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Re: Agree with Mike Gorman on Timelord and point guard?
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2021, 11:01:23 PM »

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You need your point guard to be able to score from all over; you just can't have a primary ballhandler who doesn't also create look for teammates.


The problem the Celts have is that their top point guard is no longer a deadly scorer due to his knee injury, which limits his ability to draw defenders and create open looks for others.  The second best ballhandling guard on the team, Smart, is not quick enough to regularly get by guys and draw help inside, nor is he a good enough pull up shooter to punish teams for giving him space.  He's just not a guy who can run your offense.  He is a decent secondary or tertiary ball-handler in a lineup with multiple elite scorers.

I don't agree with this. IMO the problem isn't that Kemba is a bad scorer all of the sudden (he is averaging ~18 PPG when he plays). The problem is the Celtics have no one that can consistently break down defenses, get into the paint, and then find our two superstars a handful of wide open looks per game. The guys who push the ball in transition and get into the paint on a regular basis are Tatum and Brown. We need those guys to be transition trailers half the time. Or to be able to stand around the perimeter or make back door cuts and get a few buckets each per game due to someone else's hard work.

Every possession this year is a struggle because we don't have a PG that can legit run an offense.

   Pretty sure back door cuts are against Brad’s religion or something.

Re: Agree with Mike Gorman on Timelord and point guard?
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2021, 11:57:07 PM »

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I have been calling for a playmaking point guard and an upgrade at center for 3 years now.

Sounds as if Rob Williams may be better off staying at center, but we need another center in addition to RobW with more pure talent and a guy that has some size to stand up to Embiid, Davis, Bam. Our lack of a big, strong center has been a problem since we let Baynes go. We are plain weak inside.

Danny just keeps acquiring scoring point guards rather than playmakers. That is not a good fit for this team. Frustrating to watch Danny keep banging his head against the wall trying to fit square pegs into a round hole. It's as if he has to prove himself right no matter what.

So since we had Kyrie at PG and Horford was an All-Star.  Feels like you’re difficult to please.

I said "playmaking" point guard, not a score-first, dribble the air out of the ball, wack-job that Irving is.

Horford was very good, yes, but not an elite rebounder or even really rim-protector that we need.

Hard to please ? No. I just understand basketball.

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Re: Agree with Mike Gorman on Timelord and point guard?
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2021, 12:00:15 AM »

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I have been calling for a playmaking point guard and an upgrade at center for 3 years now.

Sounds as if Rob Williams may be better off staying at center, but we need another center in addition to RobW with more pure talent and a guy that has some size to stand up to Embiid, Davis, Bam. Our lack of a big, strong center has been a problem since we let Baynes go. We are plain weak inside.

Danny just keeps acquiring scoring point guards rather than playmakers. That is not a good fit for this team. Frustrating to watch Danny keep banging his head against the wall trying to fit square pegs into a round hole. It's as if he has to prove himself right no matter what.

So since we had Kyrie at PG and Horford was an All-Star.  Feels like you’re difficult to please.

I said "playmaking" point guard, not a score-first, dribble the air out of the ball, wack-job that Irving is.

Horford was very good, yes, but not an elite rebounder or even really rim-protector that we need.

Hard to please ? No. I just understand basketball.

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Re: Agree with Mike Gorman on Timelord and point guard?
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2021, 07:53:54 PM »

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I have been calling for a playmaking point guard and an upgrade at center for 3 years now.

Sounds as if Rob Williams may be better off staying at center, but we need another center in addition to RobW with more pure talent and a guy that has some size to stand up to Embiid, Davis, Bam. Our lack of a big, strong center has been a problem since we let Baynes go. We are plain weak inside.

Danny just keeps acquiring scoring point guards rather than playmakers. That is not a good fit for this team. Frustrating to watch Danny keep banging his head against the wall trying to fit square pegs into a round hole. It's as if he has to prove himself right no matter what.

So since we had Kyrie at PG and Horford was an All-Star.  Feels like you’re difficult to please.

I said "playmaking" point guard, not a score-first, dribble the air out of the ball, wack-job that Irving is.

Horford was very good, yes, but not an elite rebounder or even really rim-protector that we need.

Hard to please ? No. I just understand basketball.

An actual genius when it comes to this game, no doubt.
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