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Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2021, 10:22:07 AM »

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Although I’d say there would be a stipulation in the sale contract that keeps the Timberwolves in Minnesota, I’d actually love them to move the team then when the NBA finally expands, KG could finally own the Timberwolves...something obviously that means a lot to him.
Does it? 

"Kevin never contacted me at all saying that he was interested," Taylor said, via The Athletic. "Nor was his name listed on any of the buying groups that asked for financial information to review.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/kevin-garnett-wont-be-purchasing-the-timberwolves-after-all/ar-BB1eg6KD?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2021, 11:28:16 AM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2021, 11:52:38 AM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

Disagree

How many top 3-5 picks type talent do you need in a roster??

At some point its considered "dysfunction"

Need to trade out a core. Or trade for a vet like a Butler

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2021, 12:12:14 PM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

Disagree

How many top 3-5 picks type talent do you need in a roster??

At some point its considered "dysfunction"

Need to trade out a core. Or trade for a vet like a Butler

In my book, as many as you can get.  Then you use them either as core roster pieces or as trade assets.  I don't see any scenario where it is a bad thing.  If it gets to a point where you feel you need more of a vet to go to the next level, fine, trade some of the assets.  Maybe they want Kemba?  They should give Danny a call.

I think they are going to be in a vey good place after this draft.

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2021, 12:23:16 PM »

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I guess Varitek needs to get involved with the C's so this pic wil never get old.

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Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2021, 12:26:16 PM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

Disagree

How many top 3-5 picks type talent do you need in a roster??

At some point its considered "dysfunction"

Need to trade out a core. Or trade for a vet like a Butler

In my book, as many as you can get.  Then you use them either as core roster pieces or as trade assets.  I don't see any scenario where it is a bad thing.  If it gets to a point where you feel you need more of a vet to go to the next level, fine, trade some of the assets.  Maybe they want Kemba?  They should give Danny a call.

I think they are going to be in a vey good place after this draft.

At this point, Its better to trade it before the prospect loses value

Less touches, less points, cater to the other core players

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2021, 07:45:56 AM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

Disagree

How many top 3-5 picks type talent do you need in a roster??

At some point its considered "dysfunction"

Need to trade out a core. Or trade for a vet like a Butler

In my book, as many as you can get.  Then you use them either as core roster pieces or as trade assets.  I don't see any scenario where it is a bad thing.  If it gets to a point where you feel you need more of a vet to go to the next level, fine, trade some of the assets.  Maybe they want Kemba?  They should give Danny a call.

I think they are going to be in a vey good place after this draft.

At this point, Its better to trade it before the prospect loses value

Less touches, less points, cater to the other core players

Maybe, that can happen with draft picks but it didn't happen with Towns or Edwards so it is not necessarily going to happen with this pick.  I suspect they will explore trades for the pick but as I assess the team, do they really know what they have and what key piece they need to add?  If you don't know how your team fits together as it is, how do you know that the player you trade for is going to fit any better than the  player you could draft?  At this point in the draft (assumed top 3), I would take the best player available and sort it out next season when hopefully all the core players are healthy.

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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2021, 08:04:06 AM »

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Interesting mock NBA trade:

Wolves: Get their 2021/22 pick, Wiggins, Wiseman, 2021 Warriors pick

Warriors: Towns, Layman
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Career highlight: 1973-74 championship, Boston Celtics

Career lowlight: traded for a washing machine

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2021, 08:17:35 AM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

Disagree

How many top 3-5 picks type talent do you need in a roster??

At some point its considered "dysfunction"

Need to trade out a core. Or trade for a vet like a Butler

In my book, as many as you can get.  Then you use them either as core roster pieces or as trade assets.  I don't see any scenario where it is a bad thing.  If it gets to a point where you feel you need more of a vet to go to the next level, fine, trade some of the assets.  Maybe they want Kemba?  They should give Danny a call.

I think they are going to be in a vey good place after this draft.

At this point, Its better to trade it before the prospect loses value

Less touches, less points, cater to the other core players

Maybe, that can happen with draft picks but it didn't happen with Towns or Edwards so it is not necessarily going to happen with this pick.  I suspect they will explore trades for the pick but as I assess the team, do they really know what they have and what key piece they need to add?  If you don't know how your team fits together as it is, how do you know that the player you trade for is going to fit any better than the  player you could draft?  At this point in the draft (assumed top 3), I would take the best player available and sort it out next season when hopefully all the core players are healthy.
The most likely outcome is GSW gets the TWolves pick.  There's only a 40% chance it stays in the top 3 after the lottery for the TWolves to keep it.  The odds are the same as long as the TWolves finish bottom 3. 

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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2021, 08:54:03 AM »

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The most likely outcome is GSW gets the TWolves pick.  There's only a 40% chance it stays in the top 3 after the lottery for the TWolves to keep it.  The odds are the same as long as the TWolves finish bottom 3.

Good point.  Yes, the whole "keep the pick/trade the pick" discussion is moot if it goes to GSW.

Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2021, 10:13:47 AM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

I don't rate them.

DOA = Dead On Arrival is the phrase that is popping into my head right now.

(1) I see Towns forcing a trade and getting out of town in 12-18 months time.

(2) I don't rate D-Russell highly. I consider him a 5th/6th best player on a top team. A Lou Williams / Jamal Crawford type and frankly those guys are better than him. His defense sucks. His offense is alright but it is dependent on low percentage shot attempts which leaves him vulnerable to top defenses in a playoff setting (playoff choker alert).

(3) Not sold on Anthony Edwards. Top athlete with lower level bball skills. Years away from being anything serious in this league and that is if he ever gets there which is far from a sure thing. He is so raw and so far away from being a top player that he will have no impact on Towns staying.


Basically, the whole thing is like a House of Cards that will fall apart the minute Towns gets bored of losing all the time which will happen in the near future if he has any ambition whatsoever.

I don't look at this as a team on the rise. I look at this as a team that is on a path to nowhere and will have to start over in the near future.

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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2021, 06:01:33 AM »

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Anthony Edwards's reaction to being asked about A-Rod is gold  :police:

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The Timberwolves Rookie of the Year candidate was asked on Tuesday if he was a fan of Rodriguez's growing up. Here's what he had to say:

Edwards: "A fan? Who is he?"

Reporter: "The baseball player? Alex Rodriguez?"

Edwards: "Yeah, nah. I don't know who that is."

Reporter: "Ok."

Edwards: "I know he's fixin' to be the owner. But I don't know nothing about baseball."

https://twitter.com/DaneMooreNBA/status/1382126016102084608

Makes me feel old  :laugh:
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Re: Timberwolves sold to A-rod and Lore
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2021, 08:18:51 AM »

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The Timberwolves are an up and coming team to me.  Towns, Edwards, and Russell is a good young core and they can add a top pick to that.  This season is not representative as both Towns and Russell have been out a lot.

I think they would be dumb to trade Towns but if they did want to go complete reboot, he could returns even more good young players (like Brown for example).

I don't rate them.

DOA = Dead On Arrival is the phrase that is popping into my head right now.

(1) I see Towns forcing a trade and getting out of town in 12-18 months time.

(2) I don't rate D-Russell highly. I consider him a 5th/6th best player on a top team. A Lou Williams / Jamal Crawford type and frankly those guys are better than him. His defense sucks. His offense is alright but it is dependent on low percentage shot attempts which leaves him vulnerable to top defenses in a playoff setting (playoff choker alert).

(3) Not sold on Anthony Edwards. Top athlete with lower level bball skills. Years away from being anything serious in this league and that is if he ever gets there which is far from a sure thing. He is so raw and so far away from being a top player that he will have no impact on Towns staying.


Basically, the whole thing is like a House of Cards that will fall apart the minute Towns gets bored of losing all the time which will happen in the near future if he has any ambition whatsoever.

I don't look at this as a team on the rise. I look at this as a team that is on a path to nowhere and will have to start over in the near future.

Could be but you are really listing 3 things all pretty much worst case scenarios that all have to happen.  Towns forcing a trade is possible but with new management and what could be construed as a promising team built around good young players, why do that?  Towns is a player that compares with Embiid, Jokic, Davis, any big you want to name. 

Russell has had issues but has also been a consistent 20 ppg scorer for the last 3 seasons.  He is 25.  Not all that much different than Bradley Beal through 6 seasons.  I don't see Lou Williams, that is for sure.

And of course, Edwards may plateau but he is by far the best rookie of a pretty good draft class.  Putting up 18 pts as a 19 year old rookie without summer league or a real preseason.  And if he is doing that while being raw and without and basketball IQ, to me, that just makes him seem even more promising.  Way ahead of where Brown was for example at that age/experience.

If I was a MIL fan or if I was one of the new owners, I would feel pretty good about this team.  Yeah,  all the wheels could fall off, it happens, but I don't think that total worst case scenario is going to happen or at least no one should expect it to happen.

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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2021, 08:20:18 AM »

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Anthony Edwards's reaction to being asked about A-Rod is gold  :police:

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The Timberwolves Rookie of the Year candidate was asked on Tuesday if he was a fan of Rodriguez's growing up. Here's what he had to say:

Edwards: "A fan? Who is he?"

Reporter: "The baseball player? Alex Rodriguez?"

Edwards: "Yeah, nah. I don't know who that is."

Reporter: "Ok."

Edwards: "I know he's fixin' to be the owner. But I don't know nothing about baseball."

https://twitter.com/DaneMooreNBA/status/1382126016102084608

Makes me feel old  :laugh:

That is so funny.