Danny on 98.5 Today

[gouki88]

Danny needs to step in and fire at least half of Brad’s staff. We need some former NBA players, especially some guys who have a little fire.

I wonder what KG is up to these days....

On his way to becoming a billionaire and enjoying life. Probably not interested in becoming an assistant coach!

Yeah, doubt KG would bother. Same with McHale - both of whom I would have loved to be involved in our staff.

Would be very okay bringing in some ex-C's like Tony Allen though. A bit more grit n grind would go a long way

I'd pay KG and McHale good money to just give our bigs qualitative advice.

TimeLord with McHale's post arsenal and KG's defence and playmaking is essentially Hakeem! And I'd be alright with that

[tenn_smoothie]

I would have liked to have heard Ainge asked why Stevens does not intervene when his players do obviously detrimental things like not running any offense or not moving the ball and instead go 1-on-1 and repeatedly take bad shots.

[Moranis]

Danny needs to step in and fire at least half of Brad’s staff. We need some former NBA players, especially some guys who have a little fire.

I wonder what KG is up to these days....

On his way to becoming a billionaire and enjoying life. Probably not interested in becoming an assistant coach!

Yeah, doubt KG would bother. Same with McHale - both of whom I would have loved to be involved in our staff.

Would be very okay bringing in some ex-C's like Tony Allen though. A bit more grit n grind would go a long way

I'd pay KG and McHale good money to just give our bigs qualitative advice.

I honestly don't think KG would be that useful giving advice or as a coach.  He just doesn't strike me like the kind of guy that has a coaching mentality.  McHale, however, would be great. 

[Celtics4ever]

Anyone would be a better player coach than Evan Turner, so disengaged.

[hwangjini_1]

Danny needs to step in and fire at least half of Brad’s staff. We need some former NBA players, especially some guys who have a little fire.

I wonder what KG is up to these days....

On his way to becoming a billionaire and enjoying life. Probably not interested in becoming an assistant coach!

Yeah, doubt KG would bother. Same with McHale - both of whom I would have loved to be involved in our staff.

Would be very okay bringing in some ex-C's like Tony Allen though. A bit more grit n grind would go a long way

tony allen? a coach? he was never known for his deep thinking as a player.

Not so much there for his deep thinking. Would really only be there to keep guys accountable and give us some fire on the bench

accountable, such as the time he told his "posse" to "f*k up" some one in a bar?

https://www.espn.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/583/celtic-guard-tony-allen-s-shooting-incident

i understand your point, but differ on who should be the ex-player to do this. as mentioned elsewhere, powe would seem a better choice.

[PhoSita]

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.


Is that what you look for in a boss?  Is that what makes you do your best work?

[Jiri Welsch]

The idea that Tony Allen would be preferable to Brad Stevens because he might challenge the players to a fight or something .... that's a trip.

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.

Are you telling me you don't want a direct supervisor at your job who loses it every other time you go into the office? 

[PhoSita]

The idea that Tony Allen would be preferable to Brad Stevens because he might challenge the players to a fight or something .... that's a trip.

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.

Are you telling me you don't want a direct supervisor at your job who loses it every other time you go into the office? 

That's exactly what I was just thinking and added on to my post.


People seem to forget that NBA players are not, in fact, children, and for them being in the NBA is a career.  Yet I suspect that what we think is good in a coach is not what we'd want in our own workplace for a supervisor or leader.

Though I wouldn't want a coach like that for a youth / amatuer team, either.

[Chief]

The idea that Tony Allen would be preferable to Brad Stevens because he might challenge the players to a fight or something .... that's a trip.

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.

Are you telling me you don't want a direct supervisor at your job who loses it every other time you go into the office? 

That's exactly what I was just thinking and added on to my post.


People seem to forget that NBA players are not, in fact, children, and for them being in the NBA is a career.  Yet I suspect that what we think is good in a coach is not what we'd want in our own workplace for a supervisor or leader.

Though I wouldn't want a coach like that for a youth / amatuer team, either.

You need a player like Draymond,  KG, or MJ that sets the team's work habits and the holds players accountable.

[footey]

Brad needs to make the players accountable when they abandon his system. His system is beautiful and effective when implemented. He had this same problem in 18/19, in fact Terry Rozier of all people remarked how they would practice their sets beautifully but the moment the game kicked in they abandoned it.  That is precisely what is happening here.

For example, in the 2nd quarter of the Dallas game, Tatum dribbling the entire 24 seconds without passing once, and hoisting up a poor shot at the end of the shot clock?  Brad should have either called time out, or pulled Tatum out.  It was such a selfish, disrespectful, demoralizing play.

Raja Bell recently lamented (on Simmons podcast) how young players are more focused on their skill development with personal hoop coaches, which produces a lot of one on one skill set, but stalls the development of team play.  Tatum is exhibit a of this problem. He has been training with Drew Hanlen from a very early age, and has developed impressive skills for shot creation, but his ability to play make, or just plain integrate within a team oriented concept, especially as a lead cog, just is not developed.

I go back to our greatest need right now, which is a player who can be a coach on the floor.  A Rondo or Chris Paul type, who personally can direct and implement the offense.  I thought Smart when he returned would be the guy to step into that role, but he too has come short.  But even if he did, it takes the WHOLE TEAM, especially the LEADERS, to buy in.

[PhoSita]

Karalis on BSJ wrote something kind of on point for this:

https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2021/04/02/karalis-brad-stevens-fault-deep-dive-can/

The NBA head coach’s job might be one of the most misunderstood in sports.

People have romanticized ways of thinking of what a basketball coach is, or should be. There are visions of Gene Hackman in Hoosiers, or Bobby Knight at Indiana, or even Red Auerbach here in Boston. Maybe some people think back to their high school or college coaches.

In 2021’s NBA, the head coach is more coworker than authoritarian overlord. He is, in a sense, middle management; he’s in charge, he does the scheduling, and he runs the day-to-day show.

[Celtics2021]

Brad needs to make the players accountable when they abandon his system. His system is beautiful and effective when implemented. He had this same problem in 18/19, in fact Terry Rozier of all people remarked how they would practice their sets beautifully but the moment the game kicked in they abandoned it.  That is precisely what is happening here.

For example, in the 2nd quarter of the Dallas game, Tatum dribbling the entire 24 seconds without passing once, and hoisting up a poor shot at the end of the shot clock?  Brad should have either called time out, or pulled Tatum out.  It was such a selfish, disrespectful, demoralizing play.

Raja Bell recently lamented (on Simmons podcast) how young players are more focused on their skill development with personal hoop coaches, which produces a lot of one on one skill set, but stalls the development of team play.  Tatum is exhibit a of this problem. He has been training with Drew Hanlen from a very early age, and has developed impressive skills for shot creation, but his ability to play make, or just plain integrate within a team oriented concept, especially as a lead cog, just is not developed.

I go back to our greatest need right now, which is a player who can be a coach on the floor.  A Rondo or Chris Paul type, who personally can direct and implement the offense.  I thought Smart when he returned would be the guy to step into that role, but he too has come short.  But even if he did, it takes the WHOLE TEAM, especially the LEADERS, to buy in.

I agree with a lot of what you say.  One thing I would note that is different from 18-19 is that there are virtually no practices this season, both on account of the condensed schedule and Covid-19 protocols.  It's hard to build up those habits of passing and working as an offense when you're limited to solo or two-man drills, and the lack of continuity of who is available on a nightly basis only further exacerbates the problem.

My remaining hope for this season is that we sneak into the 6 spot (I want no part of those play-in games).  The playoff schedule is generally more spaced out, hopefully affording us some practice sessions before and between facing the same opponent multiple games in a row.  Some of our best games this season have been the second half of the two-game same-city series we've played, with an off-day in between, Milwaukee being the most recent example.  Hopefully with more preparation time like that in a playoff environment the team can unlock more of its potential.  At the same time, I also would be surprised if that were enough, as bad habits built over the course of 5 months are difficult to practice away in 1-2 weeks.  But it's the hope I'm clinging to.

[hwangjini_1]

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.


Is that what you look for in a boss?  Is that what makes you do your best work?

it seems to work in hollywood!!

 

[Moranis]

The idea that Tony Allen would be preferable to Brad Stevens because he might challenge the players to a fight or something .... that's a trip.

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.

Are you telling me you don't want a direct supervisor at your job who loses it every other time you go into the office? 

That's exactly what I was just thinking and added on to my post.


People seem to forget that NBA players are not, in fact, children, and for them being in the NBA is a career.  Yet I suspect that what we think is good in a coach is not what we'd want in our own workplace for a supervisor or leader.

Though I wouldn't want a coach like that for a youth / amatuer team, either.

You need a player like Draymond,  KG, or MJ that sets the team's work habits and the holds players accountable.

Except Draymond and KG don't really work all that well unless there is immense talent around them, and MJ didn't get the best out of anyone.  He was just so good it didn't matter.

[Celtics4ever]

It'll never stop being surprising / weird to me that people think what an NBA team needs to be more consistent and focused is to have somebody yelling at them, melting down in press conferences, shouting at the refs, etc.


Is that what you look for in a boss?  Is that what makes you do your best work?

P. J. Carlesimo learned that the way, Phosita

It is no way to treat grown men and a recipe for disaster.   Besides every player is motivated by different things.   I always liked the hard coaches that were tough personally but they rubbed other guys the wrong way.  Some guys you have to get on, others you have to encourage it is all about pushing the right buttons.  Red gave Russ a free reign but yelled all the time at Tommy for instance.