fournier or Parker most the year, and our top 3 guys (Brown, Tatum and Kemba) have all missed significant games to injury or Covid.  It does need to be acknowledged that this plays a significant part. 

Rob Williams also didn't really start to emerge until later in the year, and he also missed quite a few games.  Normally I'd say all of this offers a good explanation for a team struggling...but in this case I don't.  The reason I don't is because of WHO they struggled against.  This team lost to a LOT of really bad teams, in many cases it was by way of blowouts. I don't believe those opponents had more talent on the floor then the Celtics with their depleted rosters, so I find it difficult to blame talent or health. 

If they beat the bad treams and lost to good teams, different story.  When you get blown out by 20+ by a bottom 5 team that's NOT a talent problem.  That seemed ot happen far to often for Boston this year .

And this is the problem with the team, unrealistic fan expectations not rooted in reality.  Boston has a good team and Boston had a good season.  Boston does not have a great or elite team and shouldn't be expected to have a great or elite season.  Boston, quite simply, is no where near contender status because the roster is no where near good enough to be near contender status.  Until the fanbase really comes to that conclusion, you are left with posts like this and threads like this, that have no semblance of reality. 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Kemba is only an All Star caliber player in October vs the Orlando Magics of the world.  No coach is going to change the fact that he's fool's gold and our roster is not as good as a team with three healthy first ballot Hall of Famers.  The fact we even won one game is stunning.  If Kemba were actually good we could trade him.  No team except maybe the Knicks is that stupid.

[Rosco917]

Get the Nets and take away 3 of their top stars and have them play any fully healthy playoff team in the NBA. And the Nets coach will ultimately look terrible.

The Celtics have one of the worst benches in the league...subtract 2 of the three starters and what remains is G League.

[BringToughnessBack]

Did not know the title of magician is needed to be a coach in the NBA in this day and age. If Nash coached the Celtics we would still be down 3 games to one and maybe even swept.

We are facing 3 top 10 players in the NBA and 2 of the Top 5 players and wondering why Tatum, Smart and scraps cannot be more competitive. Their big 3 are absolutely ridiculous right now and we need players like our injured Brown to play D vs one of them to help.

To say we are undermanned right now would be the understatement of the year. Tatum is great but lets be real here. The refs plus a big 3 equals zero chance at winning back to back vs this Nets team.

How about we give Brad a healthy team and average bench for starters. There are almost no coaches out there that I believe would be better for our young team.

[Banner18now!]

I agree with you Brad’s time is up. What convinced me was a few years ago when he had a stacked roster and couldn’t make it work.
Irving, Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Horford, Smart, Rozier, Morris, Thies and Baynes. I don’t think the Celtics will ever have a better roster than that while Stevens is here. The team completely underachieved as we know. Yea Kyrie is a complete Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. but so are a lot of other NBA superstars that Brad would have to coach. He can’t handle NBA players egos for some reason. He belongs in college. After that season every player left at their first opportunity. Irving, Horford and Hayward. Hayward is surprising since he is supposed to have a great relationship with Brad.