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Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #450 on: May 25, 2021, 10:03:02 PM »

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tatum and brad are soft. it shouldn’t be a surprise that the c’s are soft.

This.

The boys need a stronger voice and character from the coach. The character of this team is a direct representation from the coaching. They're soft and have been allowed to develop bad habits all year because Brad does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

Hate ever agreeing with Perk, but he's right that the team needs a different voice. Of course it won't happen because Danny is just as much to blame with holding onto and overvaluing his guys too much - including the coach.

Doc got fired for only making it to the second round. Brad clearly gets a pass this year but one more year of this and he's gone. Maybe Danny too! The team is a mess of projects. Look how well oiled The Grizz look.


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Naw, tired of the excuses and "passes".

He's reached his limit with this team in particular and has made it clear that he doesn't connect with them at all, and it's fairly clear that his overall character and personality are not a great fit with our young stars.

And, sure, we got to several conference finals with him at the helm, but he's failed to get us past that point when at least two of those were definitely winnable series that we should've won (2018 and 2020).
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Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #451 on: May 25, 2021, 10:04:52 PM »

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Brown is seriously missed.

To me he is like the captain of the team

Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #452 on: May 25, 2021, 10:05:54 PM »

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tatum and brad are soft. it shouldn’t be a surprise that the c’s are soft.

This.

The boys need a stronger voice and character from the coach. The character of this team is a direct representation from the coaching. They're soft and have been allowed to develop bad habits all year because Brad does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

Hate ever agreeing with Perk, but he's right that the team needs a different voice. Of course it won't happen because Danny is just as much to blame with holding onto and overvaluing his guys too much - including the coach.

Doc got fired for only making it to the second round. Brad clearly gets a pass this year but one more year of this and he's gone. Maybe Danny too! The team is a mess of projects. Look how well oiled The Grizz look.


BBBAAANNNEEE!!!

Naw, tired of the excuses and "passes".

He's reached his limit with this team in particular and has made it clear that he doesn't connect with them at all, and it's fairly clear that his overall character and personality are not a great fit with our young stars.

And, sure, we got to several conference finals with him at the helm, but he's failed to get us past that point when at least two of those were definitely winnable series that we should've won (2018 and 2020).
I'm pretty exasperated with Brad, but given how long his extension is and how disjointed our team was injury and COVID-wise this year I'd be surprised if he moved on. Actually, I'd be floored.

But if we disappoint next season and we're healthy then Ainge will definitely be pressured to move him on.
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Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #453 on: May 25, 2021, 10:06:03 PM »

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... because Brad (nor anyone on the coaching staff for that matter) does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

This starts at the top. Etc is in love with complacency in terms of coaching (CBS), player development (Ainge) and players. Honestly, I can’t continue to watch this team if a major personnel change doesn’t happen. I’m that far removed and that p---ed off how we have been so futile for so [dang] long. And spare me the 3 conference finals, everyone gets a trophy BS. None of those teams had a glimmer of a chance to win.
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Yeah, more and more I've come to be disillusioned just as much with Danny. As the GM, he's allowing this to happen just as much as Brad.

And his bench building is inexcusable. How many years do we have to lose games/series based upon our lack of depth and bench because he fills them up with cheap rookies and young guys instead of prioritizing vet help?
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Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #454 on: May 25, 2021, 10:06:08 PM »

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tatum and brad are soft. it shouldn’t be a surprise that the c’s are soft.

This.

The boys need a stronger voice and character from the coach. The character of this team is a direct representation from the coaching. They're soft and have been allowed to develop bad habits all year because Brad does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

Hate ever agreeing with Perk, but he's right that the team needs a different voice. Of course it won't happen because Danny is just as much to blame with holding onto and overvaluing his guys too much - including the coach.

Doc got fired for only making it to the second round. Brad clearly gets a pass this year but one more year of this and he's gone. Maybe Danny too! The team is a mess of projects. Look how well oiled The Grizz look.


BBBAAANNNEEE!!!

Naw, tired of the excuses and "passes".

He's reached his limit with this team in particular and has made it clear that he doesn't connect with them at all, and it's fairly clear that his overall character and personality are not a great fit with our young stars.

And, sure, we got to several conference finals with him at the helm, but he's failed to get us past that point when at least two of those were definitely winnable series that we should've won (2018 and 2020).

I agree but management is giving him a pass. I look at what Thibs did with the knicks and I think it's amazing. Randle wasn't very good before Thibs.

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« Reply #455 on: May 25, 2021, 10:06:31 PM »

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Why is Massachusetts slower than NY to open up capacity? Game 3 only allowing 5000 fans? That’s crazy. Our only hope was to get crowd behind us. Guess we have to wait until we’re down 3-0. Nice job, governor.

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« Reply #456 on: May 25, 2021, 10:07:01 PM »

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Love Danny. But this is on him. He’s been at the helm close to 20 years. Wyc needs to take action.

Nets are really good. But we played with no heart, except Smart and Thompson. The others were just going through the motions.

Add Fournier to that list. That’s about it, though.
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« Reply #457 on: May 25, 2021, 10:07:17 PM »

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Perk talking about Tillman

Danny why??

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« Reply #458 on: May 25, 2021, 10:08:56 PM »

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Perk talking about Tillman

Danny why??

My Bane thread wouldn't even exist if we took Tillman with that pick.

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« Reply #459 on: May 25, 2021, 10:10:08 PM »

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Why is Massachusetts slower than NY to open up capacity? Game 3 only allowing 5000 fans? That’s crazy. Our only hope was to get crowd behind us. Guess we have to wait until we’re down 3-0. Nice job, governor.


5,000 Celtics fans are worth more than all of Brooklyn.

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« Reply #460 on: May 25, 2021, 10:11:18 PM »

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Danny Ainge made a mistake bypassing Tillman. 

I like Nesmith but Saddiq Bey is a better shooter. Would have helped

Last season should have did whatever to draft Herro

Imagine if Celts roster had

Tillman, Herro, Bey, Bane (Liam binkie)

Legit shooters and another tough defensive anchor


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« Reply #461 on: May 25, 2021, 10:14:58 PM »

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tatum and brad are soft. it shouldn’t be a surprise that the c’s are soft.

This.

The boys need a stronger voice and character from the coach. The character of this team is a direct representation from the coaching. They're soft and have been allowed to develop bad habits all year because Brad does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

Hate ever agreeing with Perk, but he's right that the team needs a different voice. Of course it won't happen because Danny is just as much to blame with holding onto and overvaluing his guys too much - including the coach.

Doc got fired for only making it to the second round. Brad clearly gets a pass this year but one more year of this and he's gone. Maybe Danny too! The team is a mess of projects. Look how well oiled The Grizz look.


BBBAAANNNEEE!!!

Naw, tired of the excuses and "passes".

He's reached his limit with this team in particular and has made it clear that he doesn't connect with them at all, and it's fairly clear that his overall character and personality are not a great fit with our young stars.

And, sure, we got to several conference finals with him at the helm, but he's failed to get us past that point when at least two of those were definitely winnable series that we should've won (2018 and 2020).
I'm pretty exasperated with Brad, but given how long his extension is and how disjointed our team was injury and COVID-wise this year I'd be surprised if he moved on. Actually, I'd be floored.

But if we disappoint next season and we're healthy then Ainge will definitely be pressured to move him on.

if nash can get three of the biggest egos/ball hogs to buy in and focus on offensive ball movement, then why can’t brad? even the c’s scrubs move the ball 10x better than the starters, which proves it isn’t the system but lack of respect for brad’s leadership.

Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #462 on: May 25, 2021, 10:17:32 PM »

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tatum and brad are soft. it shouldn’t be a surprise that the c’s are soft.

This.

The boys need a stronger voice and character from the coach. The character of this team is a direct representation from the coaching. They're soft and have been allowed to develop bad habits all year because Brad does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

Hate ever agreeing with Perk, but he's right that the team needs a different voice. Of course it won't happen because Danny is just as much to blame with holding onto and overvaluing his guys too much - including the coach.

Doc got fired for only making it to the second round. Brad clearly gets a pass this year but one more year of this and he's gone. Maybe Danny too! The team is a mess of projects. Look how well oiled The Grizz look.


BBBAAANNNEEE!!!

Naw, tired of the excuses and "passes".

He's reached his limit with this team in particular and has made it clear that he doesn't connect with them at all, and it's fairly clear that his overall character and personality are not a great fit with our young stars.

And, sure, we got to several conference finals with him at the helm, but he's failed to get us past that point when at least two of those were definitely winnable series that we should've won (2018 and 2020).
I'm pretty exasperated with Brad, but given how long his extension is and how disjointed our team was injury and COVID-wise this year I'd be surprised if he moved on. Actually, I'd be floored.

But if we disappoint next season and we're healthy then Ainge will definitely be pressured to move him on.

Oh, I unfortunately agree. Can't see him being moved this year, which I think is a detriment to the team and just wastes another year of the J's prime.
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Re: Celtics (0-1) at Nets (1-0) Round 1 Game 2 5/25/21
« Reply #463 on: May 25, 2021, 10:20:09 PM »

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Brad sounds depressed/broken record

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« Reply #464 on: May 25, 2021, 10:21:53 PM »

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tatum and brad are soft. it shouldn’t be a surprise that the c’s are soft.

This.

The boys need a stronger voice and character from the coach. The character of this team is a direct representation from the coaching. They're soft and have been allowed to develop bad habits all year because Brad does not instill any sort of discipline or accountability in these guys.

Hate ever agreeing with Perk, but he's right that the team needs a different voice. Of course it won't happen because Danny is just as much to blame with holding onto and overvaluing his guys too much - including the coach.

Doc got fired for only making it to the second round. Brad clearly gets a pass this year but one more year of this and he's gone. Maybe Danny too! The team is a mess of projects. Look how well oiled The Grizz look.


BBBAAANNNEEE!!!

Naw, tired of the excuses and "passes".

He's reached his limit with this team in particular and has made it clear that he doesn't connect with them at all, and it's fairly clear that his overall character and personality are not a great fit with our young stars.

And, sure, we got to several conference finals with him at the helm, but he's failed to get us past that point when at least two of those were definitely winnable series that we should've won (2018 and 2020).
I'm pretty exasperated with Brad, but given how long his extension is and how disjointed our team was injury and COVID-wise this year I'd be surprised if he moved on. Actually, I'd be floored.

But if we disappoint next season and we're healthy then Ainge will definitely be pressured to move him on.

if nash can get three of the biggest egos/ball hogs to buy in and focus on offensive ball movement, then why can’t brad? even the c’s scrubs move the ball 10x better than the starters, which proves it isn’t the system but lack of respect for brad’s leadership.

Steve seems to have a similar demeanor to Brad. The Nets front office did a great job surrounding Nash with assistant coaches(D’antoni, Vaughn, Udoka) that would help keep the players in check and focused. Smart move by them.
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