Julius Randle over Marcus Smart Easy choice now and then

[KG Living Legend]

 Or list any other move that you would have made over Danny that you can prove from the site or another one.

 We have not had a Good young PF in a long time. He drafts 6 foot PGs every year.

 Randle is now 26. Avg 22 ppg 11 rpg 6 apg shooting .408% from three. Am I surprised no. This was easy to see coming.

 I said at the time if he gets a jumpsuit he's basically unguardable. I like smart its just so much easier to draft a defensive first guard with offensive weaknesses  anywhere in the draft.

 Guys like Randle you seldom see. Bad choice Danny.

[Rikibellevie]

You may also remain that it is his third team, a crap team until few month, and he failed to impose in LA when they refused to give him QO. What it would be in celtics ? I don't know. Would I prefer having Smart each season but this one than Randle ? Sure. What will tell stats and results next year or even this PO ? We will see.

[KG Living Legend]

You may also remain that it is his third team, a crap team until few month, and he failed to impose in LA when they refused to give him QO. What it would be in celtics ? I don't know. Would I prefer having Smart each season but this one than Randle ? Sure. What will tell stats and results next year or even this PO ? We will see.

 Smart is still here and Randle was and is the far greater talent.  If he's let go thats The teams fault.

[boscel33]

Agree 100%.  could not believe we passed on Randle, but also, couldn't believe Orlando took Gordon.  He was not being projected that high.

[cltc5]

Disagree.  At the time we needed a pg to replace rondo.  Celtics have failed to put smart in position to take the reigns.  At this point he clearly is  not the best option at pg but who knows what coulda been had Danny not got his bunny IT and drafted 30 pig’s every year.

[Neurotic Guy]

Has felt to me all year that Smart has had less of an impact.  Not sure why.   I expected him to come in v. Cleveland in the 4th and spark a momentum shift that would propel C’s to the win.  But C’s couldn’t get over the hump.   I’m a Smart fan but I’d rather have Randle. 

[KG Living Legend]

Disagree.  At the time we needed a pg to replace rondo.  Celtics have failed to put smart in position to take the reigns.  At this point he clearly is  not the best option at pg but who knows what coulda been had Danny not got his bunny IT and drafted 30 pig’s every year.

 This is funny.  Smart was never an NBA PG. Fattet PG in combine history bodyfat wise for a lottery pick.

 Handles has always been way too weak. A good passer in the pick and roll thats about it.

[cltc5]

Neither is gonna do jack for this team anyway

[nyceltsfan]

If memory serves, Randle refused to work out for Boston, which made the choice easy.  You may recall that Josh Jackson refused to work out for Boston also, and that made the Tatum choice easy. 

Ainge's best draft picks were not point guards.  Off the top of my head, the following were his best draft choices: Tatum, Brown, Marcus Smart (can be considered a PG), Rondo (definitely a PG, but obtained via trade), Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Jared Sullinger, Avery Bradley, Kelly Olynyk etc.

Not all great picks, by any means, but he does not only draft small point guards.  Also, factor in the big moments that Smart has played in and the culture that he has injected into the team, following in the footsteps of the KG teams.

Randle may be the better all around player right now, but Smart has been contributing for winning teams since he was drafted and he has played a large role.

[liam]

Has felt to me all year that Smart has had less of an impact.  Not sure why.   I expected him to come in v. Cleveland in the 4th and spark a momentum shift that would propel C’s to the win.  But C’s couldn’t get over the hump.   I’m a Smart fan but I’d rather have Randle.

Smart looks like he's hunting out the highlight plays instead of just playing solid basketball. That's why I think the team functions better with Pritchard on the floor, much more unselfish. Also Smart can't guard small quick guards. He's much better guarding bigger guards or even forwards, Smart is really strong and has excellent positioning but he's not quick enough to stay with the Try Young's of the world. Last night against the Cavs he couldn't guard either of those guards. They just kept blowing by him.

[PhoSita]

How many playoffs games has Randle helped a team win?

[Vermont Green]

I feel it is just too narrow of a perspective to look only at this season and say Smart was a bad pick.  In aggregate, I feel as though Smart has had a better overall career but right now, Randle has emerged as a more valuable player in isolation.

But think about the Lakers.  They let Randle go.  At that time, he still had not figured things out.  And I wonder if you asked the Lakers right now, would you like to add Smart or Randle to your team, I actually think Smart would help them more.

In most cases, I feel teams would view Randle as having more value (including the Celtics) but it is still close enough where that would not be the case for every team.  It is not like drafting Smart over Randle was a wild miss.

[Csfan1984]

Randle could have been had for two mediocre first this past off season so let's not pretend he is far better than Smart. Randle has never been a two way player and was only signed for such a high price because it was the Knicks. Smart and Randle both have up and down values year to year. I don't feel either guy has lived up to where they were picked regardless of who went first. I don't care much for either player. Feel their game impact is similar.

[smokeablount]

How many playoffs games has Randle helped a team win?

Why does that matter when Smart has never been a top 2 or even top 3 player on any Celtics team that won a playoff game, and he’s played in a bad Eastern Conference his whole career? In Randle’s 2 years in the East he’s averaged 21 and 10.5 on a team that this year has the same winning percentage as the Celtics, and he’s the best player on his team. Smart is maybe the 4th best Celtic.

If Smart is better than Randle, why is Smart the 4th best player on a team that isn’t any better than the team Randle is the alpha on?

[liam]

I've been a Smart guy since the draft but this year I got to give in the Randle.